damn.... sad...

[khoadogg]

damn... so sad...
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4562562/detail.html#

[TheSnail]

I guessing the passenger died?

[revat619]

wow, that is sad.

Moving to OT.

[sw20>>s14]

Originally Posted by TheSnail

I guessing the passenger died?

i think both did...that is really sad.

[TheSnail]

Originally Posted by sw20>>s14

i think both did...that is really sad.

I missed that part. nevermined.
Are you guys really sad?

[infinitexsound]

going to fast, sucks.... someone died...... speedways kills

[SochBAT]

Sad as it is, as i read the short article, it kinda seemed like a plug for the speedway. notice the attention to detail as what happened? Compare that to the detail of the track!

DeadGuys: 0, Speedway: 1

Wonder who'd crash?

[holisticbeatz]

Originally Posted by NBC4.tv

Emergency Crews Respond To Fatal Crash At California Speedway
Second Person Hospitalized After Crash

POSTED: 3:23 pm PDT June 2, 2005
UPDATED: 5:16 pm PDT June 2, 2005

LOS ANGELES -- Two people were killed Thursday in a crash at California Speedway in Fontana.



A private car club was renting the speedway at the time of the crash.

A Porsche Carrera GT crashed into a retaining wall and came to rest on the track's infield. Authorities said two people were in the vehicle at the time of the crash.

One person was pronounced dead at the scene.

The second person in the car was transported by Mercy Air to Arrowhead Regional Medical Center. That person later died.

The track is home to the California 500, Nextel Cup 500, the Toyota Indy 400 and other motorsport events. The 2-mile D-shaped oval surrounds an infield portion used for road courses and a 13-turn interior test circuit.

Private parties can rent the track to turn laps.

I'm not sad, because the two people that died aren't related to me in any way. Its sad that they died on a race track were Drift Days are held. CA Speedway is suppose to offer a safe venue for driving. However, accidents like this are bound to occur.

Lets hope this doesn't ruin it for all of us. CA Speedway will surely reconsider renting out its tracks. I smell a possible lawsuit.

[idlafie]

Condolences go out the the family & friends of the deceased individuals. While no one expects to lose their life while at a track event, the possibility exists, hence the reason for the proper safety protocol...helmet, seatbelt, etc. It may not always help, as in this case...two people lost their lives. But it might have had the crash situation been a little bit different.
Not to be morbid, but it would be interesting to find out the situation which led up to the crash and what could have been done to prevent it. In looking at the picture posted, the passenger cabin looks almost intact. http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/4562709/detail.html
In a situation like that, you would expect both people to survive. The way Porsche designs their vehicles you would expect they would. However it didn't appear to be the case in this situation. This situation however may be a wakeup call to trackowners & rescue crews working these events. They may tighten up safety inspections and enforce safety rules more stringently after this incident.
...Prayers & thoughts going out to the grieving family & friends....
ID

[Sil Beer S13]

that sucks, but at least there in a better place

[chlatboy]

I really dont think the speedway is to blame. It maybe their fault it the accident occured because of the track. It mite be the drivers fault

[Sil Beer S13]

Originally Posted by chlatboy

I really dont think the speedway is to blame. It maybe their fault it the accident occured because of the track. It mite be the drivers fault

I would have to agree with you on that.

Seen is how the track cannot move in anyway.

[Andrew Bohan]

i'm sure they sign some sort of waiver too. if everyone crashed, it might be different. but 99.9% of the cars there don't crash, so the track must be okay. driver's fault for either tracking a broken car or not being skilled enough for what he was doing.

[s14slide]

not to be morbid myself, but someone mentioned that the cabin was intact. Although for the most part it is, but it looks like from the pic above, that someone exited through the forward glass door.

[SOLDIER [X]]

i'm guessing seatbelt malfunction unless those are the stock seats with 5 or 4 point harnesses

[sw20>>s14]

Originally Posted by TheSnail

I missed that part. nevermined.
Are you guys really sad?

i personally am sad. its a horrible way to die and it seems like s/he had a lot ($) to live for...in no way is this the tracks fault with the exception of the rescue team. but referring to the article, it seems that it would have been useless...one of them died on impact. that would have to be a tremendous amount of force (considering the interior is still intact, helmets and/or more safety equipment was used and the car did not flip). sounded like a very high speed collision...so in essence, it was sad that someone that actually used/enjoyed the car to the full potential not only totalled it, but pasted away...i dunno thats just me... sorry for the , but its a late night for me...yes, i do realize its 6:30 am...damn teenagers and their sleeping habits...

