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dorkjoey240 · 12-12-2006, 10:19 PM

I have 240sx 91 fastback with SR20DE um...is there way u do a 400 n/a sr20de?

!Zar! · 12-12-2006, 10:36 PM

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dorkjoey240 · 12-12-2006, 10:40 PM

ok thanks.

KA-T_240 · 12-12-2006, 10:42 PM

LOL. go KA-T

ZAR, i love that sig.

kY.gordon · 12-12-2006, 10:44 PM

sprinkle a little bit of fairy dust in your engine and you might get lucky!!

dorkjoey240 · 12-12-2006, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kY.gordon

sprinkle a little bit of fairy dust in your engine and you might get lucky!!

I will try if not then I will just go turbo.

McRussellPants · 12-12-2006, 11:18 PM

Iunno, is there a way to sell a T25 for 650$?

http://www.houston240sx.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=17610

I put diamonds in my turbo, shits baller to me.

juice.def · 12-13-2006, 01:10 AM

your fired...

KA24DESOneThree · 12-13-2006, 01:33 AM

So are you for failing to learn how to make contractions.

Making the thread title "I have a serious question?" really showed how idiotic the first post was going to be.

Locktown.

chmercer · 12-13-2006, 01:38 AM

hes probably ESL, *shrug*

Koopa Troopa · 12-13-2006, 01:50 AM

SR20DE is a badass motor! Tons of torque for a 2L N/A! Put that compression up to 11:1, get some ITB's and have some N/A fun.

!Zar! · 12-13-2006, 02:17 AM

Yeah, while we are at it, lets go further back.

sr16de!

na is stupid to a point.

If you have the money, it's great.

If you don't, then it will be slow as hell.

cost vs cost

FI > NA

You want to build a na motor, start with a ka. Sell that sr.

Both ways, you still can't even hit 200hp.

Koopa Troopa · 12-13-2006, 02:21 AM

Dude, there's people on Okinawa who have build 240 whp N/A 4ag's. Keep the ignorance up. Rock the SR20DE dude!

!Zar! · 12-13-2006, 02:38 AM

Why the fuck are you talking about a 4age when we are clearly talking about a sr.

No shit you could get more power out. You'd be amazed what can be accomplished with a bucket of money.

But since you want to talk about more thinks you know little about, for the amount of money it would cost to build a 4age, it would be wise to put a 4agze in.

But, lets continue with your stupidity.

That car would drive like shit below 6k~rpms due to the cams it would be running. There would be no stock parts left. Everything from the crank, to the header would need to be changed.

Don't even think about driving one of those down to the grocery store.

Koopa Troopa · 12-13-2006, 02:44 AM

You're missing the point. You're trying to say N/A is worthless and turbo is the way to go. Who cares about the cams? Suck it up and drive..

!Zar! · 12-13-2006, 02:51 AM

I never mentioned the word turbo.

Maby since you lack the comprehension skills to notice that I said cost vs cost.

For the price it would cost him to build a na car that would drive like shit unless it was constantly revving high isn't worth it.

Forced induction is the way to go.

Don't play dumb.

TAMTANIUM · 12-13-2006, 02:59 AM

eh..I'll charm in with some of my opinions.

If you want to make an SR20de to produce 400hp you will need to spend a lot of money. It's possible..no doubt. Recently i heard that Hasselgreen just built a 300hp toyota 20valve engine. which is insane for something like that. I think SR20de have more potential and a better chance to make 400hp. If you run nitrous setup..i think you can reach 400hp goal a little faster. It's up to you. If you have the passion and money for the project..then go for it. If not..sorry just shoot the dream of having 400hp na sr down.

*Sil-Abc* · 12-13-2006, 03:24 AM

sure u can have a 400 n/a SR. since u have that much money to do it, wanna share the love?

ViZion Zs · 12-13-2006, 03:55 AM

it is possible to get close to that ive seen them in opt mags,, it takes huge cams, 2.2 stroker ITBS high rise header.. pistons, rods,, and you might make mid 300s......not to mention tons of machine work and tuning...

airsoft · 12-13-2006, 05:00 AM

but we zilvians are very poor...

s13silady · 12-13-2006, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAMTANIUM

eh..I'll charm in with some of my opinions.

