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clark · 08-27-2009, 09:48 AM

i feel like jacking it from the rear like that would put alot of torsional stress on the entire frame/chassis.

i'm just a guy with a lowered/stock bodied s13. i get down on one knee, slide the jack in there, ram the gas tank a little, and before i know it, she's up in the air!

ixfxi · 08-27-2009, 09:50 AM

you guys still talking about this?

you know it adds weight, right? :-) maybe it double functions as a brace..??

hartecorners.com

mehsilvia · 08-27-2009, 11:54 AM

Another idea.

Run a steal plate 5"wide x width of the frame rails.

Then mount this bad-boy to it! right in the center.

- Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

My S13 is apx 12" off the ground where this would mount up under/behind the bumper.

At full jack, that would raise me apx 12-16"

Would be cool to rig it so that you just slip on a power drill to a small rod sticking of your bumper or somethin.

projectRDM · 08-27-2009, 12:13 PM

You know they make 12V scissor jacks, right? One on each side, at the OE jack points, bingo. Car is raised. Takes what, 20 seconds each side? Plus you can carry one in place of the OE scissor jack, the other in the spare tire well. No taking up room, no big, bulky items to carry, no crying about having to use (gasp) your own muscles. Hell, buy four and raise all four corners.

Seriously, if you're at a track event and the extra 5 minutes required to jack the car up is an issue, what type of tracking are you doing? Maybe drifting is different (I wouldn't know, I'm not ghey) but autocross, grip, anything else you have a good 20-30 minutes between runs, and plenty of time before and after to change wheels. If you need to change shit that fast, rent a pit crew.

*DALAZ_68* · 08-27-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Seriously, if you're at a track event and the extra 5 minutes required to jack the car up is an issue, what type of tracking are you doing? Maybe drifting is different (I wouldn't know, I'm not ghey) but autocross, grip, anything else you have a good 20-30 minutes between runs, and plenty of time before and after to change wheels. If you need to change shit that fast, rent a pit crew.

LOL omfg...lol

or say fuck it...spend the 3k and air jack system...and pit crew...if its slower that 15 seconds its free...lol

***FaLKoN240*** · 08-27-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

LOL omfg...lol

or say fuck it...spend the 3k and air jack system...and pit crew...if its slower that 15 seconds its free...lol

...I never said that.

sideways_s14 · 08-28-2009, 03:47 AM

haha, wow, step away from the thread for a few days and come back to 4pages!? I created a monster!

Howlermonkey · 08-28-2009, 10:16 PM

I be a little worried about it removing the empty space between your gas tank and the rear bumper structure.

Anything back there is just a rear ending away from a possible fire.

GSXRJJordan · 08-29-2009, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

you guys still talking about this?

you know it adds weight, right? :-) maybe it double functions as a brace..??

hartecorners.com

LOL!

the reference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howlermonkey

I be a little worried about it removing the empty space between your gas tank and the rear bumper structure.

Anything back there is just a rear ending away from a possible fire.

Not on an S14/S15... fuel tank's above and in front of the differential. Additionally, I think that if S13s tended to ignite when rear-ended, we'd hear more about it... seeing as how everyone seems to have crashed an S13 at some point on this forum. Just sayin.

Howlermonkey · 08-29-2009, 08:40 PM

Forgot about the fuel tank being where it is in the S13.

I was going off a picture of the product that showed it between the tank and bumper reinforcement on some other car.

I used to make custom trailer hitches for Z cars and spent a lot of time making sure that I did not make the car a fire trap.

projectRDM · 08-30-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

LOL!

the reference.

Not on an S14/S15... fuel tank's above and in front of the differential. Additionally, I think that if S13s tended to ignite when rear-ended, we'd hear more about it... seeing as how everyone seems to have crashed an S13 at some point on this forum. Just sayin.

The rear section of the frame rails on S13s are heavily reinforced, They're made to withstand a good bit. That's why a lot of cars you see rearended have the quarter panels buckled instead of the bumper just caving in. It's to protect the tank.

Slip&Sliden 240 · 08-31-2009, 11:13 AM

I made something like this for my car not to long ago. I notched the bumper support and then welded a scrap piece of C-channel to the bottom of it. Then some spare 1.5 dom tubeing and another piece of C-channel for "pad" for the jack to sit on. Kind of crude but it works for me, easier then taking of aero plus using ramps to get a jack under the car.

*DALAZ_68* · 08-31-2009, 11:28 AM

i wonder...can a stock s13 trailer a track s13? ...hmmm

maybe i should put the hight on the coupe and find out...lol

mehsilvia · 08-31-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

i wonder...can a stock s13 trailer a track s13? ...hmmm

maybe i should put the hight on the coupe and find out...lol

Seriously doubt it. Since a trailer has tremendous tongue weight, and all hitches designed for the 240 are simply attached to the rear-bumper support.

Even with a tow bar connected to the front of another S13, it would be too much stress pulling on the trailer hitch (again mounted to the bumper support).