[Phlip]

I am not deeply saddened by this, however, I can see why some of you might be. I do not know enough about the situation to form the greatest of opinions on it, the driver could have been driving like an overpaid underskilled jackasss. I cannot say that they had the greates amount of life to live for and I REALLY can't say that having a lot of money is a reason OR ticket to wanting to live forever. They're dead, the car is dead, my day goes on.

[AMD 240]

i say that the driver wasnt skilled enough, lost control at a high speed and crashed...so the track and the track owner have nothing on them.

[khoadogg]

from what I read. The two in the car were not instructors. The passenger was interested in buying a GT and went for a test drive. There was Ferrari that was coming from the pits and took off when the marshall waved him to stay. The GT swearved to avoid hitting it and lost control hitting the wall. Speed was approx. 165mph. Some say as least they died doing something they loved but what's less worst of the two. Ending based on someone else are of yourself behind the wheel? It's over now, it can't be avoided but only acknowledged...

[HyperTek]

thats interesting... any auto related death is sad.. cuz that shit is gorey when it happens.. esp since its at teh speedway which I like soo much.

I wonder if the structure of the car has any play in the deaths...its a open top car anyways..

[TheSpeedFactor]

it is a damn shame.

Suprising that the car is still in relatively one peice though.

[S13 Charlie]

For some reason, it doesn't add up... A car that is designed to go 200 mph should have harnesses that can handle crashes of at least that speed.. Still, it's extremely crappy that this happened. This is a very unfortunate event, especially considering that I have friends that attend Porsche Club of America events at the speedway..

on a side note, I believe Drift Days are held in lot 12 or so, i.e. in the parking lots outside the speedway.

-C

[MakotoS13]

Originally Posted by S13 Charlie

For some reason, it doesn't add up... A car that is designed to go 200 mph should have harnesses that can handle crashes of at least that speed..

have you ever seen 200mph? it shows. anything at 200mph that doesn't have a good roll cage is prolly gonna kill or at the very elast seriously injure somebody.

200mph is FAST...

[Drunk Bastard]

Carrera GT:
Too much car for too little driver

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by khoadogg

from what I read. The two in the car were not instructors. The passenger was interested in buying a GT and went for a test drive. There was Ferrari that was coming from the pits and took off when the marshall waved him to stay. The GT swearved to avoid hitting it and lost control hitting the wall. Speed was approx. 165mph.

where did you got your info from? got a link?

Originally Posted by drunk bastard

Carrera GT:
Too much car for too little driver

considering the fact that we know next to nothing about these guys or the circumstances of the crash, it's a little distasteful to talk shit about the driver.

[the head]

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

have you ever seen 200mph? it shows. anything at 200mph that doesn't have a good roll cage is prolly gonna kill or at the very elast seriously injure somebody.

200mph is FAST...

Above about 155 in any stock automobile the chances of surviving an accident decrease exponentially. This is the reason MB limits the big AMG cars to 165 the SL55 can do a lot more but the chances of survival are severly diminished and the SL has a rollbar incase of a flip that can support the car. According to some of the european tuners the AMG 55 in an SL has a potential top speed right near 200 without limiters

[s14turbosilvia]

Originally Posted by idlafie

the passenger cabin looks almost intact.

Can you even fathom slamming into a solid, unmoveable concrete wall at over 100mph? Chances are, the car was also spinning, with little grip in the grass field.
I'm not a jackass, so I'm not going to tell you to go out and try hitting a 3 foot tall chunk of concrete, but next time you're on the highway going 70, try to imagine your possibilities of waking up from an impact at even that speed.
100mph doesn't seem like increadible speed until you put a 5000 lb immobile object in front of yourself.

Concerning the drivers of the car and their actions, I don't care if somebody was trying to showoff or if he was only avoiding some other jackoff driving like the track was all his own, two people are gone now, along with one increadibly sweet piece of engineering, hold your tounges, don't go knocking some dead guys driving skills.

[sw20>>s14]

either way, since GTs have been out, people have been crashing them left and right...i have sympathy for the ferrari guy. not for him, but for what he has to go through every day for the rest of his life...example of how a "simple" mistake can and does end up multiplying into devastating results on the track...

[SochBAT]

on HighEndCars crashing, have you noticed almost all Mercedes n other highclass cars always seem to get rearended? I've assumed that the stopping power is godly, but making the transition from decent brakes, to StopOnADime brakes, you'd crash like hell too.

Any one know how a GT crumples?

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by sochbat

Any one know how a GT crumples?

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