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Old 10-08-2010, 07:50 PM   #91
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Good job so far Klyde! (this is Matt btw), maybe one day we'll both have our SR twinscroll babies done!
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build is looking GREAT!!!!!

are you using hard tube adapters for the fuel line? or tube nut and tube sleeve?
Yeah I got the hard line adapters from Earls. This setup should be good enough for now. I'll upgrade the whole fuel system later on!

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You got -4 for your clutch line? Too big. You need -3AN.
I know it's supposed to be a -3 like the brake lines are. I figured I'd get the -4 instead. It'll just take more fluid.
Did you get my pm for the brake lines?
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Yeah I got the hard line adapters from Earls. This setup should be good enough for now. I'll upgrade the whole fuel system later on!
you MAY run into a problem. im assuming the earls fitting is a -6AN to 3/8ths hard line. if that is the case you should run all new 3/8ths hard line to the tank. the stock line is closer to 5/16ths.
I ended up using a -5AN tube nut and sleeve, then a -5 to -6AN fitting for mine.....

in anycase GREAT BUILD!!
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you MAY run into a problem. im assuming the earls fitting is a -6AN to 3/8ths hard line. if that is the case you should run all new 3/8ths hard line to the tank. the stock line is closer to 5/16ths.
I ended up using a -5AN tube nut and sleeve, then a -5 to -6AN fitting for mine.....

in anycase GREAT BUILD!!
Actually I got the 5/16 to a -6 AN adapters. I measured the lines before hand so I don't run into any issues later. Thanks for the heads up though, I should be done with the fuel, clutch, and brake lines by next week, my next step is the power steering lines, cooler, and I/C pipes!

I'll take pics for the updates!
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I know it's supposed to be a -3 like the brake lines are. I figured I'd get the -4 instead. It'll just take more fluid.
Did you get my pm for the brake lines?
Yeah I am about to call you.

The -4AN as your clutch line isn't about the fluid volume, the pedal is going to feel a lot worse. Its going to feel, for lack of better words "mushy" hah
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Thanks for all the props guys!
Got some updates on the build!
For my brake lines: I got some of Chase Bays relocated stainless braided -3 lines on the way. Big Thanks to Chase Bays for hookin' it up! I'll have those slapped on as soon as they arrive and I'll have some nice pics of the install!!!
I got my -4 clutch line installed from cylinder to slave, I know it's bigger than the stock -3 line and if the pedal feels sluggish at all I'll have to replace it again with a -3! We'll see how it goes!



Here's the fuel return line installed with the hard line AN adapters and Prolite hose and fittings from Earl's. I'm still waiting on my AN filter for the feed side!





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I was thinking of moving the fuel return fitting back a few inches! I made the Prolite hose long to give it slack to accommodate the motor's torque play. Now that I'm looking at it I think it needs to move back more! I'll have pics up soon.

Also, I should have my custom throttle cable bracket and radiator brackets completed soon!

I'd like to have it ready for my tuner Koji by the end of this week!

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AMAZING BUILD!!!! Both motor and fabrication alike.

I REALLLY like the Leguna Seca Blue, it looks like it damn near blinds you in the sunlight. lol

Just out of Curiosity though, seeing as you striped it all down, already had a welder out, and had covered up some holes. Why didn't you just weld some Tubs in there to give it an even more Smooth look, and why didn't you just go ahead and weld up all the other little misc. 1/4" holes that were there from the Relay boxes and such?

Just Wondering though.
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nice...great to see that waynes motor will be put to use!
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What fuel pump are you going to use? Also, do you plan on running this setup on E85? I can't wait for this build to be done.
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AMAZING BUILD!!!! Both motor and fabrication alike.

I REALLLY like the Leguna Seca Blue, it looks like it damn near blinds you in the sunlight. lol

Just out of Curiosity though, seeing as you striped it all down, already had a welder out, and had covered up some holes. Why didn't you just weld some Tubs in there to give it an even more Smooth look, and why didn't you just go ahead and weld up all the other little misc. 1/4" holes that were there from the Relay boxes and such?