If the trailer hitch could somehow be attached at the frame-rails, like all other trailer hitches, then maybe (still doubt it)

*edit* how freakin cool would it be to have the Daily Vert tow the Track Vert - lol

ixfxi · 08-31-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mehsilvia

Seriously doubt it. Since a trailer has tremendous tongue weight, and all hitches designed for the 240 are simply attached to the rear-bumper support.

Even with a tow bar connected to the front of another S13, it would be too much stress pulling on the trailer hitch (again mounted to the bumper support).

If the trailer hitch could somehow be attached at the frame-rails, like all other trailer hitches, then maybe (still doubt it)

maybe someone should sell a trailer hitch that welds onto your diff

you know, since its like... the strongest part of the s13.

weld-diff-trailer-hitch

awesome

mehsilvia · 08-31-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

maybe someone should sell a trailer hitch that welds onto your diff

you know, since its like... the strongest part of the s13.

weld-diff-trailer-hitch

awesome

LOL - i could just see it. Pics of the rear sub-frame ripped from the car.

Would HAVE to be the frame-rails or nothin. But still aint happenin.

*DALAZ_68* · 08-31-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mehsilvia

*edit* how freakin cool would it be to have the Daily Vert tow the Track Vert - lol

i was thinking the same about the coupe workin for the hatch LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

maybe someone should sell a trailer hitch that welds onto your diff

you know, since its like... the strongest part of the s13.

weld-diff-trailer-hitch

awesome

DO IT!!!! lol

irax · 08-31-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

i wonder...can a stock s13 trailer a track s13? ...hmmm

maybe i should put the hight on the coupe and find out...lol

only way a 240 could tow a 240 would be if you use an RV towing system

like this one

keep all 4 wheels on the ground, and angle it to reduce tounge weight to a minimum

but still it would be kinda lame to do that. the only reason i looked into this system is it would be a cheaper alternative to a full trailer. but hope you don't fuck up your car other wise you will be SOL

TUnity2 · 09-03-2009, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slip&Sliden 240

I made something like this for my car not to long ago. I notched the bumper support and then welded a scrap piece of C-channel to the bottom of it. Then some spare 1.5 dom tubeing and another piece of C-channel for "pad" for the jack to sit on. Kind of crude but it works for me, easier then taking of aero plus using ramps to get a jack under the car.

People this is the right idea. do it, I am.

08-27-2009, 12:13 PM	#94
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 50 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	You know they make 12V scissor jacks, right? One on each side, at the OE jack points, bingo. Car is raised. Takes what, 20 seconds each side? Plus you can carry one in place of the OE scissor jack, the other in the spare tire well. No taking up room, no big, bulky items to carry, no crying about having to use (gasp) your own muscles. Hell, buy four and raise all four corners. Seriously, if you're at a track event and the extra 5 minutes required to jack the car up is an issue, what type of tracking are you doing? Maybe drifting is different (I wouldn't know, I'm not ghey) but autocross, grip, anything else you have a good 20-30 minutes between runs, and plenty of time before and after to change wheels. If you need to change shit that fast, rent a pit crew. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

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08-27-2009, 09:48 AM	#91
clark Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: new york Posts: 1,035 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i feel like jacking it from the rear like that would put alot of torsional stress on the entire frame/chassis. i'm just a guy with a lowered/stock bodied s13. i get down on one knee, slide the jack in there, ram the gas tank a little, and before i know it, she's up in the air!

08-27-2009, 09:50 AM	#92
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 82 Posts: 5,932 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you guys still talking about this? you know it adds weight, right? :-) maybe it double functions as a brace..?? hartecorners.com

08-27-2009, 11:54 AM	#93
mehsilvia Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 48 Posts: 2,642 Trader Rating: (39) Rides Gallery: mehsilvia Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Another idea. Run a steal plate 5"wide x width of the frame rails. Then mount this bad-boy to it! right in the center. - Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices My S13 is apx 12" off the ground where this would mount up under/behind the bumper. At full jack, that would raise me apx 12-16" Would be cool to rig it so that you just slip on a power drill to a small rod sticking of your bumper or somethin.

08-28-2009, 10:16 PM	#98
Howlermonkey Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: west palm Posts: 107 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I be a little worried about it removing the empty space between your gas tank and the rear bumper structure. Anything back there is just a rear ending away from a possible fire.

08-29-2009, 08:40 PM	#100
Howlermonkey Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: west palm Posts: 107 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Forgot about the fuel tank being where it is in the S13. I was going off a picture of the product that showed it between the tank and bumper reinforcement on some other car. I used to make custom trailer hitches for Z cars and spent a lot of time making sure that I did not make the car a fire trap.

08-31-2009, 11:13 AM	#102
Slip&Sliden 240 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington Age: 37 Posts: 237 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I made something like this for my car not to long ago. I notched the bumper support and then welded a scrap piece of C-channel to the bottom of it. Then some spare 1.5 dom tubeing and another piece of C-channel for "pad" for the jack to sit on. Kind of crude but it works for me, easier then taking of aero plus using ramps to get a jack under the car.