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TheSpeedFactor · 05-31-2005, 08:50 AM

nothing is set folks. Remember this is all just brain storm. Once we figure out what all will be included and we get a kit made we can look into pricing but those number were just off the top of my head Guess-timates.

We could make the down pipe to go to the stock cat, that way you can run a test pipe, hi flow cat or anything else and still keep your cat-back.

SR240DET · 05-31-2005, 11:15 AM

if you can do that then that was be great.....

TheSpeedFactor · 05-31-2005, 02:16 PM

tell you what.... what hp do you think we should target? i'm talking on pump gas. Do you guys want a kit to get you into 250-300-350-400-500000189576whp?

kandyflip445 · 05-31-2005, 02:24 PM

Um. Most people will say 300+ but only have money for 250-300.

OptionZero · 05-31-2005, 02:27 PM

250 RWHP for the low level, 350-400 for the next level seems nice. The Greddy kit for $2500-3000 only puts out what, 200rwhp at 6psi?

infinitexsound · 05-31-2005, 02:49 PM

350hp is good.. since we know how much our stock internals can handle thanks to IVAN... ummm honestly id be happy with anything over 250..

Gjohnson7 · 05-31-2005, 03:59 PM

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that your company is definitely planning on producing a ka24det kit. That is, since its posted on the website as "coming soon".

Wei240 · 05-31-2005, 04:03 PM

if you build it, they will come...

250 at the wheels is def good enough for the low/basic level as i'm betting that most people are only willing to pay for this much anyways

and you're planning to make for s13/s14? just some minor differences...

Gjohnson7 · 05-31-2005, 04:07 PM

P.S. and yeah!!! 250 to 300hp sounds good to me.

infinitexsound · 05-31-2005, 05:18 PM

daymn.... this is kinda getting my hopes up... i should calm myself down before i get to over excited...but build it a good kit and they will come....like wei240 said...

TheSpeedFactor · 05-31-2005, 10:17 PM

well we are really considering it. We have seen quite a bit of folks ask for it but we are just afraid that after we put all the time and money into it no one will buy it. Sure we can throw together a bunch of cheap ass parts and sell it but we beleive in quality and the car will preform well when given the right tools to do so and we feel our kits are some of the highest quality tools you will find.

SimpleS14 · 05-31-2005, 10:35 PM

Don't worry, people will buy your kit once quality and overall performance is proven. Best way to do that is thru making a prototype and sharing the progress with this community. IMO

kandyflip445 · 05-31-2005, 11:20 PM

And a group buy would help too.

infinitexsound · 05-31-2005, 11:51 PM

+1 for group buy

SR240DET · 06-01-2005, 12:24 AM

maby you should get in touch with enthalopy (SP) for a ecu tune also.... his shit seems better than JWT and he also uses only s13 ecus with a harness for s14's.. not sure about OBD2 s14's... and i havent heard anything bad from him at all.... anyways... on a good KA with stock internals 250hp is good and 300hp is pushing it... from what i have read in the past 4 years.... so a basic kit for that would be awesome

tiggs · 06-01-2005, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpeedFactor

tell you what.... what hp do you think we should target? i'm talking on pump gas. Do you guys want a kit to get you into 250-300-350-400-500000189576whp?

To be honest, for me my first goal is between 200-250hp. I want to have a fun car to drive. Once I get hooked to boosting, then I'll work on more like building the internals to handle more. I'd like to see a base kit that hits in that hp range, then you could offer cetain upgrades at a higher cost etc.. basically a stage 1..2..3..4..5..100 type scheme ya know?

