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Old 07-22-2010, 05:24 PM   #31
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Just to nit-pick a little bit, I hate when it is called re-barreling and people get new lips. Technically it is all a barrel but I prefer to call the outside portion a lip and the inside portion a barrel.
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looks great dude..good job..
on your post, i somewhat agree,
re barreling-re-lipping.and just switching lips should be 3 different things.
re-lipping sounds more like cutting and welding in a new lip. and changing lips is what you did.
I called up Eric, (thanks to the guy who posted before with his info)
I had the front wheels repaired but the rear Weds Kranze rapiers, are causing me some serious drama, (LAX wheel repair) straightened one lip out and relipped the other so now one is shorter than the other..WTF?? and the one that was straightened out is all crinkly??wtf again..
so i gave them a cease and desist and i told him i was gonna take therear wheels away and just take them to ERic's shop and he said he has a new 6.5" lip he could just cut and wled in. I am hoping to have an effective 7-8 inch lip when he is done.
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:19 PM   #32
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That should be insane looking!


I should be getting my other RS faces back from the machine shop tomorrow, so I will be ordering powder and getting them blasted so I can put the new set together! I'll only have 4.5" lips, but I believe that's the biggest BBS RS lip that's out there (aside from people polishing up other barrels and putting them on as lips, haha!).
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is there anyway we can get some shop prices...like if I had a 18 inch wheel...and wanted to make it "x" times wider, it is going to cost "x" dollars. from the face, or the backside of the rim. (adding more lip/ more backspacing)

That way we get an estimated price...
What are turn around times?....
what should we look at when shopping a shop that does this?.....
anyone have problems with their widening?.....
what are the general problems....(balancing, mounting, etc)
can you add lips to wheels that don't have one already (example rotap45..adding a lip?)

I mean...im one that knows nothing about this...so any question and all questions might be asked in here...can we make this a example/ fact only thread...
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I had new lips made for my panasports by this company in germany: Pertsch & Partner Onlineshop

They started off as 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 and pretty poor offsets.



After swapping the rear lips to the front and having new lips made for the rear I ended up with with a 9j for the front and a 10.5 et3 on the rear.







I think the total price was something like £280 (about $430 with our poor exchange rate at the moment) delivered to Scotland for a pair of 3" lips.
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:56 PM   #38
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who relips wheels? got vs-xx 18x9 (2) , and 18x10 (2) all plus 30 offset with small lips. I want to have maximum lip and lower offset while staying the same width. how am i able to achieve that goal?
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who relips wheels? got vs-xx 18x9 (2) , and 18x10 (2) all plus 30 offset with small lips. I want to have maximum lip and lower offset while staying the same width. how am i able to achieve that goal?
read back in the thread a bit, some one posted about 3 shops who do it.
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thanks much, im leaning towards eric vauhn...
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thanks much, im leaning towards eric vauhn...
I recommend him, thats where my wheels are right now.
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This is awesome thread... wonder if there is any shop in OR would do that....
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Got a pair of the faces back from powder coating. When I get the center caps I'll take some pictures out in the sun.








I hand cleaned the bolts for that wheel with a wire brush and sanded down the part on the face that meets with the lip and barrel. I am starting to remember how time consuming and annoying it is to take wheels apart and rebuild them. I know it is worth it though!
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^where did u get ur lips?... I need help finding some 2.5/3inch lips for my rs's.. also whats the best way to clean the bolts and the nuts?
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^where did u get ur lips?... I need help finding some 2.5/3inch lips for my rs's.. also whats the best way to clean the bolts and the nuts?
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polished wheel lips shells rims dishes BBS 3x17 RS RF : eBay Motors (item 150092627962 end time Aug-28-10 16:42:54 PDT)



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polished wheel lips shells rims dishes BBS 2.5x17 RS RF: eBay Motors (item 150295750075 end time Sep-07-10 09:40:38 PDT)


That's the guy I went through, but he had to make mine since he doesn't make 4.5" lips.



The bolts I have are chrome bolts so I didn't have to clean them on the outside. I just used one of those table mounted grinding wheel things with a wire brush on it to get the old lock tight and sealant out of the threads.
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dont do anything else to those wheels. They look perfect!!!
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Thanks 95KA-Turbo.. what were ur original specs and the final ones? also what sealants u use to put em back together?
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My original ones were 17X7/8 +45/50 and after the 3.5" lips they were 17X10/11 +7/+12.

Now I am running 17X7 +45 all around, I had 5mm shaved off the back of a pair of them and am running 4.5" lips out back. So the sizes are 17X10/11 +7/-1. I have to run a 15mm spacer up front to get full use of my knuckles, so it'll be 10 -8. I am using the four 17X11 +12s as drift spares, and if I get enough grip from the 11 -1s with 245s I'll slide on them too, haha.
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this is pretty cool,
i might try to get my work euroline sl's widened or something.
could use a little more lippage!
95KA-Turbo- those wheels look good bro!
GabeS14- post picks of those 7'' lips when those wheels are done yo!
those wheels going on the s14?
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this is pretty cool,
i might try to get my work euroline sl's widened or something.
could use a little more lippage!
95KA-Turbo- those wheels look good bro!
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those wheels going on the s14?
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YES!

THIS THREAD IS THE G.O.A.T.

Im going to that spot in Burlington. I need my Hasemis widened.
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For anyone who has done this already. What would be cheaper. Getting a new lip made or having the lip widened? (Not including powder coat and stuff, that will be done either way.)

Is there anyone on the east coast that makes lips?
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I think not to many companies in us have lips. Few shops do but they are not cheap and also rare if u want more than 4 inch lips. Might have to get em custom made
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Buying full lips 4-5" cost about $400-$500 a lip
Welding and widenning costs about $200-$300 a rim, tey have to be polished after welding though.


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Man I want to know whats the limit on how much and what kind of rims can be widen
Just curious on what are the pros and cons of doing this kind of widening if you consider a one forged rim because I have a really sweet deal on some WORKS MEISTER S1 2P
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Got the rear pair bolted up and sealed tonight (thanks for the help Andrew!)









It takes approx. 20 mins to clean all of the bolts for one wheel (34) with a wire wheel, and it took a couple of hours to get these bolted together properly and sealed up.
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