SSR Professor SP1 17x9 +6 17x10 -1 5x114.3 set of 4 w/ tires - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

darrell · 07-13-2006, 10:40 AM

SSR Professor SP1 17x9 +6 (72 mm lip) 17x10 -1 (123 mm lip). 235/40/17 Dunlop FM901 tires on all 4 wheels. Tread left 50%. Asking price $2100. Located in San Diego. Prefer local pick up.

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DUBCITY · 07-13-2006, 10:58 AM

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hitman · 07-13-2006, 01:00 PM

saw these in person, and they are freakin sick. bump.

iMAGE976 · 07-13-2006, 01:31 PM

do u have the center caps for all the tires??

vutony · 07-13-2006, 01:34 PM

Are these the wheels that bomex and s2kwndll use to owned

p11driver · 07-13-2006, 02:37 PM

the wheels on the bus go round round round

darrell · 07-13-2006, 03:04 PM

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do u have the center caps for all the tires??

I did not receive center caps when i bought the wheels.

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Are these the wheels that bomex and s2kwndll use to owned

Im not sure. i bought them from Nizzan4u2nv. I think I'm like the 5th or 6th owner of these wheels.

CrazyIvan · 07-13-2006, 03:58 PM

poor set of wheels must be feeling like a whore now... lol

JDM Junkyard · 07-13-2006, 06:02 PM

can you show how much they stick out front and back? from a side shot? Thanks

gotta240 · 07-13-2006, 06:58 PM

yeah, how did you get those to fit?

overfenders, what?
thanks...

Nizzan4u2nv · 07-13-2006, 08:25 PM

For the rears youll need 3.5 to 4* neg camber with stock rolled fenders. Fronts will fit rolled fenders no prob, very little camber.

darrell · 07-14-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM Junkyard

can you show how much they stick out front and back? from a side shot? Thanks

The wheels fit more "flush" on Nizzan4u2nv's car since his car is lower and he's runnin more camber than I am.

SPX-13 · 07-14-2006, 10:38 AM

^ Those front tires look like far less than %50 tread.

These wheels look very nice, but they sell brand new for $1720, and considering these have had 5-6 owners, $2100 seems a little steep for cast 17s. (Mabey for Meisters).

Just FYI, i recently purchased a brand new set of 18x9 18x10.5 SP1s for $1800 shipped with centercaps.

JDM Junkyard · 07-14-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SPX-13

^ Those front tires look like far less than %50 tread.

These wheels look very nice, but they sell brand new for $1720, and considering these have had 5-6 owners, $2100 seems a little steep for cast 17s. (Mabey for Meisters).

Just FYI, i recently purchased a brand new set of 18x9 18x10.5 SP1s for $1800 shipped with centercaps.

Where can you still order SP1's at? Just price checking.

Ricks15 · 07-14-2006, 10:57 AM

I seen that Tirerack.com carrys SSR wheels.

darrell · 07-14-2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SPX-13

^ Those front tires look like far less than %50 tread.

These wheels look very nice, but they sell brand new for $1720, and considering these have had 5-6 owners, $2100 seems a little steep for cast 17s. (Mabey for Meisters).

Just FYI, i recently purchased a brand new set of 18x9 18x10.5 SP1s for $1800 shipped with centercaps.

One side of the tires was worn due to camber so I had them flipped. The inner side of the tires have far more tread left.

I also would like to know where they sell brand new for $1720.

SPX-13 · 07-14-2006, 11:50 AM

http://www.gruppe-s.com/SSR/SSRProfessor.htm

$420 for the 17x9 and $440 for the 17x10 = $1720 for the set

These wheel have always been this price and im sure they will continue to be.

SSR was bought by Tanabe Japan, so the wheel has been re-released. Gruppe-S has already done an initial buy through them for my350z.com.