*Jeff240sx* · 06-01-2005, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR240DET

maby you should get in touch with enthalopy (SP) for a ecu tune also.... his shit seems better than JWT and he also uses only s13 ecus with a harness for s14's.. not sure about OBD2 s14's... and i havent heard anything bad from him at all.... anyways... on a good KA with stock internals 250hp is good and 300hp is pushing it... from what i have read in the past 4 years.... so a basic kit for that would be awesome

350rwhp is good for stock internals. TY did it for ~4 years. 400rwhp is where the ringlands give up.. so the closer you approach 400, the less life your engine has. 350 would be perfectly fine though.
The obd2 -> obd1 harness for s14s is $150 or so, and removes all obd-2 controls, meaning obd2 checks will fail. And his harnesses are backordered. However, it seems to be a better tune. If I didn't need an ecu right now, I'd go to Scott rather than sending my ecu back to JWT.
And it's Enthalpy if you're trying to search for him.
-Jeff

Ritz S14 · 06-01-2005, 10:38 AM

Let me know when these kits are available. I wanna be first in line to order!! I'll even do a writeup and what not

TheSpeedFactor · 06-01-2005, 11:02 AM

guys thanks alot of your time and input. it is greatly asppreciatted.

We probably wouldn't do a group buy because we aren't fans of them. I think they are a drain on the industry and price whoring is really killing a lot of quality manufacturers out there. It's also one of the reasons we have hesitated to offer a kit such as this until now. It seems like people are in more of a hurry to make something cheap and shiney than durable and proven.

We could however offer a intro promo like the first ten get a one time price. Something along those lines.

smellslikecurry · 06-01-2005, 11:16 AM

will you be making kits for sohc?

Gjohnson7 · 06-01-2005, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpeedFactor

We could however offer a intro promo like the first ten get a one time price. Something along those lines.

Well, if that's the case. Get with me and we'll plan the release around one of my bonus checks.

infinitexsound · 06-01-2005, 04:36 PM

ehhhhhhhhhhhh selling to zilvia members in a groupbuy is one of the best things u can do.... word travels fast on this forum next thing u know little first time drivers would want it cause everyone on zilvia has em... and they wanna be a part of the elite.... on zilvia... yah know

AzNCmB · 06-02-2005, 07:47 AM

i'm about to rebuild my motor and in a couple of months, i'll be looking for a good reliable kit that would help me produce 250-300whp. So, I may be in on this too..

TheSpeedFactor · 06-03-2005, 10:22 AM

anyone else have any more input to share?

SimpleS14 · 06-03-2005, 10:35 AM

Right now is the best time to enter the market since Boost Designs has failed miserably. The only options people have for a full kit are GReddy, XS Engineering, N-Sports, and Turbonetics (sorry if I'm missing any others). There's also Phat KA-T...but their prices can steer some people away.

Anywho, good luck.

kandyflip445 · 06-03-2005, 04:30 PM

What's that plate on the #4 runner of the 4g63?

05-31-2005, 08:50 AM	#31
TheSpeedFactor Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Northern Va Age: 42 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nothing is set folks. Remember this is all just brain storm. Once we figure out what all will be included and we get a kit made we can look into pricing but those number were just off the top of my head Guess-timates. We could make the down pipe to go to the stock cat, that way you can run a test pipe, hi flow cat or anything else and still keep your cat-back. __________________

05-31-2005, 02:16 PM	#33
TheSpeedFactor Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Northern Va Age: 42 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tell you what.... what hp do you think we should target? i'm talking on pump gas. Do you guys want a kit to get you into 250-300-350-400-500000189576whp? __________________

05-31-2005, 02:24 PM	#34
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 39 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Um. Most people will say 300+ but only have money for 250-300. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

05-31-2005, 02:49 PM	#36
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	350hp is good.. since we know how much our stock internals can handle thanks to IVAN... ummm honestly id be happy with anything over 250.. __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

05-31-2005, 03:59 PM	#37
Gjohnson7 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Age: 43 Posts: 980 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that your company is definitely planning on producing a ka24det kit. That is, since its posted on the website as "coming soon". __________________ LSX Kouki Project, swap completed in Dec 09

05-31-2005, 11:15 AM	#32
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: orida Posts: 1,490 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you can do that then that was be great.....

05-31-2005, 02:27 PM	#35
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	250 RWHP for the low level, 350-400 for the next level seems nice. The Greddy kit for $2500-3000 only puts out what, 200rwhp at 6psi?

