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*Jonnie Fraz* · 07-31-2009, 12:01 AM

Ok boys and girls...I am very close to the release of the S13 fender braces and I want to get a feel for how big they are going to be. I have a couple sets out as a pre-release/ R&D phase. So far the feedback has been great.

Here are a few pics.

Price will be around $150.00 for a set plus shipping.

Tell me what you guys think.

Take care
Jonnie

Def · 07-31-2009, 12:41 PM

Have you thought about triangulating the two bars?

What about picking up both the upper door hinge bolts instead of just one?

The triangulation would add quite a bit of stiffness to the braces.

sicj · 07-31-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Def

Have you thought about triangulating the two bars?

What about picking up both the upper door hinge bolts instead of just one?

The triangulation would add quite a bit of stiffness to the braces.

EVERYTHING he said...

triangulate the two and add the sencond bolt to the top brace and I will buy a set!

Can we get a side shot to see the thinckness of the tube size?

punxva · 07-31-2009, 03:25 PM

i'd be interested in a pair

*Jonnie Fraz* · 07-31-2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicj

EVERYTHING he said...

triangulate the two and add the sencond bolt to the top brace and I will buy a set!

Can we get a side shot to see the thinckness of the tube size?

I will look at putting the third bar in, but most of the bracing is done with the lower bar.
As for the double bolts on the top, I did that on purpose so you would not have to take all four of the door bolts out to mount them.
I will try to get some of the test pilots to chime in to let you guys know what they think.

Thanks for the input
Jonnie

Def · 08-01-2009, 07:29 AM

The bottom bar is in tension/bending, the top is in compression bending. Triangulating them keeps the bending component to a minimum.

What's the weight on the bars?

Pirate_Freder · 08-07-2009, 12:06 AM

I'd take a pair. How far out are these?

I also need to get one of your front strut bars and your tension arm brace. BTW, you ever looked at doing a FSTB like rotorimp did where it braces against the firewall? I would love one like that + a master cylinder stopper if you can make one

95KA-Turbo · 08-07-2009, 09:37 AM

I didn't have any issues with taking all 4 of my door bolts off on my S14 when I installed my URAS fender braces. I just did two at a time, and you put them back in loose so you can move the brace enough to take out the other two. The doors stay put even with only a few threads on each of the 4 bolts, haha.

Just offering some suggestions.

Nacho_240 · 08-13-2009, 04:42 PM

At this price, I would def snatch a set! Will the install be a bolt-on affair?

brokeAs240sx · 08-13-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nacho_240

At this price, I would def snatch a set! Will the install be a bolt-on affair?

Completely bolt-on. I have my review of these on one of Jonnie Fraz's other threads. Highly recommended. Definitely helped tighten up the front end.

Only warning: for those w/ aftermarket fenders w/ those vents in the center, you will have to modify it accordingly because the bar will hit it; this is an issue with fender braces in general, not just Jonnie's.

Nacho_240 · 08-14-2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brokeAs240sx

Completely bolt-on. I have my review of these on one of Jonnie Fraz's other threads. Highly recommended. Definitely helped tighten up the front end.

Only warning: for those w/ aftermarket fenders w/ those vents in the center, you will have to modify it accordingly because the bar will hit it; this is an issue with fender braces in general, not just Jonnie's.

That's good to hear. I searched his other threads but didn't find the review. Could you lead/link me to it? And thx for the heads up brokeas240sx

BTW, i think i saw you and your vert at UCI once by the engineering parking structure. You're ride is very nice!

brokeAs240sx · 08-14-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nacho_240

That's good to hear. I searched his other threads but didn't find the review. Could you lead/link me to it? And thx for the heads up brokeas240sx

BTW, i think i saw you and your vert at UCI once by the engineering parking structure. You're ride is very nice!

Yea, that's the one; I rarely drive that car around anymore since I have a daily driver now, haha.

You didn't see my post because it was in a Premium Member thread, so here it is copied out for you:

Received one of Jonnie's (pre-release?) fender braces! Fits perfect chassis-wise. Even works for s13 convertible guys (we have a factory brace) w/ a lil hammering - will leave a small gap where it mounts toward the front, though (no clue if that really affects anything in the long run - a small flat flange or piece of metal should fix that right up). This setup worked great in combination w/ the other front reinforcement parts I got for the car - you can definitely feel it in the turns @ autox.

Only bad thing at all is that aftermarket wide fenders w/ vents will not clear the brace. It looks like this is an issue with pretty much any triangular brace tho:

These fenders were nearly flush before. I don't care much for these fenders anyway, so not a big deal - but others considering buying any kind of fender brace should take this into account.

*Jonnie Fraz* · 08-14-2009, 05:15 PM

Hey buddy thanks for posting up the install pics. I tottally spaced that these were going on a vert, with that extra brace, I could have sent you some spacers to kick them out a bit.