JDM Junkyard · 07-14-2006, 12:00 PM

In light of this info. I'll offer $1300 picked up for the wheel/tire. Let me know if you want to sell for that price. Thanks

SPX-13 · 07-14-2006, 12:37 PM

same wheels in 19x9 and 19x10.5 brand new for $1750 shipped
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=203277

Flybert · 07-14-2006, 12:50 PM

If I recall, the original owner got these from team orange which means that they got them in japan and are true semi solid forged SSR SP1's rather than the US sold SP1 which are cast. The seller just needs to find out this info. If it's forged and they are in perfect condition, that price isn't tooooo bad but if it's cast, that price is horrible.

SPX-13 · 07-14-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Flybert

If I recall, the original owner got these from team orange which means that they got them in japan and are true semi solid forged SSR SP1's rather than the US sold SP1 which are cast. The seller just needs to find out this info. If it's forged and they are in perfect condition, that price isn't tooooo bad but if it's cast, that price is horrible.

SSR Japan NEVER made forged SP1s, that is a fact. Where did you ever hear that? I have owned 4 sets of SP1s since they came out over 5 years ago. Some came straight from SSR Japan and some came from USA dealers, they were all the same, and SSR Japan has always offered only one version of SP1 which were cast and were priced the same as any SP1 I got stateside. The reason why these have always been an affordable 3-piece wheel was because they are cast. People that want forged go with the Meisters, basically the same wheel except forged. Minor differences between USA SP1s and Japans SP1s were colors and the SSR Logo that came on the spoke, but that was it, price was pretty much exactly the same, which could never be achieved if the wheel was cast. Some could argue that mabey they made a small number of forged SP1s for shops/motorsports, but SSR would never spend the tens of thousands of dollars to create the forging dies and to not release the wheel to the public.

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Flybert, I misread your post. As a matter of fact, yes, these SP1s and all SP1s are "semi-solid forged". "Semi-solid forged is just a fancy way of casting, but probably the best casting. Nontheless, all SP1s are and have been SSF.

Semi-solid forged = Cast

Forged = Forged

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/ssr/ssr_info.jsp

Nizzan4u2nv · 07-14-2006, 03:57 PM

Gruppe-s sizing is not consistent with the sizing on rd-tanabe. Gruppe has 17x10 -1 only has a 59mm lip whereas these are 123mm. Gruppe 17x9 +6 has the same 72mm lip though. These wheels were custom made for msports japan(custom gold, which costs more). The first 4 onwer's never even used these wheels. The 3rd owner only mounted the tires, and sold them to the owner before me which didnt even have a car to put them on.

Nizzan4u2nv · 07-14-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM Junkyard

In light of this info. I'll offer $1300 picked up for the wheel/tire. Let me know if you want to sell for that price. Thanks

You mine as well buy from gruppe-s.

JDM Junkyard · 07-14-2006, 04:13 PM

Custom color is stated to be $20+ per wheel

And Gruppe-s looks just to have copied the heading on the 2nd row wrong.

My price stands, and I can pick up on Saturday if you are still interested in selling them.

JDM Junkyard · 07-14-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nizzan4u2nv

You mine as well buy from gruppe-s.

Well brand new price is my cost on Works Miesters technically. But I'm looking for something different. I already have miesters on my other car.

SPX-13 · 07-14-2006, 04:19 PM

My intentions are not to ruin this thread, but only clear up some inccorect information.

First off, Gruppe-s' offset table is off, thats it. Call them and check. If you compare the gruppe-s table with the SSR Japan one you can see that the person at Gruppe-s who copied and pasted it just screwed up, the repeated the top row on the bottom, so all the lip sizes are off.

Bottom line is that any 17x10 -1 SP1 will have a 123mm lip, there is nothing "custom" about these wheels as far as size and offset go. The color is the only thing different than what SSR normally offers, but how much can you really add on top of MSRP for color? Yes these wheels look great and in very good condition, but they are USED, there is now way around that.

Im done as long as there is no more false info posted.

SPX-13 · 07-14-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nizzan4u2nv

You mine as well buy from gruppe-s.

I guess youve just rerouted all the potential buyers. Why pay more for something used when you can get it brand new for less?