If you want to make an SR20de to produce 400hp you will need to spend a lot of money. It's possible..no doubt. Recently i heard that Hasselgreen just built a 300hp toyota 20valve engine. which is insane for something like that. I think SR20de have more potential and a better chance to make 400hp. If you run nitrous setup..i think you can reach 400hp goal a little faster. It's up to you. If you have the passion and money for the project..then go for it. If not..sorry just shoot the dream of having 400hp na sr down.

if he runs nitrous, the that would be force induction anyways... (not being a dick)

as far as a N/A sr. Zar is totally correct on this. imagine all the money you would spend trying to produce 400hp out of a SRde. when you can produce the same hp output with a lot less than what your going to spend in the long run. but hey. if you believe you can reach 400hp out of an NA sr, then by all means go for it. to each his own.. but cost vs cost. FI is going to win. especially if you wants powerzzzzzz...you would just turn your car into an even BIGGER money pit than it already is.

Gnnr · 12-13-2006, 11:19 AM

Nissan did 300hp NA in one of their Touring Cars, but I doubt you have the budget of a race team.

http://www.se-r.net/multimedia/pictu...r20/index.html

wootwoot · 12-13-2006, 11:26 AM

Nitrous is not forced induction silly.

*moderator snip*

s13silady · 12-13-2006, 11:35 AM

just clarifying... that question ^^^ was for the original poster right?

dorkjoey240 · 12-13-2006, 11:50 AM

thanks guys , uh I guess I will go turbo. well...I guess I'll stop being stupid go with turbo. Nitrous, I don't want to hurt the engine at all.

*MELLO*SOS* · 12-13-2006, 12:44 PM

Nitrous and Turbo can both hurt the engine if they're not tuned properly.

Maybe you should put the power-adders on the back burner until the rest of the car is ready to handle more power... Have you upgraded suspension, brakes, LSD?

LB.Motoring · 12-13-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViZion Zs

it is possible to get close to that ive seen them in opt mags,, it takes huge cams, 2.2 stroker ITBS high rise header.. pistons, rods,, and you might make mid 300s......not to mention tons of machine work and tuning...

hha yah you got it, just add.

harlockssx · 12-13-2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkjoey240

thanks guys , uh I guess I will go turbo. well...I guess I'll stop being stupid go with turbo. Nitrous, I don't want to hurt the engine at all.

You need the same things to run a turbo effectively that you would to run nitrous...good engine management, stronger pistons/reduced compression (recommended), colder range plugs, free flowing exhaust, sufficient fuel flow, etc. Sure, you can put it on a stock motor & it might last awhile, but eventually it will take it's toll...BUT, don't knock it's BANG (no pun intended) for the buck...nothing out there is as cheap/easy to boost your power, while still retaining stock driveablility.

smelly240 · 12-13-2006, 01:27 PM

the sr20de that they ran in the touring car primeras is way diff than the one he has - LOL

i have a wallpaper of it somewhere - its got a really cool valve cover -

wootwoot · 12-14-2006, 10:27 AM

I was neg repped for saying nitrous is not forced induction. Is air under pressure forced into the combustion chamber? I guess you could consider it so as it oxides the air but thats still stupid.

12-12-2006, 10:19 PM	#1
dorkjoey240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 1,042 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I have serious question? I have 240sx 91 fastback with SR20DE um...is there way u do a 400 n/a sr20de?

12-12-2006, 10:36 PM	#2
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. . No. __________________

12-13-2006, 01:10 AM	#8
juice.def Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Califoolya Age: 36 Posts: 456 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	your fired... __________________

12-13-2006, 01:50 AM	#11
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	SR20DE is a badass motor! Tons of torque for a 2L N/A! Put that compression up to 11:1, get some ITB's and have some N/A fun. __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

12-13-2006, 02:17 AM	#12
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Yeah, while we are at it, lets go further back. sr16de! na is stupid to a point. If you have the money, it's great. If you don't, then it will be slow as hell. cost vs cost FI > NA You want to build a na motor, start with a ka. Sell that sr. Both ways, you still can't even hit 200hp. __________________

12-12-2006, 10:40 PM	#3
dorkjoey240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 1,042 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	ok thanks.

12-12-2006, 10:42 PM	#4
KA-T_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 36 Posts: 1,788 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LOL. go KA-T ZAR, i love that sig.

12-12-2006, 10:44 PM	#5
kY.gordon Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bay Area SF Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sprinkle a little bit of fairy dust in your engine and you might get lucky!!

12-12-2006, 11:18 PM	#7
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Iunno, is there a way to sell a T25 for 650$? http://www.houston240sx.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=17610 I put diamonds in my turbo, shits baller to me.

