Zilvia Gun Thread

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by Future240

I wanted a lynx 12 until I saw the VR80. It?s not like I?m going to be constantly shooting so I?m fine with high brass stuff if I need.

I?m am concerned about the shoulder thing though. 25 rounds of shotty seems like you walk home sore as shit.

Also. I?m aware gun regulations are the height of gun talk. However this is more of a gun appreciation/information/enthusiast thread. I just don?t want it to devolved into another red versus blue mud sling. If it does not become a shit show like loud noises I?m fine with people debating and talking about it.

Well 25 rounds of straight deer slugs is a sore shoulder lolBut id do it again! Shit was fun.

Ill keep the poltics out of this thread sir!


Lookn at a colt m4 upper 14.5 to sit on a registered lower

And on a "want" list is an fnx45 hopen to find one on a good deal

[Future240]

Drool.





Two guns on my list.

Also

[S14rebuild]

Saint is a beauty

The vr80 needs the "v"cut off from the grip to the stock

Look at the panzers arms ar12 standard and pro-12 great price too

[Future240]

https://grabagun.com/clf-fx-9-9mm-8-33rd.html

Also sold out but do want.

[Future240]

https://www.internationalsportsman.c...y-ar-9-review/

[S14rebuild]

Gunbroker.com good sir

The way things are lookn... that fx-9 gonna be a nfa item.. no more "braces"

[Future240]

^^^ I don’t like over paying for stuff.

Seems you can get most guns you want as long as you pay $150-300 over msrp.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by Future240

^^^ I don?t like over paying for stuff.

Seems you can get most guns you want as long as you pay $150-300 over msrp.

Actually found hella deals on there(im a solid shopper, pride myself on a deal)


Side note...now qn owner of an fnx-45 lol add to my fn family

Qnd im pretty sure my local ffl sales guy convinced me to by an omega 45 suppressor ... tryn to not give into urges

[BryanSayWhat]

Psshhh... In the AK world there are people paying "$1500-3000" over msrp for imported AK's on Gunjoker.

It's ironic how some imported AK's go for more than high end AR's (use to be the opposite about 10yrs ago). I guess that's how it goes when imports can be stopped at the swipe of the pen...

[S14rebuild]

^^^ some of those prices are crazy... i went basic with a century arms vska in all magpul accessories. Bout it a few years back $400. I love it and ammo was cheap as shit(good ole wolf steel). Only ak i wanted or needed.

Still on the hunt for a 14.5 colt upper that isnt double priced right now lol. Got $ burning a hole in my pocket

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Still on the hunt for a 14.5 colt upper that isnt double priced right now lol. Got $ burning a hole in my pocket

I was looking into doing a Colt Block I, 1.5, or II build right before they stopped their civilian sales. Wish I would've...

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I was looking into doing a Colt Block I, 1.5, or II build right before they stopped their civilian sales. Wish I would've...

Yea colt block1 is whats the end goal

I finished up a mk18 mod1 block 2 build. Peq and all the goodies. Added a few "custom" parts tobadd my own touch. As it sits its one of my favorite setups.

[S14rebuild]

Let the wait begin.....

Omega 45k has been ordered and tax stamp submitted...

[BlackZenkiS14]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Let the wait begin.....

Omega 45k has been ordered and tax stamp submitted...

You do a EFile or paper? Individual or trust? Whats your wait time looking like these days?

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

You do a EFile or paper? Individual or trust? Whats your wait time looking like these days?

Efile isnt avaible for form4

I did 2 efiles form 1 (sbr and solvent trap aka suppressor) took 45 days

I did another 2 efile form 1 same sbr and ssuppressor...sitn at 60 days and still waiting.


My form 4 suppressor i did it all thru silence shop kiosk at my local ffl. Super easy, took 15mins. Good to go...this one im expecting a LONG WAIT.

I check reddit form 1/4 qpproval monthly treads...gives an idea of whats coming out.


And from what ive heard..the fbi is being a dick on background checks..so if uve ever been fingerprinted for anything "bad" their taken sweet time on approvals. That was just hear say

All individual no trusts

[BlackZenkiS14]

Man that's a bummer. the last Form4 I did, we were able to EFile on a trust, and it was like 90 days.

I'm done with my form1 stuff, everything else I want now is all Form4 stuff...ugh.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

Man that's a bummer. the last Form4 I did, we were able to EFile on a trust, and it was like 90 days.

I'm done with my form1 stuff, everything else I want now is all Form4 stuff...ugh.

Yea, shits on a long wait, and can only imagine what this next administration will do, one of the main reasons im filing now.

Ill def form 1 sbr still but im done with buildn my own suppressors. Ive had fun doing it and making some decent ones...but for the price in good materials and a solid concept...just go with a commerical can. Cant beat it

[BlackZenkiS14]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Yea, shits on a long wait, and can only imagine what this next administration will do, one of the main reasons im filing now.

