The everything cd009 swap thread.

[Bleakley]

Originally Posted by foreverdeath

Mainly how he conducts business. I ordered my K-series to CD00x adapter calling him before I put the order in as the his site says "out of stock, most items restock within a month". He told me yeah you'll have in a month as there's a wait list on machining. so I ordered it 17MAY18 for 2200$... Hoping it would come in before I go to bootcamp in 2 months, so I could at least have Kswap mounted and start major fabrication before i left.

While in A school in FL i was pretty patient until I was getting ready to go home on leave for thanksgiving and work on the car some more. contacted him via email on 02AUG18 and it went like this...





After that silence till 20SEP18, where he emailed me a a tracking number for the "adapter plate and clutch system". When I got back to VA in November I opened the box to find everything but the flywheel was in the box. And the stage 3 clutch that came with, as i didnt have the extra 1200 for a twin disk, I found out after looking up the part number on the pressure plate was a 130$ Ebay special Stage 3, 6 puck 350z clutch. I called him immediately, don't recall the conversation but on 14DEC18 (2 weeks after I went back to FL) he emailed me a tracking number for the flywheel.

Needless to say I was the guiney pig on this one and doubt he has sold anymore. The kit its self was ok looking it over, having never done something like this before. The adapter plate bolt had 2 bags labeled "2JZ CD009" and "K20/K24 CD009". Not all bolts fit and the two lower transmission bolts could not be found from the bags. When I replaced the engine, from bending a rod at 14psi going to ham on E85 igition timing, I had found that the pilot bushing after only about 3000miles was still ok to the input shaft but would slip right out of the flywheel. From day 1 I've always had input shaft bearing noise with the clutch engaged which I assumed was from a used tranny. I had got from a friend for free after putting a new motor and tranny in his 03 Z but he told me that was a new noise. After seeing that I'm not sure if the transmission is concentrically centered with the engine.

Wow. What in THE F***. What a douchebag.
Alright man, there’s now like 6-7+ people in this thread alone saying no-go on the Collins kit for KA/RB to CD00. That def does it for me. I am SOO sorry for your guys’ headaches, but thank all you guys so much for contributing to this thread so others don’t have to go through the same unnecessary BULLSHIT.

[slideyboiz240]

Hello, I am swapping a 2jzgtevvti into an s13, using a collins adapter plate and a ACT clutch. I read somewhere (and cannot find that source again) that the input shaft needed to be cut 1/4 of an inch in order to not bottom out on the crank. After beveling a small amount off the input shaft and attempting to mate the engine and trans, the bellhousing is roughly 1/2 inch away from being flush with the engine. I did make sure that the splines on the input shaft were correctly matched up with the clutch but, the trans wont go any further. My concern is if I cut more off the input shaft, I could cut too small and if I dont cut more and tighten it up with the bellhousing bolts, it could mess up my crank.

Any suggestions or input?

[Bleakley]

EDIT —> L O LOLOL!!! Disregard this. I brain farted

[BiG MiKE86]

Guys this SerialNine kit is the fugggin bees knees... Between the housing and the shifter this thing doesnt get any more straight forward. The quality is the truth and driving this thing with the shifter makes the car so much more fun. I was originally a little worried about some noises the trans makes when its just idling outta gear but after a little research people were saying thats common once you switch over to a lightweight flywheel.

Also I couldn't figure out how to set any gap on the internal slave so its just riding on the pressure plate but so far feels great. Please let me know if I missed something

[foreverdeath]

Originally Posted by BiG MiKE86

Guys this SerialNine kit is the fugggin bees knees... Between the housing and the shifter this thing doesnt get any more straight forward. The quality is the truth and driving this thing with the shifter makes the car so much more fun. I was originally a little worried about some noises the trans makes when its just idling outta gear but after a little research people were saying thats common once you switch over to a lightweight flywheel.

Also I couldn't figure out how to set any gap on the internal slave so its just riding on the pressure plate but so far feels great. Please let me know if I missed something

What shifter were you running before?

