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wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 05:24 AM

I recently picked up a s13 shell, when I got it home and looked under it the subframe was welded to the chassis...is there a reason for this? is it beneficial in any way or should I cut it out and replace?

lunchmeat · 03-09-2017, 05:34 AM

Sounds unnecessary when solid bushings would pretty much eliminate any play in the subframe.
Does it still have rubber bushings?

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 05:35 AM

yes and collars

lunchmeat · 03-09-2017, 05:39 AM

Sounds like someone just went the quick cheap route and tacked it.
Got any pics?

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 05:42 AM

I do on my phone I'll put some up when I get to my phone later today.

tuzzio · 03-09-2017, 08:01 AM

Welcome to owning an s-chassis. Where the people are retarded and the points don't matter

ixfxi · 03-09-2017, 09:09 AM

how is this possible? welding a subframe to the body sounds impossible. i need to see this

jared420sx · 03-09-2017, 09:37 AM

Ohhhh. Ive never seen this kind of retarded before. Please tell us more. Post some pictures.

Galaxy _S14 · 03-09-2017, 11:25 AM

I have to see this.. why be so cheap?

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wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 11:43 AM

I really hope I have a picture on my phone now. I am deployed so if I don't you guys might have to wait a few days until I can get someone to go snap a pic. From the sounds of all of these comments there is not an advantage to this. When I get it off and either put a new one on if it gets trashed or use that one if salvageable, should I just run the solid mounts or is there more to it?

jared420sx · 03-09-2017, 11:45 AM

Have fun getting that thing off. If you rip a stud out you're fucked lol.

Galaxy _S14 · 03-09-2017, 11:46 AM

I hoped they just tracked it on. For God's sake 😂😂

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Galaxy _S14 · 03-09-2017, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jared420sx

Have fun getting that thing off. If you rip a stud out you're fucked lol.

Like he said your pretty much fucked if that happens

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wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 11:50 AM

well damn I never thought of that part....surely there is a fix if that happens other than the hoodrat decision to weld it.

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 12:19 PM

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rawgarage · 03-09-2017, 12:24 PM

easy to cut and grind....

lunchmeat · 03-09-2017, 12:56 PM

That can be salvaged.

zenkicpe · 03-09-2017, 01:01 PM

you buy this in the country? Seems a "dirt track" kind of mod. Gotta respect american ingenuity when it comes to saving a buck.

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 01:02 PM

Cool so definitely cut it and put solid bushings in? Yes I bought it in the us as a non rolling shell for $200. It should be a fun project as long as I don't find too many more of this nonsense.

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lunchmeat · 03-09-2017, 01:06 PM

Oh this is straight up some redneck engineering shit. Hope it's just plates welded, and not welded because the bolt is snapped or rusted to hell and rounded off.

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 01:08 PM

I really hope so too. My thoughts are that it was a kid that thought it would make the rearend super solid or some shit. The chassis harness was the biggest hack wiring I have ever seen but I have only found 3 spots of rust on it and the frames were perfect.

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lunchmeat · 03-09-2017, 01:18 PM

If it were me, I'd cut the plates, drop the subframe, clean up the body and frame, paint all the things, add poly bushings.

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 01:20 PM

Leave the adjustable arms? They are either Megan or eBay.

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lunchmeat · 03-09-2017, 01:23 PM

Your call. Replace what you want now, or wait. Easier to swap parts when the frame is out.

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 01:23 PM

True.

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di-devol · 03-09-2017, 01:45 PM

More pics, for science.

wmblnknshp · 03-09-2017, 01:46 PM

I'll see if my wife can figure out what to take a picture of haha

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JM216S14 · 03-09-2017, 02:13 PM

If it is a broken stud I got some spares

derass · 03-09-2017, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunchmeat

Hope it's just plates welded, and not welded because the bolt is snapped or rusted to hell and rounded off.

This was my first thought: some kind of damage to the stud. Snapped, stripped threads, rotting off etc.

shawn1331 · 03-09-2017, 07:29 PM

just a heads up but a snapped stud is fixable, just did it in my car last week. wasnt fun but not all is lost.

03-09-2017, 05:24 AM	#1
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Subframe welded to chassis I recently picked up a s13 shell, when I got it home and looked under it the subframe was welded to the chassis...is there a reason for this? is it beneficial in any way or should I cut it out and replace?

