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youknowho · 11-04-2011, 12:36 PM

Hi all,

I'm changing the stock wheels and suspension on my DD S13 hatch and have decided to get Enkei RP-03s and Godspeed coilovers. For the wheels I'm looking at 17x8 +40, and the closest example I found on RimTuck is this:

RIMTUCK.com - Setup

The uploader of that setup says he put it on there as an example of "what NOT to do"... why? Granted it's not slammed with negative camber, rolled/pulled fenders, and spacers (none of which I want to do on this daily driver). Flushness looks alright. What do you think of this setup?

90white240 · 11-04-2011, 12:39 PM

Tis be a tad Ghey..... But then agian personal Prefrence.

youknowho · 11-04-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 90white240

Tis be a tad Ghey..... But then agian personal Prefrence.

Why exactly?

Martino · 11-04-2011, 12:49 PM

Because he has giant sidewall'd tires, tons of fender gap and skinny ass wheels.

Oh and they look ghey.

N2HIFI · 11-04-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Martino

Because he has giant sidewall'd tires, tons of fender gap and skinny ass wheels.

Oh and they look ghey.

sounds legit to me

and for why:
most people appreciate a stance that is visually appealing vs stock fitment, plus honestly a car with a wider track tends to drive better and be more responsive to steering input.

biggie · 11-04-2011, 01:10 PM

Since I'm old I'll give another view point. I don't think it would be too bad. But +40 on 8" wheel may be close to hitting the coilovers.

For something in between "toiletflush" and "sunken battleship" look for +25 or so offset. Or get 10, 15, or 20mm spacer on the +40 wheels.

nismoracingsx · 11-04-2011, 01:19 PM

the 16x8+20's on my wife's coupe look decent, yet the fitment was not too aggressive.

why not grab the 17x8.5+30 in that wheel you like?? That way you can either just bolt them on as they come, or slap on a 15mm(10mm?) spacer for a more flush look.

Good luck.

Darren · 11-04-2011, 01:24 PM

What looks good to YOU...

That's all that's important man...

Martino · 11-04-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nismoracingsx

the 16x8+20's on my wife's coupe look decent, yet the fitment was not too aggressive.

why not grab the 17x8.5+30 in that wheel you like?? That way you can either just bolt them on as they come, or slap on a 15mm(10mm?) spacer for a more flush look.

Good luck.

Take into consideration the rear view of an S13. Skinny wheels make everything look funny. Just because you can slap a spacer on doesn't mean JUST being flush will look just as good.

Also, judging by his knowledge on the pic and not knowing what's wrong he probably won't be going low enough not to truely see the rear tires from behind.

*ManoNegra* · 11-04-2011, 01:36 PM

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s13 What is wrong with this setup?

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Godspeed coilovers

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"what NOT to do"

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What do you think of this setup?

hmmm.... can't think of anything

cotbu · 11-04-2011, 02:10 PM

When you don't care about wheel fitment, you have way more wheel choices!

badbob2121 · 11-04-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cotbu

When you don't care about wheel fitment, you have way more wheel choices!

i wish i had a positive outlook like you..

Bushido · 11-04-2011, 03:22 PM

That fitment would have been pretty nice for 1998

youknowho · 11-04-2011, 03:32 PM

Ha I knew the Godspeed coilovers would get a comment eventually. ManoNegra have you actually driven on them?

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Originally Posted by nismoracingsx

the 16x8+20's on my wife's coupe look decent, yet the fitment was not too aggressive.

why not grab the 17x8.5+30 in that wheel you like?? That way you can either just bolt them on as they come, or slap on a 15mm(10mm?) spacer for a more flush look.

Good luck.

I'm thinking about that size too. I'm after the widest wheels I can get without rubbing the coilovers and having to resort to fender mods. Will 8.5" +30 clear both front and back?

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What looks good to YOU...

That's all that's important man...

I completely agree and was curious to hear others' main gripes with that setup. I don't think this is a matter of "knowledge" since everyone has an opinion on good appearance.

Thanks for the replies.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 11-04-2011, 04:01 PM

8J +40...sell your car and get an accord.

