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TurDz · 04-01-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

s14srpilot - You've proved your point well enough....

actually, he hasn't. Where's the actual evidence? he's basing everything he knows on the stuff he's learned on this forum. which i must say is sometimes inaccurate and heresay.

I can't believe I'm doing this, but for the sake of ACCURACY, here's some shots of my catalog from japan:

so pleeease...stop debate on something soo stupid.

"I love S14!!"

*revat619* · 04-01-2005, 12:24 PM

Thank you TurDz!!

I knew somebody had a pic of it somewhere!

samms95s14se · 04-01-2005, 12:33 PM

On the second pic the front bumper and the side skirts dont even seem to match!

ge0man · 04-01-2005, 01:09 PM

zenki love.. :-)

s14srpilot · 04-01-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TurDz

actually, he hasn't. Where's the actual evidence? he's basing everything he knows on the stuff he's learned on this forum. which i must say is sometimes inaccurate and heresay.

so pleeease...stop debate on something soo stupid.

"I love S14!!"

Inaccurate and hearsay? Son you better get your facts straight. All you have proven is that those side skirts will fit on a kouki s14. They were still designed BEFORE the kouki came out.

FYI There is ALSO a brochure of the zenki s14 with that kit that was printed BEFORE the kouki came out. I didn't post it because I don't have it but they are sold on ebay. Why didn't you post it?

They FIRST came out on the zenki s14 catalog and AGAIN that is why I call them ZENKI side skirts.

SimpleS14 · 04-01-2005, 02:51 PM

Turdz - I just made that post because I was annoyed with this arguement. lol BTW....can you get me the front lip and headlights? Have you noticed the headlights do not have the fluted design like the USDM headlights?

s14srpilot - Why do you have a Kouki in your sig?

s14srpilot · 04-01-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Turdz - I just made that post because I was annoyed with this arguement. lol BTW....can you get me the front lip and headlights? Have you noticed the headlights do not have the fluted design like the USDM headlights?

s14srpilot - Why do you have a Kouki in your sig?

I like the picture. Do I need a reason? If I could find a zenki one I'd rock it.

SimpleS14 · 04-01-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by s14srpilot

I like the picture. Do I need a reason? If I could find a zenki one I'd rock it.

The reason is because you like it.....but the text in your sig reads "My Zenki".

BlackSilvia96 · 04-01-2005, 07:54 PM

PWNED!! Hahahaah....sorry I just wanted to say that.....

ghostuss · 04-01-2005, 08:22 PM

Hate kouki sideskirt.... Love zenki aero sideskirt...

Love zenki or kouki tail lights but I would not spend 300 dollar for kouki tail lights only if you are totally converting to kouki. Zenki needs to stay with zenki tail lights. They ain't bad looking anywayz.

s14srpilot · 04-01-2005, 11:34 PM

pwned my ass. I was trying to show some love for kouki's by rocking a picture of one in my sig but since some of you wanna be fucking assholes about it...

Gladman · 04-03-2005, 04:50 AM

I own an s13 so im not biased. Kouki is way better looking, if you disagree its probably because you own a zenki

Ritz S14 · 04-03-2005, 04:56 AM

Seriously. Koukis are nice, but I doubt I'd ever trade my zenki for a kouki. Just giving you kouki owners a hard time.

Gladman · 04-03-2005, 04:58 AM

Pls refer to the photo of the camry

samms95s14se · 04-03-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Gladman

Pls refer to the photo of the camry

Hey Jordan!! Trip out.... It's samms88lude from preludepower.com if you can remember me and digitalsaint2050 bought your cold air intkes, strut bars and short shifters and they are still working good!

Also the more I look at kouki's now the more I notice that the front really dosen't match all that well with the rest of the body from a front/sideview so NO kouki conversion for me!!

OptionZero · 04-03-2005, 12:20 PM

In 1997, if I walk up to a Nissan dealership and order the full optional aero package, do they tell me I"m getting "zenki" side skirts?

The analogy with taillights is not accurate- you cannot buy a Zenki from the factory with kouki taillights. The kouki tail lights ONLY come from kouki s14's; they *fit* on any s14, but they COME from only one source.

If I walk into a Japanese junk yard and find a junked s14 kouki with the FULL AERO PACKAGE, and I remove the sideskirts, am I holding KOUKI sideskirts? am I holding ZENKI side skirts?

No sir.

I am holding s14 optional aero side skirts. Not Zenki. Why is it so important for you to "claim" them as if they are some sort of exclusive item for the zenki?