Just Wondering though.
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To answer your question and everyone's curiosity as well.
*Need: I really didn't see the need for tubs!
*Impatience: tired of having the built motor sit for so long and want it running soon!
*Budget: I want the car to be done right, full cage and paint inside and out! But my budget is tight and I can't wait any longer. lol.
*Scared: Some tubs I've seen look great and others horrible. I guess I'd rather have stock tubs over a nightmare job!
*Space: I did everything in an open space so far and if I had an enclosed garage I know I would've been more meticulous and I wouldn't feel so rushed.
*Regret: I'd hate to mess with the engine bay later on if rubbing issues arise, but I can always have it resprayed with the cage and the rest of the car if I have to. Oh well!
For the time being I can enjoy my dream motor for a bit instead of looking at it every day as it sits and waits!


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nice...great to see that waynes motor will be put to use!
Yeah he definitely had big plans for it as a drag motor! Hopefully it will last much longer with my setup. Wayne has been a big help with my build. He hooks up with the best prices on parts. I owe him a big thanks and I know getting this motor fired up will put a smile on his face still!
Hit up phase2 for your parts! Wayne comes thru every time for me!

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What fuel pump are you going to use? Also, do you plan on running this setup on E85? I can't wait for this build to be done.
With budget in mind, I'll be running a dual Walbro in tank! Should be enough for now! My original plan was to do E85, but availability in Ca. is small still and not worth the 30+ mile trip for every fill. Then there's the fuel setup factor that E85 demands, whole new system from tank to injectors consisting of bigger lines, big pumps, and Teflon layered hoses. It also burns a lot quicker than gasoline!
I figure if I can achieve a quick responding motor with a broad power band on pump gas with a boost range of 17 to 22 psi and putting down over 500rwhp, then I'm good for now.

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I swear those close up engine bay pics make that blue pop!
Yeah it sure does, seems like a whole different blue in the light!

Here are some small updates:
I was bored out of my mind so I made this bottle into my coolant reservoir tank. It should do the job just fine!





Here's my old oil catch can that I'll be running on the new motor setup, Thanks Yonathon! I am converting the fittings to AN later on, but for now it'll just be hoses.



I almost drilled some holes in the firewall to have it mounted before realizing this perfect spot for it on the passenger tower. I used the factory holes which matched the threads on my catch tank. Not bad!!!








More updates coming soon!
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I love love love that blue. So good, and I usually hate blue so that says alot.

Are you going to paint your valve cover?
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I love love love that blue. So good, and I usually hate blue so that says alot.

Are you going to paint your valve cover?
Thanks man! Yes I'll be painting the valve cover, but not sure on the color or if it'll be this v.c. after it's welded shut or another one!

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Are you on a 3071R or 3076R?
It's a 3076R with a 0.82 A/R twin scroll turbine housing.
I figured the 3071R is too small for high end and the 35R is a bit too big and laggy!
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I hope you have a tube going to the bottom of the 'coolant tank.'
It does need to suck fluid back into the system when the engine cools off.
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*Need: I really didn't see the need for tubs!
ya there's no need to tub unless it's a drift car.
spend the time and money on the right things 1st time around.
oh I didn't know that's wayne's old motor, it was at gdimension for
the longest time.
BTW cut and weld the coolant return pipe on the motor to make it larger
like this.
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It's a 3076R with a 0.82 A/R twin scroll turbine housing.
I figured the 3071R is too small for high end and the 35R is a bit too big and laggy![/QUOTE]

thats weird,i didnt know they made that a/r for twin scroll...whos the exhaust housing made by??also that backside is actually really small to make 500 @20lbs on pump..is this a t3 or t4 twinscroll?when configuring a/r on twinscroll its very misleading as the runners are divided so you actually only have about 60% of what a normal a/r would be.sorta like a .82 t/s housing would be equal to a .43 a/r open mouth hotside...im interested to see if it gets choked out up top...goodluck homie,its a very nice setup!!should make for an unbelievable street car!!make sure to post up dyno's please!!
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I hope you have a tube going to the bottom of the 'coolant tank.'
It does need to suck fluid back into the system when the engine cools off.
You would hope that I know how a coolant reservoir works right! Haha! Thanks for the heads up man, but yeah I'll have a hose coming off the gold barb fitting to the bottom of the can.
Here's a pic of the back side of the cap.


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ya there's no need to tub unless it's a drift car.
spend the time and money on the right things 1st time around.
oh I didn't know that's wayne's old motor, it was at gdimension for
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BTW cut and weld the coolant return pipe on the motor to make it larger
like this.
Yeah it was with James @ G-D for a minute and Part of the reason why I don't want it sitting around much longer!
I see your point on the water neck modification but is it really necessary?
When you look at the stock neck it does get flatter right under the CAS but wider at the same time to compensate for the fluid volume.

