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/etc/shadow · 12-12-2002, 11:24 PM

Greetings.
   I've been working on pulling together the various funding to execute my master plan for my 1990 S13 240sx. I'll start by replacing the bushings all the way around the car, and then upgrading the sway bars, adding strut towers, and going coilover (currently eyeballing Whiteline). My friend has a pair of brembo crossdrilled rotors brand new in his trunk waiting for me to give him the cash for them. That's going on the front with performance pads.
   As far as performance, it's going to be an RB20 or RB25. I'm still working the numbers here... there seems to be lots of disagreement about silly things like driveshaft length that I can't seem to get good answers to.
   I plan on getting the power up to around 400 to 500 whp. 205/60R15 tires are not going to put that power to the road, so I'm going to need to get wider wheels. Well, as I understand, I'm pushing it trying to go above 8" wide in the rear. However, I'm told that if I replace the hubs with those off a Skyline or Z32-TT I would be able to put on wider wheels, provided that I go widebody.
   If I'm going to be going widebody, I really want to go Sil 1580 in the process. Those look supersexy.
   So I guess my question is this. What widebody components exist that aren't godawful looking and will attach properly to a Sil 1580 USDM S13?

/etc/shadow · 12-13-2002, 01:36 PM

bump?

Dousan_PG · 12-13-2002, 01:40 PM

do more research

z32tt hubs dont work on s13s

only

NA z32 REAR hubs work

you can use s14 front hubs and spindles

whiteline makes springs, no coilovers (i believe)

brembo does NOT cross drill rotors, outside companies do. all rotors from brembo are blanks

rb20 and 25..go 25, new engine, used in a variety of cars as well. call mckinney motorsports for more info

stock body on s13 can fit 9"s all around. you can go 10" in rear depending on suspension.

in japan you can find widebody parts for s15 front ends. jspec has stuff for s13 rear ends

must be nice to be rich! good luck on your project
btw: your car all ready has strut towers. you mean a Strut tower bar i believe!

AutoDestruct · 12-13-2002, 01:52 PM

Ha haha. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> Widebody 1580 with Rb.
Pull it off and I'll mail you my ear like Van Gogh.

JUN, N1, Jaquemond, erebuni.

Seriously give consideration as to which bank you are going to rob or what lie you are going to tell mommy. Hard problems first, then worry about the details.

If you got this kind of money go get a R32 from motorex.  GTs = 16,000 , I think

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>

*transient* · 12-13-2002, 05:02 PM

GT-S isn't an R, it's a GT-S.

benjamminm3 · 12-13-2002, 06:20 PM

the skyline gts sucks balls  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

turboturtle · 12-13-2002, 07:24 PM

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youve got to be shittin me....

Dousan_PG · 12-13-2002, 07:34 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (benjamminm3 @ Dec. 13 2002,5:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the skyline gts sucks balls <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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i reckon you musn't know shit about skylines to be talking this crap.

/etc/shadow · 12-13-2002, 08:45 PM

Strut towers, yes I meant strut tower bars. I was using shorthand that my friends and I adopted after talking about cars so fucking much. Whiteline does make coilovers -- my friend has seen an Australian magazine test where whiteline suspension components including nonadjustabtle coilovers they pulled off a 1.25 G skidpad test. Mind you, the car was quite lowered, too much so for street, but nevertheless, that handling is amazing.

I can get the RB25 clip for around $2400 plus a small shipping charge... no more than $3000 at the end (for the clip anyway). I've been doing research on all turbo options (KA+T, SR, RB, CA) for a while and the RB is best suited for my goals.

The rotors are KVR/Brembo.

I'm not surprised that my friend was wrong about tire widths, he drives an S14 and thus I'm sometimes on my own as far as the S13 goes. If I can fit 9 or 10 inch wheels stock, that will GREATLY reduce the amount of work I need to do to get the RB in. My main frustration prior to this was the thought that I need to get wide wheels in order to deal with the power output from the RB, and that was going to mean going 5 lug, getting wide expensive wheels and tires, and then all the widebody shit to support that, which means a paintjob because I refuse to drive around looking primered.

In any case, thanks for all your help. You may have allowed me to do this a lot sooner.

Gunburn · 01-04-2003, 12:49 AM

I know this might be kind of late but (i was going throught the search thing) if the skyline sucks so much.....tell me plz.......I would love to hear it........why do you want to use the FREAK'N ENGINE!!!!

Dumb ppl scare me, there the ones who get ppl killed.....

*ca18guy* · 01-04-2003, 12:58 AM

The Skyline GTS doesn't exactly "suck balls" but its not exactly a car I would buy if I had $16,000.

boro240 · 01-04-2003, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by transient
GT-S isn't an R, it's a GT-S.

when did he say it was? all he said was R32. then he said GTS. its still an R32, but not a GT-R.

Drifted off road · 01-04-2003, 09:41 PM

yea the r32 is a production period, its the BNR32 that started in 1989 and ended in 94-95. just because its not a GT-R doesnt mean its not an r32.