Nizzan4u2nv · 07-14-2006, 04:26 PM

I dont see anyone posting false info. Read my post. Did I say they were custom size? no. Is gruppe s information wrong? Yes. You say ssr never made forged ssr, but in the second paragraph you write semi solid forged. Forged is forged whether or not their techniques is close to casting. If you dont wanna pay that price, you dont have to, simple as that.

JDM Junkyard · 07-14-2006, 04:34 PM

Whatever the case maybe. Good luck on your sale.

SPX-13 · 07-14-2006, 04:45 PM

I wasnt saying that you had posted up any false info, just the fact that you guys are making these wheels out to be some "special" SP1s, when they are the same as any other that anyone can order through a shop for less than you are asking. Ok, pay the extra $ for a different color, but it still doesnt touch the price that is being asked. And then the fact the seller claims the tires have 50% tread, but im sorry, a tire with inner or outer camber wear beyond the tread patch qualifies for having 0% tread left.

And about your comment on forging vs. semi solid forging, mabey we should just make another thread instead of ruining this one, but Semi-Solid Forged != Forged TE37s and Meisters are forged, these are not. They can legally call it semi-solid forging, but the reason why they can sell it for prices that match cast wheels, is because it is a form of casting. They melt the metal, they dont form it. Anyways, if it was a true forge or even close then i think everyone would be rolling on SSRs and Work would definatly be out of business.

Let the man sell his wheels, but mabey he should rethink his asking price.

07-13-2006, 10:40 AM	#1
darrell Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 39 Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	SSR Professor SP1 17x9 +6 17x10 -1 5x114.3 set of 4 w/ tires SSR Professor SP1 17x9 +6 (72 mm lip) 17x10 -1 (123 mm lip). 235/40/17 Dunlop FM901 tires on all 4 wheels. Tread left 50%. Asking price $2100. Located in San Diego. Prefer local pick up. Front Rear __________________ wild gummy

07-13-2006, 10:58 AM	#2
DUBCITY Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Redondo Beach, Ca Age: 40 Posts: 596 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	pm sent . __________________ Keep your eyes peeled for Project DUBCITY!

07-13-2006, 01:00 PM	#3
hitman Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: late 19th century prussia Age: 36 Posts: 1,057 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	saw these in person, and they are freakin sick. bump. __________________ driftparty.com

07-13-2006, 01:31 PM	#4
iMAGE976 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SoCAL Posts: 2,047 Trader Rating: (11) Rides Gallery: iMAGE976 Feedback Score: 11 reviews	do u have the center caps for all the tires?? __________________

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vutony Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: (714) OC area Posts: 5,273 Trader Rating: (145) Feedback Score: 145 reviews	Are these the wheels that bomex and s2kwndll use to owned __________________ i have engine hoist for rent i do SR wiring

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p11driver Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: So cal Age: 38 Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the wheels on the bus go round round round __________________

07-13-2006, 03:58 PM	#8
CrazyIvan Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kissimmee, FL Age: 41 Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	poor set of wheels must be feeling like a whore now... lol __________________ powder-coated.com - I do Custom Powder Coating

07-13-2006, 06:02 PM	#9
JDM Junkyard Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cali Posts: 226 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	can you show how much they stick out front and back? from a side shot? Thanks

07-13-2006, 06:58 PM	#10
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	yeah, how did you get those to fit? overfenders, what? thanks...

07-13-2006, 08:25 PM	#11
Nizzan4u2nv Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 39 Posts: 1,226 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	For the rears youll need 3.5 to 4* neg camber with stock rolled fenders. Fronts will fit rolled fenders no prob, very little camber. __________________

07-14-2006, 10:38 AM	#13
SPX-13 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cali Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ Those front tires look like far less than %50 tread. These wheels look very nice, but they sell brand new for $1720, and considering these have had 5-6 owners, $2100 seems a little steep for cast 17s. (Mabey for Meisters). Just FYI, i recently purchased a brand new set of 18x9 18x10.5 SP1s for $1800 shipped with centercaps.