Nissan sold s14 koukis from the factory with your so-called zenki skirts! I think that takes away all the zenki-ness right there!

jeez

roo · 04-03-2005, 02:45 PM

zenki....plus kouki?

Doriftomodachi · 04-03-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

In 1997, if I walk up to a Nissan dealership and order the full optional aero package, do they tell me I"m getting "zenki" side skirts?

If it's a dealership in the United States the dealer won't know what the hell you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

The analogy with taillights is not accurate- you cannot buy a Zenki from the factory with kouki taillights. The kouki tail lights ONLY come from kouki s14's; they *fit* on any s14, but they COME from only one source.

Read what you wrote. You are correct that you cannot buy a zenki model with kouki tail lights. I never said that you can. That is why zenki tail lights and kouki tail lights are called what they are and my analogy is spot on.

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

If I walk into a Japanese junk yard and find a junked s14 kouki with the FULL AERO PACKAGE, and I remove the sideskirts, am I holding KOUKI sideskirts? am I holding ZENKI side skirts?

No sir

You are buying side skirts that were designed BEFORE the kouki came out. You are buying early model side skirts (interesting, what's the word for early model...zenki???) and NOT the newer design side skirts (um...kouki?)

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I am holding s14 optional aero side skirts designed BEFORE the kouki.

Yes you are holding the s14 optional aero side skirts designed BEFORE the kouki, ie. ZENKI side skirts...What a concept! ZENKI SIDE SKIRTS !

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Why is it so important for you to "claim" them as if they are some sort of exclusive item for the zenki?

I never "claimed" anything. I just said that I call them ZENKI side skirts. You can whine about it all you want. There is no FORMAL name for them. Here's a clue:THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY. I will always call them zenki side skirts.

Besides, i think it makes it easier to understand what skirts I am talking about.

Oops this is my other sn. I had better change my signature picture before I get "pwned" :ghey:

TurDz · 04-03-2005, 04:32 PM

iirc, aren't you the guy who bought used kei offices?

anyway, i can't believe this whole thread has turned into why side skirts are called what they are. as i said before, "i love s14!!"

Doriftomodachi · 04-03-2005, 05:12 PM

What does buying used kei office coilovers have to do with zenki side skirts?

SimpleS14 · 04-03-2005, 07:13 PM

s14srpilot and Doriftomodachi the same person...or just share the same sig pic?

I read the previous posts...and I'm done with the random off-topic posts. Lets just call the side skirts whatever we want and like ALL S14s.

aznpoopy · 04-03-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Lets just call the side skirts whatever we want and like ALL S14s.

agreed...

c'mon guys, it's not really worth arguing over.

m0rex · 04-03-2005, 09:04 PM

Stop jacking the damn thread atleast. BTW: i once went to my local Nissan dealer and asked them if they could sell me a S15 headlight then i realized this wasent japan.

SilviaDriver · 04-03-2005, 09:11 PM

not another "s14b vs s14a" type of argument

one person claims they are "zenki" skirts only name

the other is claiming they dont have a name rather "optional"

call them watever the fuck you want, as long as you know wth you are tlakin about

ALTRNTV · 04-03-2005, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by s14srpilot

Here's a real life example haha:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=76054

WTB: S14 Sideskirts

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm looking for some sideskirts for my s14. Please no OEM Kouki sides. Color will not matter. Locals first please.

Located in So Cal, Oxnard.

Haha, that's my WTB ad.

ALTRNTV · 04-03-2005, 09:22 PM

And to all of you, can't we all just get along? =D

HyperTek · 04-03-2005, 09:30 PM

u know whats gay,, every black kouki s14 ends up looking the same once people start putting body kits on...

m0rex · 04-03-2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

u know whats gay,, every black kouki s14 ends up looking the same once people start putting body kits on...

Thats soo true its not even funny.

SimpleS14 · 04-03-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SilviaDriver

not another "s14b vs s14a" type of argument

one person claims they are "zenki" skirts only name

the other is claiming they dont have a name rather "optional"

call them watever the fuck you want, as long as you know wth you are tlakin about

but its annoying when people type "s14b"........

