Wheel Fitment Question Thread

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by ghoti

Caliper overhang?

Rim face design. Having low offset wont do any good when the face is flat and has no depth compared to the mounting pad. Work has 3 different faces for each of their wheels to compensate for brake clearance. You have O-disk (least brake clearance but most rim lip afforded), A-disk (standard) and R-disk (most brake clearance, but smaller rim lip).

You can run 0 offset O-disk but you'd still have brake clearance issue and will need 12-15mm spacers to clear Z32/R32/33 brakes. If you run the R-disk, itll clear even Brembos upfront. Rears, O-disk will clear Z32/R32/33 brakes by a cunt hair (literally).

[blockedwizard]

^Makes alot more sense now thank u

[Turbo Nismo]

Gramlights 57DR 18x9.5" 225/40 & 18x10.5" 235/40 +12 offset all around. I nees to get better pics and lower it more and adjust camber.

[fliprayzin240sx]

^^^Wrong thread bud...

[koyv90]

Okay So i have an s13 and it does not have coils i will plan to get some and drop it a inch or maybe a little more. This is my dd. I do not want it slammed to the floor or hella flushed. I want it to the rim to be flush with the fender however. I was thinking 17x8 or 17x8.5 or 17x9. I don't want staggered rims or anything really( i heard it does not matter for performance and is a look thing). What offsets should i be getting to clear brakes and coilovers? I would rather not have to roll my fenders.

Also id prefer a none sunken in look


The front rim here is perfect but the rear one is sunken in and has a concaved look(guessing due to negative camber).

I dont know lots really cause ive searched and get random answers like people said +35 offsets and stuff are gay honda ones and bad for RWD cars and then others say they are good and work on s13s perfect with no modification and then i see others wanting like +20 or +10 offsets. I do get how it creates rubbing but dont know enough about the s13 chassis.

Thanks for the answers in advance sorry if my question is dumb.

[ME GUSTA]

Your car will not look anything close to that with the drop you are trying to get. You dont wanna roll fenders either.

In that picture, the rear is probably flush, the fender is just tucking more tire + camber.

If it's your dd, leave it stock. Sitting 4x4 status with whack fitment is just gonna draw negative attention.

If you're willing to do some fender work (roll) and drop a little more. Then come back.

If you plan to continue anyway, I suggest buying the coilovers and getting them installed first. And see how low you can comfortably get the car.

[Turbo Nismo]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

^^^Wrong thread bud...

Sorry bro. I posted it here because I used this thread asking for this fitment because I though they weren't going to fit. But they did and I didn't need to pull fenders. Just a slight roll on rears only.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by koyv90

Okay So i have an s13 and it does not have coils i will plan to get some and drop it a inch or maybe a little more. This is my dd. I do not want it slammed to the floor or hella flushed. I want it to the rim to be flush with the fender however. I was thinking 17x8 or 17x8.5 or 17x9. I don't want staggered rims or anything really( i heard it does not matter for performance and is a look thing). What offsets should i be getting to clear brakes and coilovers? I would rather not have to roll my fenders.

Also id prefer a none sunken in look


The front rim here is perfect but the rear one is sunken in and has a concaved look(guessing due to negative camber).

I dont know lots really cause ive searched and get random answers like people said +35 offsets and stuff are gay honda ones and bad for RWD cars and then others say they are good and work on s13s perfect with no modification and then i see others wanting like +20 or +10 offsets. I do get how it creates rubbing but dont know enough about the s13 chassis.

Thanks for the answers in advance sorry if my question is dumb.

Originally Posted by ME GUSTA

Your car will not look anything close to that with the drop you are trying to get. You dont wanna roll fenders either.

In that picture, the rear is probably flush, the fender is just tucking more tire + camber.

If it's your dd, leave it stock. Sitting 4x4 status with whack fitment is just gonna draw negative attention.

If you're willing to do some fender work (roll) and drop a little more. Then come back.

If you plan to continue anyway, I suggest buying the coilovers and getting them installed first. And see how low you can comfortably get the car.