07-14-2006, 10:57 AM	#15
Ricks15 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 38 Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I seen that Tirerack.com carrys SSR wheels. __________________

07-14-2006, 11:50 AM	#17
SPX-13 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cali Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.gruppe-s.com/SSR/SSRProfessor.htm $420 for the 17x9 and $440 for the 17x10 = $1720 for the set These wheel have always been this price and im sure they will continue to be. SSR was bought by Tanabe Japan, so the wheel has been re-released. Gruppe-S has already done an initial buy through them for my350z.com.

07-14-2006, 12:00 PM	#18
JDM Junkyard Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cali Posts: 226 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	In light of this info. I'll offer $1300 picked up for the wheel/tire. Let me know if you want to sell for that price. Thanks

07-14-2006, 12:37 PM	#19
SPX-13 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cali Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	same wheels in 19x9 and 19x10.5 brand new for $1750 shipped http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=203277

07-14-2006, 12:50 PM	#20
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	If I recall, the original owner got these from team orange which means that they got them in japan and are true semi solid forged SSR SP1's rather than the US sold SP1 which are cast. The seller just needs to find out this info. If it's forged and they are in perfect condition, that price isn't tooooo bad but if it's cast, that price is horrible.

07-14-2006, 03:57 PM	#22
Nizzan4u2nv Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 39 Posts: 1,226 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Gruppe-s sizing is not consistent with the sizing on rd-tanabe. Gruppe has 17x10 -1 only has a 59mm lip whereas these are 123mm. Gruppe 17x9 +6 has the same 72mm lip though. These wheels were custom made for msports japan(custom gold, which costs more). The first 4 onwer's never even used these wheels. The 3rd owner only mounted the tires, and sold them to the owner before me which didnt even have a car to put them on. __________________

07-14-2006, 04:13 PM	#24
JDM Junkyard Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cali Posts: 226 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Custom color is stated to be $20+ per wheel And Gruppe-s looks just to have copied the heading on the 2nd row wrong. My price stands, and I can pick up on Saturday if you are still interested in selling them.

07-14-2006, 04:19 PM	#26
SPX-13 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cali Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My intentions are not to ruin this thread, but only clear up some inccorect information. First off, Gruppe-s' offset table is off, thats it. Call them and check. If you compare the gruppe-s table with the SSR Japan one you can see that the person at Gruppe-s who copied and pasted it just screwed up, the repeated the top row on the bottom, so all the lip sizes are off. Bottom line is that any 17x10 -1 SP1 will have a 123mm lip, there is nothing "custom" about these wheels as far as size and offset go. The color is the only thing different than what SSR normally offers, but how much can you really add on top of MSRP for color? Yes these wheels look great and in very good condition, but they are USED, there is now way around that. Im done as long as there is no more false info posted.

07-14-2006, 04:26 PM	#28
Nizzan4u2nv Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 39 Posts: 1,226 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I dont see anyone posting false info. Read my post. Did I say they were custom size? no. Is gruppe s information wrong? Yes. You say ssr never made forged ssr, but in the second paragraph you write semi solid forged. Forged is forged whether or not their techniques is close to casting. If you dont wanna pay that price, you dont have to, simple as that. __________________

07-14-2006, 04:34 PM	#29
JDM Junkyard Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cali Posts: 226 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Whatever the case maybe. Good luck on your sale.

07-14-2006, 04:45 PM	#30
SPX-13 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cali Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wasnt saying that you had posted up any false info, just the fact that you guys are making these wheels out to be some "special" SP1s, when they are the same as any other that anyone can order through a shop for less than you are asking. Ok, pay the extra $ for a different color, but it still doesnt touch the price that is being asked. And then the fact the seller claims the tires have 50% tread, but im sorry, a tire with inner or outer camber wear beyond the tread patch qualifies for having 0% tread left. And about your comment on forging vs. semi solid forging, mabey we should just make another thread instead of ruining this one, but Semi-Solid Forged != Forged TE37s and Meisters are forged, these are not. They can legally call it semi-solid forging, but the reason why they can sell it for prices that match cast wheels, is because it is a form of casting. They melt the metal, they dont form it. Anyways, if it was a true forge or even close then i think everyone would be rolling on SSRs and Work would definatly be out of business. Let the man sell his wheels, but mabey he should rethink his asking price.