Nacho_240 · 08-15-2009, 03:58 PM

Thx brokeas240sx! So when are these going on sale Jonnie?

MikeisNissan · 08-15-2009, 04:42 PM

no s14 love?

Souljahzs13 · 08-15-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicj

EVERYTHING he said...

triangulate the two and add the sencond bolt to the top brace and I will buy a set!

Can we get a side shot to see the thinckness of the tube size?

I'm with these guys, I also pick up a set just let me know when they are ready

*Jonnie Fraz* · 08-15-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeisNissan

no s14 love?

Check out my web site...

Ask Luke how he likes his set.

And as far as the tubing... it is the weirdest size I could find...lol. It is 1-1/4" by 1/2". This shit is tough...on the S13 braces there is a bend in the lower tube. On the prototypes I did not relief cut the tube. I had to get it red hot to make the bend even with my bender.

nismolism · 08-16-2009, 12:18 AM

im intrested in these forsure

xpertsnowcarver · 08-16-2009, 12:29 AM

I was about to say, give us premie's a discount, but its already a damn good deal. There isn't anything else to say. I'll be PMing you very very soon.

Next thing you should make are C-Pillar and Trunk braces!! GTSpec needs some competition.

Rogue240sx · 08-16-2009, 11:30 PM

Put me down for a Pair. Def want to see the other bar in there too though. Keep up the good fab work!

satal95 · 10-13-2009, 08:27 PM

I'm down for a set since i do have all of your other pieces. Have been waiting for this one for a while now lmk

Rogue240sx · 10-13-2009, 09:50 PM

I'm also patiently waiting for these to be released. Please let us know when you're ready.

xanu8isx · 10-24-2009, 09:46 AM

im interested in the braces all so let me when u start releasing it too.

PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2009, 09:15 PM

I would definitely be in for a pair.

Actually I need to buy all of your braces. Had your tension brace on my first car and loved it.

*Jonnie Fraz* · 10-26-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satal95

I'm down for a set since i do have all of your other pieces. Have been waiting for this one for a while now lmk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue240sx

I'm also patiently waiting for these to be released. Please let us know when you're ready.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanu8isx

im interested in the braces all so let me when u start releasing it too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I would definitely be in for a pair.

Actually I need to buy all of your braces. Had your tension brace on my first car and loved it.

These are avalible! I do have a Preemie member discount as always, just PM me and I will give you the scoop.

winter · 12-11-2009, 12:48 PM

What is the point of a fender brace again? I don't see any really, please enlighten me, great welds btw.

blu808 · 01-10-2010, 04:18 AM

The point of the fender brace is simple. The S chassis have a problem with their lower "frame rails" These are unibody cars, and since the chassis is doesnt actually act as a frame, it relies on just the sheet metal for all the strength. The fender braces fix an issue that our cars have, the lower unibody frame rails end pretty much at the fire wall, and the top of the strut tower which has all the suspended weight is only supported by the upper rail. Which ends at the forward door bulkhead. By connecting the front upper rail and the door mounting points you eliminate a bunch of flex. I run Stealth Custom Fab front strut tower bars, and Fender Braces on my car. They make a huge difference. You would think this opinion is biased. But it is completely true. My car would actually get random understeer and other uncontrollable things before. Even when we ran advan slicks the car felt solid with them. I suggest you guys buy his products. Everything I made here in the USA, and he stands behind his work.

mestizo · 01-12-2010, 08:56 PM

Listen to Luke, he knows what he is talking about!

Also you would think I am biased about Jonnie's parts, but they wouldn't be on my car or any other car for that matter if they didn't actually work.

sleeper108 · 01-12-2010, 11:04 PM

I would definitely order a set, as soon as i acquire funds, and sort out bills

SWAT Team S14 · 02-22-2010, 03:28 PM

Any word on the S14 version?

07-31-2009, 12:01 AM	#1
Jonnie Fraz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Age: 55 Posts: 1,371 Trader Rating: (29) Rides Gallery: Jonnie Fraz Feedback Score: 29 reviews	(Feeler) Stealth-Custom-Fab S13 fender braces Ok boys and girls...I am very close to the release of the S13 fender braces and I want to get a feel for how big they are going to be. I have a couple sets out as a pre-release/ R&D phase. So far the feedback has been great. Here are a few pics. Price will be around $150.00 for a set plus shipping. Tell me what you guys think. Take care Jonnie __________________ Stealth-Custom-Fab.com

07-31-2009, 12:41 PM	#2
Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Have you thought about triangulating the two bars? What about picking up both the upper door hinge bolts instead of just one? The triangulation would add quite a bit of stiffness to the braces. __________________ S13 Hatch - Goes around tracks quickly DEFSPORT