Biggest problem here is that you're using a modded body for a reference, when your goal is to leave the car as stock as possible. My suggestion is look around for pictures of S13s running stock R33/34 GTR wheels. If you like how they look without spacers, thats a good starting point for you (17/18x9 +30) and adjust accordingly.

[punxva]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Rim face design. Having low offset wont do any good when the face is flat and has no depth compared to the mounting pad. Work has 3 different faces for each of their wheels to compensate for brake clearance. You have O-disk (least brake clearance but most rim lip afforded), A-disk (standard) and R-disk (most brake clearance, but smaller rim lip).

You can run 0 offset O-disk but you'd still have brake clearance issue and will need 12-15mm spacers to clear Z32/R32/33 brakes. If you run the R-disk, itll clear even Brembos upfront. Rears, O-disk will clear Z32/R32/33 brakes by a cunt hair (literally).

to add to this on my meisters on my s13 i have 18x9 +18 O-disk up front with z brakes and i had to throw on a 5 mm slip on to clear the brakes

[koyv90]

Originally Posted by ME GUSTA

Your car will not look anything close to that with the drop you are trying to get. You dont wanna roll fenders either.

In that picture, the rear is probably flush, the fender is just tucking more tire + camber.

If it's your dd, leave it stock. Sitting 4x4 status with whack fitment is just gonna draw negative attention.

If you're willing to do some fender work (roll) and drop a little more. Then come back.

If you plan to continue anyway, I suggest buying the coilovers and getting them installed first. And see how low you can comfortably get the car.

searching around more i guess i would be willing to roll the fenders. On the dropping thing; well this is going to be my first experience dropping an S13( I had an rsx before this) so I don't know how much of a drop i would want yet.


But now im even more confused cause this guy is running 17x8 +35 and it looks good but he said he has spacers(23mm) and it makes it +12? So why wouldn't he just get +12 offset to begin with?

[zooopreme]

You will not achieve any type of lowness with an inch drop.

If you have stock brakes, brake clearance is not of your worries. Ever.

You will not achieve any type of "fitment" with those sizes if you don't want to modify your fenders.

FN's in 8" didn't come with +12.

[ME GUSTA]

Rolling fenders shouldn't cost more than $30-40 a fender.

Since you don't know how much of a drop you want, I recommend you get the coilovers first and see.

[h2v7]

i got a nice roll and pull and had 17x9 +15 they fit very flush


now im getting 17x10 +20 all around

will i need any spacers to clear coils or anything?

thanks!


s13 by the way with coils lowered and lots of front and rear camber

[beems240sx]

Wheels: Work VSKF burning black
car: origin type2 widebody S14 w/300zx brakes
size:18x9.5 +7 A Disk 18x10.5 -12 O Disk

trying to see if these will clear the front calipers and what tire sizes to run. im not about crazy stretch, maybe a little bit. im putting down a good amount of power on a built sr with a precission 5558. its a drift car. i was thinking 265/35r18 rear and maybe 245/40r18 front? or 245/35r18?

[pitesy]

Quick question regarding S14's:

- 17x9 et0 all around, 225/45 tyres all around
- Low, but not crazily (I mean some tire tuck in the rear, flush tire in the front)
- Stock body
- Alignment (in degrees and minutes): Front: 2'50" camber, 7'50" caster, 0 toe. Rear: 1'10" camber, 0 toe. (not willing to change this, I'd rather modify the fenders to fit)

What kind of fender work I need? I assume a front roll and rear roll with a bit of pull.

Thanks in advance!

Regards
István

[Asil]

Like the TE37's on S14's.
I would not like to roll my fenders.
I like to see the depth at rear wheels (concaved look).
What you guys recommend about size? I really like the look of S13 on the above photos.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by h2v7

i got a nice roll and pull and had 17x9 +15 they fit very flush
now im getting 17x10 +20 all around
will i need any spacers to clear coils or anything?

thanks!

s13 by the way with coils lowered and lots of front and rear camber

All depends on what coilover and how low you're gonna be. Only way to really know how much is putting the fronts on.