K_style · 11-04-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

8J +40...sell your car and get an accord.

I was thinking the same thing..

95KA-Turbo · 11-04-2011, 04:10 PM

A 9 +25 will fit up front without hitting your coilovers. A higher offset then that will hit.

An 8 +40 will have 2mm less inner clearance.

R33 GTR wheels are probably the best stock/non aggressive fitment wheels out there. They are 17X9 +30, so you'd need to run a 5mm spacer up front and you'll need to roll your fenders.

slydin240sx · 11-04-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

8J +40...sell your car and get an accord.

Werd

msglenth

JdmDrift4Food · 11-04-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

8J +40...sell your car and get an accord.

Agreed. If you want a "dd" that you can throw ugly ass wheels on with horrible sizes and wheel gap.. Get an accord.

BUT everyones intitled to their own opinions, and its whatever you think looks nice. People will give you shit no matter what you drive or do to your car.

2.5T_/<ouki · 11-04-2011, 05:26 PM

Godspeed coilovers >.<

XxHybridx · 11-04-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Martino

Because he has giant sidewall'd tires, tons of fender gap and skinny ass wheels.

Oh and they look ghey.

that.

and the "flushness" is nowhere being alright -.-;

all comes to taste. u either like it or u dont.

youknowho · 11-04-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

A 9 +25 will fit up front without hitting your coilovers. A higher offset then that will hit.

An 8 +40 will have 2mm less inner clearance.

R33 GTR wheels are probably the best stock/non aggressive fitment wheels out there. They are 17X9 +30, so you'd need to run a 5mm spacer up front and you'll need to roll your fenders.

Good to know, thanks. To be clear, I don't want a lot of fender gap (that's why I'm getting coilovers) or big tires. I asked what is wrong with the rimtuck setup for opinions on the wheel size and fitment.

I want as aggressive a wheel width and stance as I can get without fender mods and definitely without negative camber - that makes zero sense for a daily driver.

usdm180sx · 11-04-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

A 9 +25 will fit up front without hitting your coilovers. A higher offset then that will hit.

An 8 +40 will have 2mm less inner clearance.

R33 GTR wheels are probably the best stock/non aggressive fitment wheels out there. They are 17X9 +30, so you'd need to run a 5mm spacer up front and you'll need to roll your fenders.

A 9 +25 will hit the coilovers. You need at least a +20 or less and that will still hit some coilovers depending on the brand. I have 9 +16 and have a 1/4" clearance with kei offoce coilovers.

With an r33 gt-r wheel you will need at least a 10mm spacer to clear the coilovers.

*ManoNegra* · 11-04-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by youknowho

ManoNegra have you actually driven on them?
.

rhetorical question?

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Originally Posted by youknowho

I want as aggressive a wheel width and stance as I can get without fender mods and definitely without negative camber - that makes zero sense for a daily driver.

what?
you know that -2 front and -1.5 rear is considered the conservative-performance-minded camber set up for 240s right?

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Originally Posted by usdm180sx

A 9 +25 will hit the coilovers. You need at least a +20 or less and that will still hit some coilovers depending on the brand. I have 9 +16 and have a 1/4" clearance with kei offoce coilovers.

With an r33 gt-r wheel you will need at least a 10mm spacer to clear the coilovers.

really depends on coilover bracket but that's about right

JdmDrift4Food · 11-04-2011, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youknowho

I want as aggressive a wheel width and stance as I can get without fender mods and definitely without negative camber - that makes zero sense for a daily driver.

LOL!

idahotuner · 11-05-2011, 02:52 AM

FWD offset, too tall of sidewall........ yada yada yada

brewster240 · 11-05-2011, 07:43 AM

if youre gonna put on terrible parts, why not save you money and just leave it stock?

allntrlundrgrnd · 11-05-2011, 07:59 AM

9+15 is perfect size for a not so aggressive fitment without modifications besides a minor roll. +40 Offset is honda territory.

Reference: Old car. think the front had a 5mm spacer. (Black car)

Yes, daily driven.

Driftbandit · 11-06-2011, 01:48 AM

Keep the rims stock, and for gods sake buy coilovers made in any other country but China!