05-31-2005, 04:03 PM	#38
Wei240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you build it, they will come... 250 at the wheels is def good enough for the low/basic level as i'm betting that most people are only willing to pay for this much anyways and you're planning to make for s13/s14? just some minor differences...

05-31-2005, 04:07 PM	#39
Gjohnson7 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Age: 43 Posts: 980 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	P.S. and yeah!!! 250 to 300hp sounds good to me. __________________ LSX Kouki Project, swap completed in Dec 09

05-31-2005, 05:18 PM	#40
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	daymn.... this is kinda getting my hopes up... i should calm myself down before i get to over excited...but build it a good kit and they will come....like wei240 said... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

05-31-2005, 10:17 PM	#41
TheSpeedFactor Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Northern Va Age: 42 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well we are really considering it. We have seen quite a bit of folks ask for it but we are just afraid that after we put all the time and money into it no one will buy it. Sure we can throw together a bunch of cheap ass parts and sell it but we beleive in quality and the car will preform well when given the right tools to do so and we feel our kits are some of the highest quality tools you will find. __________________

05-31-2005, 10:35 PM	#42
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 40 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't worry, people will buy your kit once quality and overall performance is proven. Best way to do that is thru making a prototype and sharing the progress with this community. IMO

05-31-2005, 11:20 PM	#43
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 39 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	And a group buy would help too. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

05-31-2005, 11:51 PM	#44
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	+1 for group buy __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-01-2005, 12:24 AM	#45
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: orida Posts: 1,490 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	maby you should get in touch with enthalopy (SP) for a ecu tune also.... his shit seems better than JWT and he also uses only s13 ecus with a harness for s14's.. not sure about OBD2 s14's... and i havent heard anything bad from him at all.... anyways... on a good KA with stock internals 250hp is good and 300hp is pushing it... from what i have read in the past 4 years.... so a basic kit for that would be awesome

06-01-2005, 10:38 AM	#48
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 42 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Let me know when these kits are available. I wanna be first in line to order!! I'll even do a writeup and what not

06-01-2005, 11:02 AM	#49
TheSpeedFactor Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Northern Va Age: 42 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	guys thanks alot of your time and input. it is greatly asppreciatted. We probably wouldn't do a group buy because we aren't fans of them. I think they are a drain on the industry and price whoring is really killing a lot of quality manufacturers out there. It's also one of the reasons we have hesitated to offer a kit such as this until now. It seems like people are in more of a hurry to make something cheap and shiney than durable and proven. We could however offer a intro promo like the first ten get a one time price. Something along those lines. __________________

06-01-2005, 11:16 AM	#50
smellslikecurry Post Whore! Join Date: May 2003 Location: bangladesh Age: 37 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	will you be making kits for sohc?

06-01-2005, 04:36 PM	#52
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ehhhhhhhhhhhh selling to zilvia members in a groupbuy is one of the best things u can do.... word travels fast on this forum next thing u know little first time drivers would want it cause everyone on zilvia has em... and they wanna be a part of the elite.... on zilvia... yah know __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-02-2005, 07:47 AM	#53
AzNCmB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 39 Posts: 1,144 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i'm about to rebuild my motor and in a couple of months, i'll be looking for a good reliable kit that would help me produce 250-300whp. So, I may be in on this too..

06-03-2005, 10:22 AM	#54
TheSpeedFactor Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Northern Va Age: 42 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	anyone else have any more input to share? __________________

06-03-2005, 10:35 AM	#55
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 40 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Right now is the best time to enter the market since Boost Designs has failed miserably. The only options people have for a full kit are GReddy, XS Engineering, N-Sports, and Turbonetics (sorry if I'm missing any others). There's also Phat KA-T...but their prices can steer some people away. Anywho, good luck.

06-03-2005, 04:30 PM	#56
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 39 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What's that plate on the #4 runner of the 4g63? __________________ My 240 vBgarage