Originally Posted by beems240sx

Wheels: Work VSKF burning black
car: origin type2 widebody S14 w/300zx brakes
size:18x9.5 +7 A Disk 18x10.5 -12 O Disk

trying to see if these will clear the front calipers and what tire sizes to run. im not about crazy stretch, maybe a little bit. im putting down a good amount of power on a built sr with a precission 5558. its a drift car. i was thinking 265/35r18 rear and maybe 245/40r18 front? or 245/35r18?

Run some 225/40-18 Dunlop Star Specs up front and you wont need anything wider. If you insist on 245, go 245/35s, 40 series will be HUUUUGE. Fronts A-disk should clear stock brakes, if you're running Z32 brakes, you'll need some spacers.

Originally Posted by pitesy

Quick question regarding S14's:

- 17x9 et0 all around, 225/45 tyres all around
- Low, but not crazily (I mean some tire tuck in the rear, flush tire in the front)
- Stock body
- Alignment (in degrees and minutes): Front: 2'50" camber, 7'50" caster, 0 toe. Rear: 1'10" camber, 0 toe. (not willing to change this, I'd rather modify the fenders to fit)

What kind of fender work I need? I assume a front roll and rear roll with a bit of pull.

Thanks in advance!

Regards
István

Itll be easy to fit...just a roll will be more than enough...

[InsTanCeZ]

S14 question:
with a roll only, no pull on stock body
how will this fit?

F: 17x9 -1, 215/40r17 -5 camber (should I go more aggressive than -1 offset?)
R: 18x10 +12, 215/40r18 to 235/40r18 -2 camber (again, should I go more aggressive with the offsets?)

I'm looking for perfect flushness and I've decided on these offsets, what do you guys think?

Thanks

P.S. I think I will just roll my fender lips with a hammer because I don't see why I should pay for it, is that a bad idea? lol

[grimm199]

^If you want your fenders to look like lasagne, then go for it. Beat it out with a hammer.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by grimm199

^If you want your fenders to look like lasagne, then go for it. Beat it out with a hammer.

Its actually better to pull fenders with hammers than a roller. If you take your time and you're patient, hammering gets better results. I got a roller and I stopped using the damn thing a long time ago...

Besides, you pull the fenders too much with a roller, itll definitely look like lasagna...

[pitesy]

Thanks a lot fliprayzin240sx! I was hoping it won't be a big job to fit them...

[grimm199]

Hmm guess I've never really looked into that way of pulling.
But anyways, I'm needing this for my friend. Not sure if you would know for sure, but it's for a G.
It's an '06 G35 Coupe
He's on stock suspension but he'll be slamming it in another 6 months or so.
But he's wanting for the fronts 19x8.5 +35 and the rears 19x9.5 +35. Will he be able to run them or will he need spacers?

[fliprayzin240sx]

I'm not 100% versed on G35s/350z but from what I've seen, they have a lot of room, more than S14s. Those are fucking pathetic. Have him look into rimtuck.com and get an idea in there. Remember tho, you lower those cars, its not just a matter of coilovers, he'd need to upgrade alot more than that if he wants his alignment to be back to spec.

http://www.rimtuck.com/search/thumbn...odel=G35+coupe

[zooopreme]

Can anybody give me an idea on what the specs are on these Gramlights could be? I know they're 17's (215/45/17). I need width & offset.

[koyv90]

Ok so im back with a more proper idea of what i want. So i got k sport coil overs and im going to do around a 2 inch drop. My fenders have been rolled.

I want to know what rim offset i should get and i'm going to get Gramlights 57d's in 17x9. Should i get the +12 +22 or +38?

I want to have a normal daily driving car that I can also do drift and auto x with. I want it to be performance no hella flush gay shit so not too much negative camber. (Side note i also don't like my wheels looking that sunken in(concave) or the negative camber look that much) for this reason i thought +12 would be fine because its not to positive and with negative camber it wouldn't be to bad sunken in?

Thanks for your inputs!

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by koyv90

Ok so im back with a more proper idea of what i want. So i got k sport coil overs and im going to do around a 2 inch drop. My fenders have been rolled.

I want to know what rim offset i should get and i'm going to get Gramlights 57d's in 17x9. Should i get the +12 +22 or +38?