03-09-2017, 09:37 AM	#8
jared420sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ny Age: 27 Posts: 1,057 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Ohhhh. Ive never seen this kind of retarded before. Please tell us more. Post some pictures. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/jdpowersport_/

03-09-2017, 11:45 AM	#11
jared420sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ny Age: 27 Posts: 1,057 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Have fun getting that thing off. If you rip a stud out you're fucked lol. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/jdpowersport_/

03-09-2017, 01:45 PM	#26
di-devol Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Woodinville Age: 42 Posts: 1,412 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	More pics, for science. __________________

03-09-2017, 05:34 AM	#2
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 45 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sounds unnecessary when solid bushings would pretty much eliminate any play in the subframe. Does it still have rubber bushings?

03-09-2017, 05:35 AM	#3
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yes and collars

03-09-2017, 05:39 AM	#4
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 45 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sounds like someone just went the quick cheap route and tacked it. Got any pics?

03-09-2017, 05:42 AM	#5
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I do on my phone I'll put some up when I get to my phone later today.

03-09-2017, 08:01 AM	#6
tuzzio Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,605 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Welcome to owning an s-chassis. Where the people are retarded and the points don't matter

03-09-2017, 09:09 AM	#7
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 82 Posts: 5,932 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	how is this possible? welding a subframe to the body sounds impossible. i need to see this

03-09-2017, 11:25 AM	#9
Galaxy _S14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Memphis Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have to see this.. why be so cheap? Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

03-09-2017, 11:43 AM	#10
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I really hope I have a picture on my phone now. I am deployed so if I don't you guys might have to wait a few days until I can get someone to go snap a pic. From the sounds of all of these comments there is not an advantage to this. When I get it off and either put a new one on if it gets trashed or use that one if salvageable, should I just run the solid mounts or is there more to it?

03-09-2017, 11:46 AM	#12
Galaxy _S14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Memphis Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I hoped they just tracked it on. For God's sake 😂😂 Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

03-09-2017, 11:50 AM	#14
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well damn I never thought of that part....surely there is a fix if that happens other than the hoodrat decision to weld it.

03-09-2017, 12:19 PM	#15
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-09-2017, 12:24 PM	#16
rawgarage Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: h o u s t o n Age: 35 Posts: 5,986 Trader Rating: (75) Feedback Score: 75 reviews	easy to cut and grind....

03-09-2017, 12:56 PM	#17
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 45 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That can be salvaged.

03-09-2017, 01:01 PM	#18
zenkicpe Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: NEPA Age: 43 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you buy this in the country? Seems a "dirt track" kind of mod. Gotta respect american ingenuity when it comes to saving a buck.

03-09-2017, 01:02 PM	#19
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cool so definitely cut it and put solid bushings in? Yes I bought it in the us as a non rolling shell for $200. It should be a fun project as long as I don't find too many more of this nonsense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-09-2017, 01:06 PM	#20
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 45 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh this is straight up some redneck engineering shit. Hope it's just plates welded, and not welded because the bolt is snapped or rusted to hell and rounded off.

03-09-2017, 01:08 PM	#21
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I really hope so too. My thoughts are that it was a kid that thought it would make the rearend super solid or some shit. The chassis harness was the biggest hack wiring I have ever seen but I have only found 3 spots of rust on it and the frames were perfect. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-09-2017, 01:18 PM	#22
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 45 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If it were me, I'd cut the plates, drop the subframe, clean up the body and frame, paint all the things, add poly bushings.

03-09-2017, 01:20 PM	#23
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Leave the adjustable arms? They are either Megan or eBay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-09-2017, 01:23 PM	#24
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 45 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Your call. Replace what you want now, or wait. Easier to swap parts when the frame is out.

03-09-2017, 01:46 PM	#27
wmblnknshp Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll see if my wife can figure out what to take a picture of haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-09-2017, 02:13 PM	#28
JM216S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Over the gate Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	If it is a broken stud I got some spares

03-09-2017, 07:29 PM	#30
shawn1331 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ontario Age: 31 Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just a heads up but a snapped stud is fixable, just did it in my car last week. wasnt fun but not all is lost.