280zx2by2 · 11-06-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Driftbandit

Keep the rims stock, and for gods sake buy coilovers made in any other country but China!

Most of all coilovers are made in china, a few are assembled in Japan.

Put your trust in R&D, not whether or not a monkey can correctly put together something repetitively and sell it for cheap.

11-04-2011, 12:36 PM	#1
youknowho Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: CA Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What is wrong with this setup? Hi all, I'm changing the stock wheels and suspension on my DD S13 hatch and have decided to get Enkei RP-03s and Godspeed coilovers. For the wheels I'm looking at 17x8 +40, and the closest example I found on RimTuck is this: RIMTUCK.com - Setup The uploader of that setup says he put it on there as an example of "what NOT to do"... why? Granted it's not slammed with negative camber, rolled/pulled fenders, and spacers (none of which I want to do on this daily driver). Flushness looks alright. What do you think of this setup?

11-04-2011, 12:39 PM	#2
90white240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ghettolanto!!!!! Posts: 874 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Tis be a tad Ghey..... But then agian personal Prefrence. __________________

11-04-2011, 12:49 PM	#4
Martino Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Because he has giant sidewall'd tires, tons of fender gap and skinny ass wheels. Oh and they look ghey. __________________ IG: @vsMARTINO

11-04-2011, 01:10 PM	#6
biggie Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Winston Salem, NC Age: 46 Posts: 484 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Since I'm old I'll give another view point. I don't think it would be too bad. But +40 on 8" wheel may be close to hitting the coilovers. For something in between "toiletflush" and "sunken battleship" look for +25 or so offset. Or get 10, 15, or 20mm spacer on the +40 wheels. __________________ '11 M56S '12 QX56 (wife's)

11-04-2011, 01:19 PM	#7
nismoracingsx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alachua, FL Age: 37 Posts: 969 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	the 16x8+20's on my wife's coupe look decent, yet the fitment was not too aggressive. why not grab the 17x8.5+30 in that wheel you like?? That way you can either just bolt them on as they come, or slap on a 15mm(10mm?) spacer for a more flush look. Good luck. __________________

11-04-2011, 01:24 PM	#8
Darren Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: kelowna, bc, canada Age: 48 Posts: 680 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What looks good to YOU... That's all that's important man...

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cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 49 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	When you don't care about wheel fitment, you have way more wheel choices! __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

11-04-2011, 03:22 PM	#13
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,563 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	That fitment would have been pretty nice for 1998 __________________

11-04-2011, 04:01 PM	#15
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	8J +40...sell your car and get an accord. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

11-04-2011, 04:10 PM	#17
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	A 9 +25 will fit up front without hitting your coilovers. A higher offset then that will hit. An 8 +40 will have 2mm less inner clearance. R33 GTR wheels are probably the best stock/non aggressive fitment wheels out there. They are 17X9 +30, so you'd need to run a 5mm spacer up front and you'll need to roll your fenders. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

11-04-2011, 05:26 PM	#20
2.5T_/<ouki Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,150 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Godspeed coilovers >.<

11-05-2011, 02:52 AM	#26
idahotuner Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St. Maries, Idaho Age: 35 Posts: 1,276 Trader Rating: (17) Rides Gallery: idahotuner Feedback Score: 17 reviews	FWD offset, too tall of sidewall........ yada yada yada __________________ My Twin Scroll Gt30r Sr22det Build

11-05-2011, 07:43 AM	#27
brewster240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: tampa bay, fl Age: 41 Posts: 1,042 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	if youre gonna put on terrible parts, why not save you money and just leave it stock?

11-05-2011, 07:59 AM	#28
allntrlundrgrnd Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,483 Trader Rating: (17) Rides Gallery: allntrlundrgrnd Feedback Score: 17 reviews	9+15 is perfect size for a not so aggressive fitment without modifications besides a minor roll. +40 Offset is honda territory. Reference: Old car. think the front had a 5mm spacer. (Black car) Yes, daily driven. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/kook_180sx

11-06-2011, 01:48 AM	#29
Driftbandit Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 387 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Keep the rims stock, and for gods sake buy coilovers made in any other country but China!