I want to have a normal daily driving car that I can also do drift and auto x with. I want it to be performance no hella flush gay shit so not too much negative camber. (Side note i also don't like my wheels looking that sunken in(concave) or the negative camber look that much) for this reason i thought +12 would be fine because its not to positive and with negative camber it wouldn't be to bad sunken in?

Thanks for your inputs!

I'm going to assume this is for S13 since you didn't say anything.

+12 is a nice sice.
+22 will fit and won't be "hella flush ghey shit"
+38 will require small spacers so it won't rub.

FWIW, +12 fits well for looks and performance. Lots of people run it with more than a 2" drop. But with your intended drop, your car will look like donkey balls. Sure, it'll be "function over form" (if you get a proper alignment) but with today's suspension out in the market, people can have their cars mad low and still perform at the track.

+12 It does sit flush and will require camber but you can always align your car/mod your fenders to be functional if you go lower than 2".

Just because a car looks a certain way doesn't mean there can't be a functional side of it.

And bumping my question:

Originally Posted by zooopreme

Can anybody give me an idea on what the specs are on these Gramlights could be? I know they're 17's (215/45/17). I need width & offset.

[koyv90]

Originally Posted by zooopreme

I'm going to assume this is for S13 since you didn't say anything.

+12 is a nice sice.
+22 will fit and won't be "hella flush ghey shit"
+38 will require small spacers so it won't rub.

FWIW, +12 fits well for looks and performance. Lots of people run it with more than a 2" drop. But with your intended drop, your car will look like donkey balls. Sure, it'll be "function over form" (if you get a proper alignment) but with today's suspension out in the market, people can have their cars mad low and still perform at the track.

+12 It does sit flush and will require camber but you can always align your car/mod your fenders to be functional if you go lower than 2".

Just because a car looks a certain way doesn't mean there can't be a functional side of it.

And bumping my question:

my bad an s13. Also why is 2 inches not a good enough of drop? I haven't found any pictures of drop and their lowering rates.

And what would be the differences in looks/camber needed and stuff of the +12 or +22? You seem to be recommending the +12 cause it will look better if i ever decide to go lower? is that right? Thanks for response!

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by koyv90

my bad an s13. Also why is 2 inches not a good enough of drop? I haven't found any pictures of drop and their lowering rates.

And what would be the differences in looks/camber needed and stuff of the +12 or +22? You seem to be recommending the +12 cause it will look better if i ever decide to go lower? is that right? Thanks for response!

See that picture that I'm trying to get info on. About .5 of an inch more and that's your 2" drop. Doesn't look like much, does it?

Ksports can lower the car plenty. Don't even worry about it. Heck, Damon (CamryonBronze) ran them for a while and went lower than 2"

Anyway, not 100% on how much drop this person has but I'm sure the lower mount isn't bottomed out. The FRONTS are the only 9" +12, the rears are not the same specs.



See that donkey ball horseshit you've got going on there (in terms of wheel fitment)?

Now let's see something with a better drop:




Even the rears look sweet.

What I meant to say about +22 is that it's conservative for S13's. You won't have to stretch your tires as much. And since you have rolled your fenders already, you should be fine running it.

[koyv90]

Originally Posted by zooopreme

See that picture that I'm trying to get info on. About .5 of an inch more and that's your 2" drop. Doesn't look like much, does it?

Ksports can lower the car plenty. Don't even worry about it. Heck, Damon (CamryonBronze) ran them for a while and went lower than 2"

Anyway, not 100% on how much drop this person has but I'm sure the lower mount isn't bottomed out. The FRONTS are the only 9" +12, the rears are not the same specs.



See that donkey ball horseshit you've got going on there (in terms of wheel fitment)?

Now let's see something with a better drop:




Even the rears look sweet.

What I meant to say about +22 is that it's conservative for S13's. You won't have to stretch your tires as much. And since you have rolled your fenders already, you should be fine running it.

Thanks man i like the first one you linked the +12 offset. But yea your right it would need more of a drop haha. I like to be little to no gap so i get what your saying.

[Eazy_tom]

Stock body s14, would it be hard to tuck 18 x 10 1/2 +15 ?
I'm guessing I'll need a pull.