12-13-2002, 01:40 PM	#3
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	do more research z32tt hubs dont work on s13s only NA z32 REAR hubs work you can use s14 front hubs and spindles whiteline makes springs, no coilovers (i believe) brembo does NOT cross drill rotors, outside companies do. all rotors from brembo are blanks rb20 and 25..go 25, new engine, used in a variety of cars as well. call mckinney motorsports for more info stock body on s13 can fit 9"s all around. you can go 10" in rear depending on suspension. in japan you can find widebody parts for s15 front ends. jspec has stuff for s13 rear ends must be nice to be rich! good luck on your project btw: your car all ready has strut towers. you mean a Strut tower bar i believe! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-13-2002, 01:52 PM	#4
AutoDestruct Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Burg, Harrisburg Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ha haha. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Widebody 1580 with Rb. Pull it off and I'll mail you my ear like Van Gogh. JUN, N1, Jaquemond, erebuni. Seriously give consideration as to which bank you are going to rob or what lie you are going to tell mommy. Hard problems first, then worry about the details. If you got this kind of money go get a R32 from motorex.  GTs = 16,000 , I think <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>

12-13-2002, 05:02 PM	#5
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 40 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	GT-S isn't an R, it's a GT-S. __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

12-13-2002, 06:20 PM	#6
benjamminm3 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the skyline gts sucks balls  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

12-13-2002, 07:24 PM	#7
turboturtle Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (benjamminm3 @ Dec. 13 2002,7:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the skyline gts sucks balls <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> youve got to be shittin me....

12-12-2002, 11:24 PM	#1
/etc/shadow Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Greetings.    I've been working on pulling together the various funding to execute my master plan for my 1990 S13 240sx. I'll start by replacing the bushings all the way around the car, and then upgrading the sway bars, adding strut towers, and going coilover (currently eyeballing Whiteline). My friend has a pair of brembo crossdrilled rotors brand new in his trunk waiting for me to give him the cash for them. That's going on the front with performance pads.    As far as performance, it's going to be an RB20 or RB25. I'm still working the numbers here... there seems to be lots of disagreement about silly things like driveshaft length that I can't seem to get good answers to.    I plan on getting the power up to around 400 to 500 whp. 205/60R15 tires are not going to put that power to the road, so I'm going to need to get wider wheels. Well, as I understand, I'm pushing it trying to go above 8" wide in the rear. However, I'm told that if I replace the hubs with those off a Skyline or Z32-TT I would be able to put on wider wheels, provided that I go widebody.    If I'm going to be going widebody, I really want to go Sil 1580 in the process. Those look supersexy.    So I guess my question is this. What widebody components exist that aren't godawful looking and will attach properly to a Sil 1580 USDM S13?

12-13-2002, 01:36 PM	#2
/etc/shadow Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bump?

12-13-2002, 07:34 PM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (benjamminm3 @ Dec. 13 2002,5:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the skyline gts sucks balls <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> i reckon you musn't know shit about skylines to be talking this crap. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-13-2002, 08:45 PM	#9
/etc/shadow Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Strut towers, yes I meant strut tower bars. I was using shorthand that my friends and I adopted after talking about cars so fucking much. Whiteline does make coilovers -- my friend has seen an Australian magazine test where whiteline suspension components including nonadjustabtle coilovers they pulled off a 1.25 G skidpad test. Mind you, the car was quite lowered, too much so for street, but nevertheless, that handling is amazing. I can get the RB25 clip for around $2400 plus a small shipping charge... no more than $3000 at the end (for the clip anyway). I've been doing research on all turbo options (KA+T, SR, RB, CA) for a while and the RB is best suited for my goals. The rotors are KVR/Brembo. I'm not surprised that my friend was wrong about tire widths, he drives an S14 and thus I'm sometimes on my own as far as the S13 goes. If I can fit 9 or 10 inch wheels stock, that will GREATLY reduce the amount of work I need to do to get the RB in. My main frustration prior to this was the thought that I need to get wide wheels in order to deal with the power output from the RB, and that was going to mean going 5 lug, getting wide expensive wheels and tires, and then all the widebody shit to support that, which means a paintjob because I refuse to drive around looking primered. In any case, thanks for all your help. You may have allowed me to do this a lot sooner.

01-04-2003, 12:49 AM	#10
Gunburn Join Date: May 2002 Location: Moesto, Ca Age: 39 Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know this might be kind of late but (i was going throught the search thing) if the skyline sucks so much.....tell me plz.......I would love to hear it........why do you want to use the FREAK'N ENGINE!!!! Dumb ppl scare me, there the ones who get ppl killed..... __________________ s13 At Its Finest

01-04-2003, 12:58 AM	#11
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 41 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Skyline GTS doesn't exactly "suck balls" but its not exactly a car I would buy if I had $16,000.

01-04-2003, 09:41 PM	#13
Drifted off road Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: central coastal jersey Age: 38 Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea the r32 is a production period, its the BNR32 that started in 1989 and ended in 94-95. just because its not a GT-R doesnt mean its not an r32. __________________