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[BiG MiKE86]

Originally Posted by foreverdeath

What shifter were you running before?

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First shifter I ran on this setup. Coming from an R-154 that shifted like a truck


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[foreverdeath]

Originally Posted by BiG MiKE86

First shifter I ran on this setup. Coming from an R-154 that shifted like a truck


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Damn I was hoping to hear a good comparison. I'm not really happy with the shift feel of my GKtech. Just play from the bushing setup they use, unlike serial9s rod end. Hmmm I could mod it next time it's out for one...

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[BiG MiKE86]

Originally Posted by foreverdeath

Damn I was hoping to hear a good comparison. I'm not really happy with the shift feel of my GKtech. Just play from the bushing setup they use, unlike serial9s rod end. Hmmm I could mod it next time it's out for one...

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What?s the issue with that shifter? Seems like a solid setup


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[Bleakley]

So glad to hear that. They want a million bucks but it seems like solid, top tier quality shit man.

[BiG MiKE86]

Originally Posted by Bleakley

So glad to hear that. They want a million bucks but it seems like solid, top tier quality shit man.

It?s a tad pricey for sure but you absolutely get what you pay for. When I was pricing versus Collins kit I think it wasn?t too great of a difference when using the A340 housing maybe under a grand difference and after seeing the negative reviews I?m so glad I went this route.


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[foreverdeath]

You know how the oem 5SPD shifter always has some slop even with the metal bush. The gktech setup feel is nice but with the short throw the sloppy of the shift level to bush and bush to selector arm is almost the the same distance as going from 1-3 or 3-5. Took me a quite a while to get a feel for it and many missshifts. Thankfully all k24 have the same valve springs as a k20 so it wont explode seeing +9k rpm briefly.

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[BiG MiKE86]

Originally Posted by foreverdeath

You know how the oem 5SPD shifter always has some slop even with the metal bush. The gktech setup feel is nice but with the short throw the sloppy of the shift level to bush and bush to selector arm is almost the the same distance as going from 1-3 or 3-5. Took me a quite a while to get a feel for it and many missshifts. Thankfully all k24 have the same valve springs as a k20 so it wont explode seeing +9k rpm briefly.

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Oof.. yeah thats sketchy. The first day I drove it I did shift into the wrong gears a few times just because they are so close but there?s virtually zero slop it?s just a matter if getting used to it


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[Vicious Beaner!]

Anyone using a twin disc clutch with the mazworx cd009 kit. What sleeve for the throw out bearing are you guys using ? I have a exedy twin disc. Not quite sure if the stock 30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14 works with it since it's a twin disc.id appreciate any feedback thanks

[TheRealSy90]

Originally Posted by Vicious Beaner!

Anyone using a twin disc clutch with the mazworx cd009 kit. What sleeve for the throw out bearing are you guys using ? I have a exedy twin disc. Not quite sure if the stock 30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14 works with it since it's a twin disc.id appreciate any feedback thanks

I've used an OsGiken TS2BD twin disc with the Mazworx kit. I used the throw out bearing and sleeve that OsGiken prescribes to use with their clutch. No clue about other brands.

For what it's worth you have to use a shorter sleeve with the OsG twin disc, the factory sr sleeve is too long.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by Vicious Beaner!

Anyone using a twin disc clutch with the mazworx cd009 kit. What sleeve for the throw out bearing are you guys using ? I have a exedy twin disc. Not quite sure if the stock 30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14 works with it since it's a twin disc.id appreciate any feedback thanks

ATS twin carbon carbon here with the Mazworx bell housing
Twin Disk TOB Sleeve
Standard S chassis fork (I was told my Maworx you cannot use the upgraded steel fork or pivot ball)
And twin disk TOB (part number Koyo/Nissan 30502-14601)

I think the TOB and sleeve are essentially universal across a majority of the most of the twin plates

[Vicious Beaner!]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

ATS twin carbon carbon here with the Mazworx bell housing
Twin Disk TOB Sleeve
Standard S chassis fork (I was told my Maworx you cannot use the upgraded steel fork or pivot ball)
And twin disk TOB (part number Koyo/Nissan 30502-14601)

I think the TOB and sleeve are essentially universal across a majority of the most of the twin plates

Have a # for the sleeve you are using or was it provided by ats ?