12-13-2006, 01:33 AM	#9
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 38 Posts: 2,554 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	So are you for failing to learn how to make contractions. Making the thread title "I have a serious question?" really showed how idiotic the first post was going to be. Locktown.

12-13-2006, 01:38 AM	#10
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 38 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hes probably ESL, shrug

12-13-2006, 02:21 AM	#13
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Dude, there's people on Okinawa who have build 240 whp N/A 4ag's. Keep the ignorance up. Rock the SR20DE dude! __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

12-13-2006, 02:38 AM	#14
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Why the fuck are you talking about a 4age when we are clearly talking about a sr. No shit you could get more power out. You'd be amazed what can be accomplished with a bucket of money. But since you want to talk about more thinks you know little about, for the amount of money it would cost to build a 4age, it would be wise to put a 4agze in. But, lets continue with your stupidity. That car would drive like shit below 6k~rpms due to the cams it would be running. There would be no stock parts left. Everything from the crank, to the header would need to be changed. Don't even think about driving one of those down to the grocery store. __________________

12-13-2006, 02:44 AM	#15
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	You're missing the point. You're trying to say N/A is worthless and turbo is the way to go. Who cares about the cams? Suck it up and drive.. __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

12-13-2006, 02:51 AM	#16
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I never mentioned the word turbo. Maby since you lack the comprehension skills to notice that I said cost vs cost. For the price it would cost him to build a na car that would drive like shit unless it was constantly revving high isn't worth it. Forced induction is the way to go. Don't play dumb. __________________

12-13-2006, 02:59 AM	#17
TAMTANIUM Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Socal. wc Age: 37 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	eh..I'll charm in with some of my opinions. If you want to make an SR20de to produce 400hp you will need to spend a lot of money. It's possible..no doubt. Recently i heard that Hasselgreen just built a 300hp toyota 20valve engine. which is insane for something like that. I think SR20de have more potential and a better chance to make 400hp. If you run nitrous setup..i think you can reach 400hp goal a little faster. It's up to you. If you have the passion and money for the project..then go for it. If not..sorry just shoot the dream of having 400hp na sr down.

12-13-2006, 03:24 AM	#18
Sil-Abc Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Downtown LA Age: 38 Posts: 2,549 Trader Rating: (13) Rides Gallery: Sil-Abc Feedback Score: 13 reviews	sure u can have a 400 n/a SR. since u have that much money to do it, wanna share the love? __________________ IM JON WAYNE ESQ.... bitch

12-13-2006, 03:55 AM	#19
ViZion Zs Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Orange co Age: 45 Posts: 328 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it is possible to get close to that ive seen them in opt mags,, it takes huge cams, 2.2 stroker ITBS high rise header.. pistons, rods,, and you might make mid 300s......not to mention tons of machine work and tuning...

12-13-2006, 05:00 AM	#20
airsoft Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,231 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	but we zilvians are very poor...

12-13-2006, 11:19 AM	#22
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nissan did 300hp NA in one of their Touring Cars, but I doubt you have the budget of a race team. http://www.se-r.net/multimedia/pictu...r20/index.html __________________

12-13-2006, 11:26 AM	#23
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 38 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nitrous is not forced induction silly. moderator snip __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you Last edited by Phlip; 12-13-2006 at 12:53 PM.. Reason: knock it off

12-13-2006, 11:35 AM	#24
s13silady Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bay Area, San Jose Posts: 1,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just clarifying... that question ^^^ was for the original poster right? __________________

12-13-2006, 11:50 AM	#25
dorkjoey240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 1,042 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	thanks guys , uh I guess I will go turbo. well...I guess I'll stop being stupid go with turbo. Nitrous, I don't want to hurt the engine at all.

12-13-2006, 12:44 PM	#26
MELLOSOS* LAID OUT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Age: 42 Posts: 2,015 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MELLO*SOS Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nitrous and Turbo can both hurt the engine if they're not tuned properly. Maybe you should put the power-adders on the back burner until the rest of the car is ready to handle more power... Have you upgraded suspension, brakes, LSD?

12-13-2006, 01:27 PM	#29
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 46 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	the sr20de that they ran in the touring car primeras is way diff than the one he has - LOL i have a wallpaper of it somewhere - its got a really cool valve cover -

12-14-2006, 10:27 AM	#30
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 38 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was neg repped for saying nitrous is not forced induction. Is air under pressure forced into the combustion chamber? I guess you could consider it so as it oxides the air but thats still stupid. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you