Here are some updates from today. My buddy Matt came thru with these brackets for the throttle cable and some aluminum radiator brackets up top. He did these without having the car there to work with so I will be modifying them tomorrow to make 'em sit better and look cleaner!

Throttle cable bracket: (I'll raise up higher so it sits closer to T/B)




Radiator brackets: (I'll round off the edges to give it a smooth profile)


I can't figure out where to place the reservoir tank but I'm guessing right next to the radiator would be nice!
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thats weird,i didnt know they made that a/r for twin scroll...whos the exhaust housing made by??also that backside is actually really small to make 500 @20lbs on pump..is this a t3 or t4 twinscroll?when configuring a/r on twinscroll its very misleading as the runners are divided so you actually only have about 60% of what a normal a/r would be.sorta like a .82 t/s housing would be equal to a .43 a/r open mouth hotside...im interested to see if it gets choked out up top...goodluck homie,its a very nice setup!!should make for an unbelievable street car!!make sure to post up dyno's please!![/QUOTE]


Yeah twin scroll housings used to come in a 0.78 A/R housing option only but over the last year now they've added the 0.63, 0.82, and the 1.06 A/R options for both T3 and T4 flanged Garrett GT family turbos.
I ordered my whole turbo kit from Full Race so I'm not sure who makes those housings for these, I'm guessing it's from ATP!!!

My friend's 2.2L SR20 on a 3076R twin scroll single waste gate setup on pump gas 21 psi made over 500rwhp on dynapack! I'm sure my 2.4L full built stroker block will hit the 500 mark on pump.

I trust my tuner Koji to do a reliable tune while achieving the most hp and torque at the same time, sure you can mess with timing and fuel to achieve higher hp on the dyno but it's not good in the long run. As long as the power band curve is good I'm happy!

We'll have to wait till dyno day! I'll have videos and detailed charts to post!
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thats weird,i didnt know they made that a/r for twin scroll...whos the exhaust housing made by??also that backside is actually really small to make 500 @20lbs on pump..is this a t3 or t4 twinscroll?when configuring a/r on twinscroll its very misleading as the runners are divided so you actually only have about 60% of what a normal a/r would be.sorta like a .82 t/s housing would be equal to a .43 a/r open mouth hotside...im interested to see if it gets choked out up top...goodluck homie,its a very nice setup!!should make for an unbelievable street car!!make sure to post up dyno's please!!

Yeah twin scroll housings used to come in a 0.78 A/R housing option only but over the last year now they've added the 0.63, 0.82, and the 1.06 A/R options for both T3 and T4 flanged Garrett GT family turbos.
I ordered my whole turbo kit from Full Race so I'm not sure who makes those housings for these, I'm guessing it's from ATP!!!

My friend's 2.2L SR20 on a 3076R twin scroll single waste gate setup on pump gas 21 psi made over 500rwhp on dynapack! I'm sure my 2.4L full built stroker block will hit the 500 mark on pump.

I trust my tuner Koji to do a reliable tune while achieving the most hp and torque at the same time, sure you can mess with timing and fuel to achieve higher hp on the dyno but it's not good in the long run. As long as the power band curve is good I'm happy!

We'll have to wait till dyno day! I'll have videos and detailed charts to post![/QUOTE]

huh,cool man..wow,thats sick that your buddy made that kinda power,and on a dynopak WTF!!!it makes ma more optomistic for my pumpgas goals.im 2.2 fully built ve head with ve pistons with full race t4 t/s 6262.im hoping i can get close to 550 on pump.i really admire the attention to detail in getting it right the first time around.ive been messing with this setup for about a year and a half,anf hoping to have it on the road by december.ill be watching this thread closely.goodluck with all aspects of it!!and try not to get depressed about the money your spending on it like myself..lol..
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:14 AM   #118
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Keep up the good work you'll finish eventually. I'm not even done with the car yet.
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Is this going to be a dedicated track car?, or are you going to register it and actually drive it on the street every now and then?
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:00 PM   #120
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Keep up the good work you'll finish eventually. I'm not even done with the car yet.
Thanks! I haven't been in my 240 for over a year now! I can't take it anymore! lol.

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Is this going to be a dedicated track car?, or are you going to register it and actually drive it on the street every now and then?
It's already registered and will be street driven every now and then or maybe even more than that! But track days will be fun!

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