What about the nismo pivot ball . Looks identical as the stock sr one from a glance

[crash n' burn]

So, I got a question for everyone. I'm about to order my adapter kid from my jz/cd swap.

Measurements:
a340 Bellhousing
14 3/8" exterior diameter (top to bottom), 4 3/4" depth; 13" inside diameter, input shaft is centered @ 6.5"

CD009
16" exterior diameter (top to bottom), 6 3/4" depth (to second rib where cut is made); 13 1/4" inside diameter, input shaft centered @ 6 5/8"

Assuming the no-cut adapter ring is 1/2" and the "cut kit" adapter flange is 1.5", the overall length would be shorter with the cut kit (1.5"), while also having about an inch extra ground clearance, and less firewall bashing.

Is it worth the extra money converting to an internal slave set-up needed for the cut kit since my CD is external with a new slave?

[RalliartRsX]

Yep. Give me a few let me look up my receipt,

As long as it the SR height pivot ball for the SR20DET 5 speed, the nismo one should work

[Vicious Beaner!]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Yep. Give me a few let me look up my receipt,

As long as it the SR height pivot ball for the SR20DET 5 speed, the nismo one should work

Awesome thank you ! So far from what I've gathered for the mazworx bellhousing kit and exedy twin disc clutch I use the OEM sr20 24mm sleeve?

[TheRealSy90]

The Mazworx bellhousing is designed around the SR bellhousing dimensions, so any clutch parts for the regular sr 5-speed trans are cross compatible and that's the parts you would use for aftermarket clutches.

I've posted all the bearing/sleeve info for ORC twin discs before, pretty sure its the same as OsGiken as well.:

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

You coulda just asked me dude haha.

Both the 559 and 659 ORC clutch use their "Type A" release bearing that is 67.1mm diameter http://www.paramo.jp/vp3.php?ci=ogur...echnical_13_en .
It's available to order on Nengun supposedly: https://www.nengun.com/orc/release-bearing

The nissan part number for the bearing is 30502-14601, they use an oem nissan bearing from a pickup and can order it really anywhere.

As far as the sleeve, it SHOULD work with 16mm or 18mm sleeves, according to ORC documentation: http://www.ogura-racing.com/pdf/partslist.pdf

OEM part numbers:
16mm: 30501-02C74
18mm: 30501-S0284

(I'm 99% sure one is literally a 350z clutch bearing sleeve, same as the one I used with my OsGiken twin disc)

Originally Posted by Vicious Beaner!

Awesome thank you ! So far from what I've gathered for the mazworx bellhousing kit and exedy twin disc clutch I use the OEM sr20 24mm sleeve?

If that clutch is designed to use that sleeve, should probably contact Exedy to verify they don't require a specific sleeve for the twin disc.

Generally the twin disc stack height is taller than a single disc and requires a shorter sleeve. I'd be surprised if their twin plate is the same height as a single.

[Vicious Beaner!]

So yea contacted exedy and they said it uses the stock oem sleeve from an sr20det which would be a 24mm sleeve and just pair it with thier tob provided . Def would have though it would of been a shorter one like said since it's for a twin disc . Looks like I'll have to mock it up and see how everything is lining up

[BiG MiKE86]

Guys I?m running Redline MT-85 fluid and I get some nasty shifts when the trans is cold but it shifts great once it finally warms up. You guys have the same experience? What?s everyone using?

Also with a the brand new trans do you guys change the fluid after a few miles or nah?


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[Boostin Caffeine]

What?s up dudes.. Newbie, but FAR long time lurker of the forums, just here to shed some info that may or may not have been covered before.