08-01-2009, 07:29 AM	#6
Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	The bottom bar is in tension/bending, the top is in compression bending. Triangulating them keeps the bending component to a minimum. What's the weight on the bars? __________________ S13 Hatch - Goes around tracks quickly DEFSPORT

08-07-2009, 09:37 AM	#8
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I didn't have any issues with taking all 4 of my door bolts off on my S14 when I installed my URAS fender braces. I just did two at a time, and you put them back in loose so you can move the brace enough to take out the other two. The doors stay put even with only a few threads on each of the 4 bolts, haha. Just offering some suggestions. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

08-13-2009, 04:42 PM	#9
Nacho_240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Age: 36 Posts: 310 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	At this price, I would def snatch a set! Will the install be a bolt-on affair? __________________

08-07-2009, 12:06 AM	#7
Pirate_Freder Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Roswell, NM Age: 35 Posts: 515 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I'd take a pair. How far out are these? I also need to get one of your front strut bars and your tension arm brace. BTW, you ever looked at doing a FSTB like rotorimp did where it braces against the firewall? I would love one like that + a master cylinder stopper if you can make one

08-14-2009, 05:15 PM	#13
Jonnie Fraz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Age: 55 Posts: 1,371 Trader Rating: (29) Rides Gallery: Jonnie Fraz Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Hey buddy thanks for posting up the install pics. I tottally spaced that these were going on a vert, with that extra brace, I could have sent you some spacers to kick them out a bit. __________________ Stealth-Custom-Fab.com

08-15-2009, 03:58 PM	#14
Nacho_240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Age: 36 Posts: 310 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	Thx brokeas240sx! So when are these going on sale Jonnie? __________________

08-15-2009, 04:42 PM	#15
MikeisNissan Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Earth, Section 301 Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	no s14 love? __________________ 因果関係の流れ

08-16-2009, 12:18 AM	#18
nismolism Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: "562" Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	im intrested in these forsure

08-16-2009, 12:29 AM	#19
xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	I was about to say, give us premie's a discount, but its already a damn good deal. There isn't anything else to say. I'll be PMing you very very soon. Next thing you should make are C-Pillar and Trunk braces!! GTSpec needs some competition. __________________ My YouTube Channel

08-16-2009, 11:30 PM	#20
Rogue240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, MA Age: 42 Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Rogue240sx Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Put me down for a Pair. Def want to see the other bar in there too though. Keep up the good fab work! __________________ There's not enough hours in the day.

10-13-2009, 08:27 PM	#21
satal95 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sa Posts: 1,512 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	I'm down for a set since i do have all of your other pieces. Have been waiting for this one for a while now lmk __________________ Signature image exceeds allowable size.

10-13-2009, 09:50 PM	#22
Rogue240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, MA Age: 42 Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Rogue240sx Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I'm also patiently waiting for these to be released. Please let us know when you're ready. __________________ There's not enough hours in the day.

10-24-2009, 09:46 AM	#23
xanu8isx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Irwindale Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	im interested in the braces all so let me when u start releasing it too.

10-26-2009, 09:15 PM	#24
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I would definitely be in for a pair. Actually I need to buy all of your braces. Had your tension brace on my first car and loved it. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

12-11-2009, 12:48 PM	#26
winter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 37 Posts: 310 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	What is the point of a fender brace again? I don't see any really, please enlighten me, great welds btw.

01-10-2010, 04:18 AM	#27
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 41 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The point of the fender brace is simple. The S chassis have a problem with their lower "frame rails" These are unibody cars, and since the chassis is doesnt actually act as a frame, it relies on just the sheet metal for all the strength. The fender braces fix an issue that our cars have, the lower unibody frame rails end pretty much at the fire wall, and the top of the strut tower which has all the suspended weight is only supported by the upper rail. Which ends at the forward door bulkhead. By connecting the front upper rail and the door mounting points you eliminate a bunch of flex. I run Stealth Custom Fab front strut tower bars, and Fender Braces on my car. They make a huge difference. You would think this opinion is biased. But it is completely true. My car would actually get random understeer and other uncontrollable things before. Even when we ran advan slicks the car felt solid with them. I suggest you guys buy his products. Everything I made here in the USA, and he stands behind his work. __________________

01-12-2010, 08:56 PM	#28
mestizo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Listen to Luke, he knows what he is talking about! Also you would think I am biased about Jonnie's parts, but they wouldn't be on my car or any other car for that matter if they didn't actually work. __________________ 92 S13 Coupe Track Car

01-12-2010, 11:04 PM	#29
sleeper108 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 34 Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I would definitely order a set, as soon as i acquire funds, and sort out bills

02-22-2010, 03:28 PM	#30
SWAT Team S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dirtee Jerzee Posts: 431 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Any word on the S14 version?