The Sr20/Sr22vet thread

[insa]

Nice looking Setup!

all on Stock SR Transmission w/ OS Giken Twin Disk.
Eeeeeek! :-D

[TheRealSy90]

Originally Posted by Options13

I have a few questions. OS Giken Twin Disk.

Is it the TS2B/TS2BD twin disc? Did you use OEM or ARP flywheel bolts?
If ARP, did you have to cut the threads shorter? According the OsGiken the OEM bolt heads are too tall and have to be shaved down or they'll rub the disc, and the ARP threads are too long and must be trimmed down or the bolt will bottom out in the crank too early...

I wish they just made bolts for this clutch.


Hoping I can figure out the right sleeve combination to make my TS2BD work with the Mazworx cd009 trans kit. I ordered the sleeve OS recommends for the stock sr trans and will have to see how my throwout clearance is and adjust from there.

[Jybfan04]

Originally Posted by jr_ss

I have Nismo engine mounts, circa 06'.

You should be around 500whp. I made 485 on pump without water/meth. I don't think you'll need that for under 500whp. There are some slight differences between our setups, N1's and static comp ratios. You have 9:1 VE CPs and I run 8.5:1 DET JEs. However, I have a higher static comp ratio because of this difference. I also ran P11 cams, which will be swapped out to N1's after the new year.

Running the DET JE's what do you plan on doing for p2v clearance since the N1's are larger?

Curious because I run DET CP's and been looking for options to resolve any p2v clearance when I decide to drop the P11 cams.

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by Jybfan04

Running the DET JE's what do you plan on doing for p2v clearance since the N1's are larger?

Curious because I run DET CP's and been looking for options to resolve any p2v clearance when I decide to drop the P11 cams.

The JEs have larger valve reliefs than the factory VE pistons. There are plenty of people that run N1s without issues on factory pistons. I'll check clearances with a boroscope just to make sure though.

[Options13]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Is it the TS2B/TS2BD twin disc? Did you use OEM or ARP flywheel bolts?
If ARP, did you have to cut the threads shorter? According the OsGiken the OEM bolt heads are too tall and have to be shaved down or they'll rub the disc, and the ARP threads are too long and must be trimmed down or the bolt will bottom out in the crank too early...

I wish they just made bolts for this clutch.


Hoping I can figure out the right sleeve combination to make my TS2BD work with the Mazworx cd009 trans kit. I ordered the sleeve OS recommends for the stock sr trans and will have to see how my throwout clearance is and adjust from there.

Hmm, i am not too sure which os giken i have, but i can tell you that i used arp fly wheel bolts with no issues.

[RZRSHARP_240SX]

I have had issues with the ARP flywheel bolts being to long with my os giken triple plate and had similar issues with my spec mini twin

[TheRealSy90]

Originally Posted by RZRSHARP_240SX

I have had issues with the ARP flywheel bolts being to long with my os giken triple plate and had similar issues with my spec mini twin

What did you do? Trim the threads off of the bolts somehow?


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[rbs14kouki]

Originally Posted by Jybfan04

Running the DET JE's what do you plan on doing for p2v clearance since the N1's are larger?

Curious because I run DET CP's and been looking for options to resolve any p2v clearance when I decide to drop the P11 cams.

Originally Posted by jr_ss

The JEs have larger valve reliefs than the factory VE pistons. There are plenty of people that run N1s without issues on factory pistons. I'll check clearances with a boroscope just to make sure though.

det pistons dont have valves reliefs ... they only have a domed head and bigger then a p11 its gona interfeer . anyway on 2 of the built we did over p11 with det pistons was a no go

Originally Posted by Options13

Hmm, i am not too sure which os giken i have, but i can tell you that i used arp fly wheel bolts with no issues.

Originally Posted by RZRSHARP_240SX

I have had issues with the ARP flywheel bolts being to long with my os giken triple plate and had similar issues with my spec mini twin

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

What did you do? Trim the threads off of the bolts somehow?


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on are hold fd car(sr24vet) before going VQ ... we were running comp clutch tripple with (if im not mistaking...) ford mustang arp flywheels bolts (same thread , just a different head size and abit thicker)


we machined the flywheel face where the bolt sit to gain clearence to the clutch

[TheRealSy90]

Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

on are hold fd car(sr24vet) before going VQ ... we were running comp clutch tripple with (if im not mistaking...) ford mustang arp flywheels bolts (same thread , just a different head size and abit thicker)


we machined the flywheel face where the bolt sit to gain clearence to the clutch

I've heard of the mustang bolts, were the threads shorter?




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[RZRSHARP_240SX]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

What did you do? Trim the threads off of the bolts somehow?


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I used the bolts that came with my mazworx z32 trans conversion I think it's been a while

[TheRealSy90]

That comes with flywheel bolts? Interesting.