SilviaDriver · 04-03-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

but its annoying when people type "s14b"........

but its annoying people are arguing over side skirts to call it this or that

04-01-2005, 12:24 PM	#92
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04-01-2005, 12:33 PM	#93
samms95s14se Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Imperial Beach/San Diego Posts: 296 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On the second pic the front bumper and the side skirts dont even seem to match! __________________

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ge0man Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 38 Posts: 61 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	zenki love.. :-) __________________ Black 1995 240sx - T3/T4 KA-T based system -

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BlackSilvia96 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 228 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	PWNED!! Hahahaah....sorry I just wanted to say that..... __________________

04-01-2005, 08:22 PM	#100
ghostuss Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego/San Francisco Age: 38 Posts: 1,337 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hate kouki sideskirt.... Love zenki aero sideskirt... Love zenki or kouki tail lights but I would not spend 300 dollar for kouki tail lights only if you are totally converting to kouki. Zenki needs to stay with zenki tail lights. They ain't bad looking anywayz. __________________ 96 all suspension s14 SOLD 90 s13 coupe - SOLD Currently rocking 2002 BMW M3 w/ custom suspension. ButtonWillow, CA entire circuit drift/grip event by shock drifting spot for sale. Take over my spot for $150 only.

04-01-2005, 02:51 PM	#96
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 40 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Turdz - I just made that post because I was annoyed with this arguement. lol BTW....can you get me the front lip and headlights? Have you noticed the headlights do not have the fluted design like the USDM headlights? s14srpilot - Why do you have a Kouki in your sig?

04-01-2005, 11:34 PM	#101
s14srpilot BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern CA Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	pwned my ass. I was trying to show some love for kouki's by rocking a picture of one in my sig but since some of you wanna be fucking assholes about it... Last edited by s14srpilot; 04-02-2005 at 12:13 AM..

04-03-2005, 04:50 AM	#102
Gladman Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver Age: 38 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I own an s13 so im not biased. Kouki is way better looking, if you disagree its probably because you own a zenki __________________ Kick Ass 2.4Liter Engine!

04-03-2005, 04:56 AM	#103
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 42 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seriously. Koukis are nice, but I doubt I'd ever trade my zenki for a kouki. Just giving you kouki owners a hard time.

04-03-2005, 04:58 AM	#104
Gladman Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver Age: 38 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pls refer to the photo of the camry __________________ Kick Ass 2.4Liter Engine!

04-03-2005, 12:20 PM	#106
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	In 1997, if I walk up to a Nissan dealership and order the full optional aero package, do they tell me I"m getting "zenki" side skirts? The analogy with taillights is not accurate- you cannot buy a Zenki from the factory with kouki taillights. The kouki tail lights ONLY come from kouki s14's; they fit on any s14, but they COME from only one source. If I walk into a Japanese junk yard and find a junked s14 kouki with the FULL AERO PACKAGE, and I remove the sideskirts, am I holding KOUKI sideskirts? am I holding ZENKI side skirts? No sir. I am holding s14 optional aero side skirts. Not Zenki. Why is it so important for you to "claim" them as if they are some sort of exclusive item for the zenki? Nissan sold s14 koukis from the factory with your so-called zenki skirts! I think that takes away all the zenki-ness right there! jeez

04-03-2005, 02:45 PM	#107
roo Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Beach // Chiba, Japan Age: 43 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	zenki....plus kouki? __________________ TOP SECRET ings+1 VARIS HyperREV Bulletproof

04-03-2005, 04:32 PM	#109
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	iirc, aren't you the guy who bought used kei offices? anyway, i can't believe this whole thread has turned into why side skirts are called what they are. as i said before, "i love s14!!" __________________

04-03-2005, 05:12 PM	#110
Doriftomodachi BANNED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: All over So Cal Posts: 410 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What does buying used kei office coilovers have to do with zenki side skirts?

04-03-2005, 07:13 PM	#111
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 40 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s14srpilot and Doriftomodachi the same person...or just share the same sig pic? I read the previous posts...and I'm done with the random off-topic posts. Lets just call the side skirts whatever we want and like ALL S14s.

04-03-2005, 09:04 PM	#113
m0rex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stop jacking the damn thread atleast. BTW: i once went to my local Nissan dealer and asked them if they could sell me a S15 headlight then i realized this wasent japan.

04-03-2005, 09:11 PM	#114
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 39 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	not another "s14b vs s14a" type of argument one person claims they are "zenki" skirts only name the other is claiming they dont have a name rather "optional" call them watever the fuck you want, as long as you know wth you are tlakin about

04-03-2005, 09:22 PM	#116
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	And to all of you, can't we all just get along? =D

04-03-2005, 09:30 PM	#117
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	u know whats gay,, every black kouki s14 ends up looking the same once people start putting body kits on... __________________ Keep it Classy