Starting off, the Factory CDXXX to End of service cover is 28?


With the collins A340, it?s the same 28?. Maybe useless to know, but that means the sandwich plate Adaptor adds about 1/2? to the total length.


I?m running factory flywheel M/T 3RZ bolts, this is because the Collins kit comes with some trash nonflanged grade 10.9 bolts. The 3RZ are 12 point, and high grade with factory thread locker cost: $20 from my local Yota dealer.
The collins Full Kit comes with some trash Ebay clutch setup, so I opted for a Southbends Clutch, and my Slave cylinder is a factory GM part, as far as my clutch lines and Bleeder valve, I went with the ISR T56 remote kit (comes with Wilwood MC setup). As far as the shifter goes, many probably know by now the collins shifter is trash, I made the mistake of buying it, and I?ll post a vid of how suicidal the shifts are.





Collins Shifter:
https://youtu.be/eolBShUOVfY

The Diff I?ll be using is an Early model Q45 6 bolt diff, with z33 axles. This diff is a similar ratio as the factory 350z rear diff, but complete bolt on for S13s.


I?ve bought both my CD009 Transmissions for $200, the trick is to look for 05? G/Z transmission, most of these are marked CD#1 on the casings. This doesn?t mean they are CD001 or CD008. Nissan recalled some transmissions for the syncros, and replaced the transmissions with Early CD009s. I?ve confirmed my ?Gold? transmission is in fact a true CD009 with ConceptZMotorsports. But it was for sale as a CD001, and I?ve seen others posted for sale the same way. Just a good thing to keep in mind while looking for them.

Sorry for longish post, but hopefully something is useful to someone.

[e30gangsta]

Originally Posted by BiG MiKE86

Guys I?m running Redline MT-85 fluid and I get some nasty shifts when the trans is cold but it shifts great once it finally warms up. You guys have the same experience? What?s everyone using?

Also with a the brand new trans do you guys change the fluid after a few miles or nah?


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Switch to amsoil. Helped my cd a lot back in the day in my Z.

[BiG MiKE86]

Originally Posted by e30gangsta

Switch to amsoil. Helped my cd a lot back in the day in my Z.

Word ill have to give it a shot. Thanks!

[LoSt180]

Originally Posted by e30gangsta

Switch to amsoil. Helped my cd a lot back in the day in my Z.

Wild, I didn't like Amsoil in my G35. Was notchy in the winter when cold, Redline MT85 has been great for me.

I know some of the older trans pre-CD009 were notchy simply due to the unrevised syncro setup on those (double cone vs triple cone in CD009). A lot of people just call any Z33 trans a CD009 not realizing the early models kinda sucked.

[e30gangsta]

Originally Posted by LoSt180

Wild, I didn't like Amsoil in my G35. Was notchy in the winter when cold, Redline MT85 has been great for me.

I know some of the older trans pre-CD009 were notchy simply due to the unrevised syndro setup on those (double cone vs triple cone in CD009). A lot of people just call any Z33 trans a CD009 not realizing the early models kinda sucked.

We're in Florida not Maryland. Mike run the amsoil trust me on this.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by e30gangsta

We're in Florida not Maryland. Mike run the amsoil trust me on this.

Link to which formulation or details to which Amsoil gear oil you used?

[RalliartRsX]

Confirmed. 350/370 gearboxes are loud lol. Its only obnoxious because most if use drive a tin can for a vehicle with lack of sound and heat insulation lol.

I added some heat/sound insulation and will probably add more later down the line

[BiG MiKE86]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Confirmed. 350/370 gearboxes are loud lol. Its only obnoxious because most if use drive a tin can for a vehicle with lack of sound and heat insulation lol.

I added some heat/sound insulation and will probably add more later down the line

True story. Oddly enough mine has actually quieted down as I?ve put some miles on it. Mine was factory new using serialnine bell housing and comp clutch stage 4 clutch.