Ill def form 1 sbr still but im done with buildn my own suppressors. Ive had fun doing it and making some decent ones...but for the price in good materials and a solid concept...just go with a commerical can. Cant beat it

Yea, I looked at the options after my last post, because of the better Form1 times, but honestly, if I'm going to spend $600 after cerakote to build a can, and I can get a legit one from a real manufacturer with real R&D for $800, it just doesnt make sense.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

Yea, I looked at the options after my last post, because of the better Form1 times, but honestly, if I'm going to spend $600 after cerakote to build a can, and I can get a legit one from a real manufacturer with real R&D for $800, it just doesnt make sense.

100% agree....

Plenty of reasonable priced cans out there now

[Future240]

Gun newbie here. What is the practical purpose of a suppressor?

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by Future240

Gun newbie here. What is the practical purpose of a suppressor?

Brings the db(noise level) down to hearing safe level


Nothing says "enjoyable" when firing a gun and it slowly making you and others around go deaf

Adding a suppressor with combination of sub-sonic ammunition will achieve the best effect.

Where some suppressors help drastically, its not like in the movies, or politicians sayn, u dont hear anything. Simply not true

[KA24DESOneThree]

dB of a gunshot is between 140 and 175. I haven't seen hearing protection with an NRR of higher than 37, so assuming you're wearing that, each gunshot is still between 103dB and 128dB. My 3M Peltor hearing protection is mid-20s NRR iirc, so it cannot attenuate to safe levels.

80-85dB is at the low limit of the NIOSH red tier for hearing damage. 100dB is the low limit for hearing damage after 15 minutes of exposure; 128dB is above the "pain and ear injury" threshold.

Ammunition To Go did a comparison test. .308Win was between 170-173 decibels unsuppressed, and 147-151 decibels suppressed. 5.56 was between 166-171 decibels unsuppressed, and 135-144 decibels suppressed. .22LR was between 145-153 decibels unsuppressed, and 119-129 decibels suppressed. Pistol calibers saw 167dB max unsuppressed and 134-146 decibels suppressed. Additional testing I've seen showed subsonic 9mm at 163dB unsuppressed and 126dB suppressed.

Now remember that every 10dB means sound energy is increased by a factor of ten, and every 20dB means sound energy is increased by a factor of 100. So a suppressor reduces sound energy by at least a factor of 100.

Like s14 said, politicians buy into this idea that suppressors make all guns super quiet like in movies, when in reality, they're just additional hearing protection.

[SupaDoopa]

Ruh roh, Shaggy.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ns-gun-control

[Future240]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Ruh roh, Shaggy.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ns-gun-control

Small but important blurb from that article

Biden?s campaign has called for giving owners of "assault weapons or high-capacity magazines" the option to either sell their weapons to the government or register them with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives under an expansion of the National Firearms Act.

I am not discounting what the chief of staff said but one lone member of his staff does not really mean that much.

While registering them does jack shit, I'd rather that than a seizure of weapons.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by Future240

Small but important blurb from that article



I am not discounting what the chief of staff said but one lone member of his staff does not really mean that much.

While registering them does jack shit, I'd rather that than a seizure of weapons.

1..my guns arent for sale. Even if they were you cant buy them with my tax dollars lol..silly goverment.

2..registration does do "jack shit" ....once registered what would stop them from seizing them? Now they know who has them and where they are.....smh



Do not comply.

[BlackZenkiS14]

I mean, I'm with you. However, we all had to register our Machine Guns, SBR's, and Suppressors back in 1934, 1968, and 1986 respectively. And the government hasnt seized any of those items at all yet, or even talked about it.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

I mean, I'm with you. However, we all had to register our Machine Guns, SBR's, and Suppressors back in 1934, 1968, and 1986 respectively. And the government hasnt seized any of those items at all yet, or even talked about it.

There are red flag laws that is goverment actively coming and stripping americans of their firearms


Now...you have goverment leaders, soon to be president out right stating they will take them away.

Most politicians. Will lie to to, this administration is straight out telling you were gonna take them.


And i challenge what would be benefit for having a gun registration? How does that make the country any safer? Smoke and mirrors

Look at Washington dc, where all legal purchesed firearms have tobe registered....look at the crime rate, homocide that is gun related... its one of the wrost in the country

[BlackZenkiS14]

I agree it doesnt. And it doesnt matter, I lost all mine in a horrific boating accident a few years ago. Only 3 items survived, consequently, it's the 3 the NFA already knows about.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by BlackZenkiS14

I agree it doesnt. And it doesnt matter, I lost all mine in a horrific boating accident a few years ago. Only 3 items survived, consequently, it's the 3 the NFA already knows about.

Dam, sorry for your loss!!


On a sidenote..... finally bought that colt 14.5 upper lol

[SupaDoopa]

They're forcing registration to know where to look for specific things. This will give them the ability to see how much you have and find a reason why you're unfit to own these items and find a way to seize. While it's a wild theory, it was almost implemented once and Hillary was knocking on that door again. Gun control makes society less important and weak. I have well over 100 AR's alone, never mind the other assortment of handguns, bolt-actions, piston-driven rifles, etc. Being a gunsmith on the side has its perks. I assure you they will not come seize my 'collection.' They'd have to tear out the complete basement of my home and partial piece of my other home in the mountains. Hard pass.