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08-03-2021, 09:24 AM | #1 | |
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You've been around long enough to know polyurethane does not belong on a car. Spherical only belongs on the track. My S13 was full retard. - Solid Subframe mounts, spherical arms, poly everything and the car was god awful because of it. There is a reason you don't see Spherical or Poly on any OEM application - regardless of how exotic, hyper-race ready or special it is. F40 Control Arm To my knowledge, the only Rubber based arms available are - Nismo Factory Style SPC Adjustable (SPC is a leader in alignment technology and equipment) NRG DME TruHart Megan and Nismo both offer "harder rubber" press in bushings for you arms, knuckles and subframes. Answer to OP's Question: GKTech confirmed what I suspected. The Elimination Bar would require an adjustable Toe-Arm to make sure toe-alignment is properly set. Even if it's only a few MM off from the factory sub-frame, that's enough to throw off you toe with no way to correct. |
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08-03-2021, 10:11 AM | #2 | |
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and you mentioned above about your dislike using urethane and heim joints from your S13 experience. im curious... what is it about both that you dislike so much? my S13 hatch is currently all heim joints and urethane bushings and i have zero qualms with any of my suspension setup (outside of the driveline noise from the rear subframe which i will remedy one day). ive driven a low mileage S13 Silvia a friend owns and the suspension slop is just god awful. not sure why youd be ok with that? |
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08-03-2021, 10:32 AM | #3 | |
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08-03-2021, 12:19 PM | #4 | |
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I have an amazingly clean R32 and I don't want to screw it up. These cars are great from the factory. 20 years ago I thought the idea of stitch welding towers, reinforcing all the arms, etc was hella-cool. Now I see it as a pointless waste of time and money unless you going full NASCAR with the damn thing. That 90's chassis flex is part of the charm. Plenty of better options if you're looking for a Rail. |
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08-03-2021, 12:45 PM | #5 | |
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one huge thing i did notice that helped with any road noise was after i replaced my inside hatch weather stripping and the hatch bumpers. it was night and day with sound reduction! I dunno, i think it may just be properly mixing suspension items with tires, along with good weather stripping to help reduce road noise with aftermarket bits. |
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08-03-2021, 12:15 PM | #6 | ||
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I'm sure you know, but for anyone just reading along - Nismo Rear Knuckle Bushings (6pcs) will set you back $180. Megan Rear Knuckle Bushings (6pcs) $110. Febest (6pc) - $70 Quote:
The noise and vibration was terrible. Diff whine, suspension squeak and creak. It also road stiff and I feel Poly slows the knuckles ability to articulate and return to neutral. Overall, that car had every single "Tuner Check Box, Zilvia Approved Race Mod" and was straight up un-enjoyable at the end of it. The nail in the coffin, that made me sell the car - At the last drift event I attend, my buddy and I swapped cars for a few laps. His an '89 Coupe, 100% stock except for a RB25 swapped with the boost cranked to 15psi and K-sports. It absolutely destroyed my S20, top mount, built Hatch in terms of fun and smoothness. Another great data point I have is from Cobb Tuning. When they purchased a FRS and BRZ for development work, Energy Suspension gave them a complete bushing kit. I forget which car got it, I think the BRZ - but the car became noticeably slower on the track compared to the FRS and significantly less enjoyable to drive on the street. |
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08-03-2021, 12:52 PM | #7 |
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well, go with as many Nissan/NISMO bushings that you can. i had to replace one of my Megan rear trailing arms recently on my Protege. it somehow got bent/smashed upward and there was no point of impact on my chassis to indicate how it bent. when i pulled the arm, the rubber bushing was peeling and flaking off rubber... looked like it was on its last leg TBH. they DO NOT hold up to heat well at all. arm was only 3-4 years old at most (so 3-4 Vegas summers).
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08-03-2021, 01:18 PM | #8 | ||
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Here is what Febest lists - Quote:
I'm curious if they are getting these parts made in Malaysia. If that's the case, could be some world class stuff. I ordered a sample to take a look. https://www.febest.us/arm-bushing-re...bly-nab-242-en |
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