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[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

det pistons dont have valves reliefs ... they only have a domed head and bigger then a p11 its gona interfeer . anyway on 2 of the built we did over p11 with det pistons was a no go

I know what's in my motor and JE DET pistons do infact have valve reliefs. Try googling some images of them. If you want, I'll take a picture of the boroscope screen so you'll believe me . I will agree to disagree that most DET pistons do not have valve reliefs.

[rbs14kouki]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

I've heard of the mustang bolts, were the threads shorter?




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No only the head of the bolt is bigger

Originally Posted by jr_ss

I know what's in my motor and JE DET pistons do infact have valve reliefs. Try googling some images of them. If you want, I'll take a picture of the boroscope screen so you'll believe me . I will agree to disagree that most DET pistons do not have valve reliefs.

I just googled it and your right . My bad

Do you know if the reliefs in them are as big as a cp Ve pistons ?!

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

No only the head of the bolt is bigger



I just googled it and your right . My bad

Do you know if the reliefs in them are as big as a cp Ve pistons ?!

I believe the reliefs are smaller than the CP VE's but they are as big or bigger than the factory VE pistons.

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

I just googled it and your right . My bad

Do you know if the reliefs in them are as big as a cp Ve pistons ?!

I believe the reliefs are smaller than the CP VE's but they are bigger than the factory VE pistons.

[1gr8bar10der]

Definitely going this route. Very good read!

[TEALSQUEAL]

Jw what the dimple plate for the front is for? I know it is removable I have the same setup, but just with factory sheet metal. Anything ahead of the shock towers is is pretty much useless on s chassis.

[LuckyX2]

Originally Posted by jr_ss

The JEs have larger valve reliefs than the factory VE pistons. There are plenty of people that run N1s without issues on factory pistons. I'll check clearances with a boroscope just to make sure though.

I'm running JE 10.5:1 pistons with N1 cams no problem. Your 8.5:1 pistons will have even more clearance.

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by LuckyX2

I'm running JE 10.5:1 pistons with N1 cams no problem. Your 8.5:1 pistons will have even more clearance.

Good to know!

[japslapsilvia]

Mine is finally almost finished.

Block and head build by Mazworx, conversion parts from Mazworx, Hall Sensor kit from Taarks, GTX3582R on Mazworx TS Manifold. 90MM Bore, 1/2inch Main and head studs, billet main caps. Just a few more items and i can get this up an running

[Zolvovo]

Originally Posted by LuckyX2

It's also incorrect to say the P12 is the more expensive swap, like most people think. Let me break it down.

P11:
+$750
+$300 for solenoid relocation and lines/fittings
+$300 for hall sensor or P12 CAS
+$450 for N1 cams
-$150 selling the P11 cams (undesirable/hard sell)
Total: $1650 with N1 cams, $1350 with stock cams

P12:
+$1500
+$450 for N1 cams
-$300 selling P12 cams (P11 guys will buy P12 cams, this is what mine sold for)
-$500 selling 6 speed trans (Sentra guys with 5 speeds or autos desire this swap)
Total: $1150 with N1 cams, $1000 with stock cams

for the record sentra guys have no use for the 6spd aside from the bellhousing which can be had from gspec for $300

amazing you got $300 for those cams. never heard of any p11 guy using or wanting them

check the specs

http://www.sr20forum.com/sr20ve-sr16...12-cams-2.html

[TheRealSy90]

Isn't there a 6sp swap kit for the sentras? My friend had one on his 700 something whp Sentra.


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[hanzbrady]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Isn't there a 6sp swap kit for the sentras? My friend had one on his 700 something whp Sentra.


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Yeah, we make a kit using the P12 bellhousing and the QR tranny

[TheRealSy90]

Oh, so doesn't use the sr 6sp trans. Got it.


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[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Oh, so doesn't use the sr 6sp trans. Got it.


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It does use a 6spd trans, just not the P12 one. The QR comes with a 6spd.

[TheRealSy90]

Right, not the sr 6sp like I said [emoji23]


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[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Right, not the sr 6sp like I said [emoji23]


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Right, not the Sr 6spd like you said...

[candyred_240sx]

Round two for my setup.

Now with a Mazworx sleeved block and billet main caps (non sleeved block cracked when we turned it up to 30psi)




On a side note I have a spare Mazworx intake manifold for sale.

This intake manifold has been mounted but never run. It has s13 iacv and flanged for q45 throttle body. It has some scratches from the mocking up.

$700 USD OBO

[Zolvovo]

it's because the p12 6spd isn't lsd

yeah props to mazworx makes a crucial axle carrier for the fwd

still very few have done the vet + 6spd compared to rwd zilvias

[Rb26kouki]

Originally Posted by japslapsilvia

Mine is finally almost finished.



Block and head build by Mazworx, conversion parts from Mazworx, Hall Sensor kit from Taarks, GTX3582R on Mazworx TS Manifold. 90MM Bore, 1/2inch Main and head studs, billet main caps. Just a few more items and i can get this up an running

Nice, what ar did you go with the turbine ?
& compression on pistons