The Future Automotive Thread

[Future240]

Originally Posted by Goofs

Just it being boosted and 6spd is a huge plus
I see it being priced a little under the supra

Another plus is reputable companies like AMS have already gotten a lot out of the Q50/Q60 platform, they have also been promoting this reveal heavily

Maybe not. The Q60 base is 41K, the supra is 49k

The 370z is 29K

I would hope Nissan would price this around 33K or less.

I would guess the setup would be VR30DDTT mated to a FS6R31A. Tuned to maybe 350 as to not undercut the Q60 Redsports.

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

They're doing it for the weebs.

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

The katana is the weakest shit. lol

Ok, so it's not just me then. I tried to ignore it at first, but man is it hard.

[kingkilburn]

Count down to ain't care asshats ahegao sticker bombing their katana.

[cured13]

It's OK, you cannot see it.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.

For me and many others
IT'S PURE SEX!

[ronmcdon]

im also more inclined to believe this is more of an aggressive refresh.

https://www.motortrend.com/features-...arison-visual/

i’m fairly neutral with the design. also like the side profile, but the rest of the car is too retro for my preference. dont care for that paint at all.

[spooled240]

It's tacky, but I'm still in disbelief a Japanese car company bolted a twin turbo v6 to a manual gearbox in 2020.

They can put a fucking sword on the roof idc.

[ronmcdon]

im also more inclined to believe this is more of an aggressive refresh.

https://www.motortrend.com/features-...arison-visual/

i?m fairly neutral with the design. also like the side profile, but the rest of the car is too retro for my preference. dont care for that paint at all.

[OliverCarrie]

Damn! Sex is the right word, cured13. Being a truck enthusiast, I'm not really a fan of sports cars, but those black rims look sexy.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

im also more inclined to believe this is more of an aggressive refresh.

https://www.motortrend.com/features-...arison-visual/

i?m fairly neutral with the design. also like the side profile, but the rest of the car is too retro for my preference. dont care for that paint at all.

Its 2" longer, 1"wider, and almost an inch lower than the 350z. You can do that with just a refresh. The overall shape is still reminiscent of all the Z?s so of course it?ll be easy to compare side by side.

And as far as the katana goes, if they wouldn?t have said a damn thing about it being a katana nobody would have had an issue with it. Extra accent trim pieces are becoming more common in the industry. Kia and Hyundai are doing it the most. It?s also an incredible way thing to correct by wrapping it.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by OliverCarrie

Damn! Sex is the right word, cured13. Being a truck enthusiast, I'm not really a fan of sports cars, but those black rims look sexy. They're as dark as the matte black wheels REMOVED LINK I bought for my truck.

This reeks of a spam post, but none of your other posts have links in them and you are actually interacting with people. Also weird you are on a sports car forum not liking sports cars.

I will call it spam light. Further rando links like this will get you perma banned as a spammer.

[Future240]

Refresh, redo, new car. Who gives af honestly. Like Nissan can afford to build a whole new chassis. This is probably the best/cheapest option for them. Redesign a current car, use the same chassis, give it an engine and trans you already make, update the interior.

Boom "new" car.

Its not like it is not done already.

BMW does it.

[cdlong]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Its 2" longer, 1"wider, and almost an inch lower than the 350z. You can do that with just a refresh. The overall shape is still reminiscent of all the Z?s so of course it?ll be easy to compare side by side.

And as far as the katana goes, if they wouldn?t have said a damn thing about it being a katana nobody would have had an issue with it. Extra accent trim pieces are becoming more common in the industry. Kia and Hyundai are doing it the most. It?s also an incredible way thing to correct by wrapping it.

So it's on par with the s13-s14-s15 generations? Most people here don't have much problem with that. Aside from the tired styling and dated tech that are out the window with the new car, are there any real problems with the 370z?

[Dutchmalmiss]

Originally Posted by Future240

Refresh, redo, new car. Who gives af honestly. Like Nissan can afford to build a whole new chassis. This is probably the best/cheapest option for them. Redesign a current car, use the same chassis, give it an engine and trans you already make, update the interior.

Boom "new" car.

Its not like it is not done already.

BMW does it.

Yep. The new IS that Lexus unveiled for 2021 is on the same platform from the 2005 model. I think 3 or 4 'facelifts' are starting to become the norm now.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by cdlong

So it's on par with the s13-s14-s15 generations? Most people here don't have much problem with that. Aside from the tired styling and dated tech that are out the window with the new car, are there any real problems with the 370z?

Correct, if the 370z got the TT 6 for the last few years with 400hp wed all really just be clamoring for a new exterior design.

And here we are with all of the above and a generally well received design.

[TheRealSy90]

Originally Posted by spooled240

It's tacky, but I'm still in disbelief a Japanese car company bolted a twin turbo v6 to a manual gearbox in 2020.

They can put a fucking sword on the roof idc.

Seriously this all day.

[exitspeed]

$20 Toyota announces a manual Supra within the next 6 months.

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

$20 Toyota announces a manual Supra within the next 6 months.

Yea, I agree that is something we can see come out soon-ish.

The Z4 has it (in Europe), so it's possible the Supra can get it too. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/22/...mission-supra/

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

And as far as the katana goes, if they wouldn?t have said a damn thing about it being a katana nobody would have had an issue with it. Extra accent trim pieces are becoming more common in the industry. Kia and Hyundai are doing it the most. It?s also an incredible way thing to correct by wrapping it.

I actually saw the pictures, before the video and it was literally the first thing I noticed. One of my personal pet peeves is satin metal/ chrome/ stainless trims on sports cars (especially window trims). Door handles and small emblems are fine, though.

Originally Posted by cdlong

are there any real problems with the 370z?

They are pretty known to need an external oil cooler for heavy/ spirited driving and track use. The most recent Best Motoring Tsukuba 5lap battle had a 370Z Nismo not finish, because of this.

[kingkilburn]

Maybe it's the result of being a child of the 80s and 90s but I'm basically allergic to chrome trim. It has not place beyond the 70s. If your design needs accented to that degree you need to figure out what isn't working.

I almost guarantee you there's a welded seam under the trim and that katana is the chosen means of hiding it.

[brndck]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Maybe it's the result of being a child of the 80s and 90s but I'm basically allergic to chrome trim. It has not place beyond the 70s. If your design needs accented to that degree you need to figure out what isn't working.

I almost guarantee you there's a welded seam under the trim and that katana is the chosen means of hiding it.

my biggest gripe about this car has been that giant swatch of chrome trim around the rear side window. . . . oh yeah and the terrible grille shape

[SERADAMEL]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Maybe it's the result of being a child of the 80s and 90s but I'm basically allergic to chrome trim.

That's a good one, lol

[brownspeed]

Dont care what it looks like just bring back some fun to the nissan.

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[altitude]

Not in the market for this but doesnt mean I can't chime in

I prefer this look to the new Supra's. Honestly I just hate the new Supra's look...

Same chassis makes sense. Reduces the chances they pull an IDX again no? And a Z based on the Q60 would end up bigger and heavier.

Katana: didnt notice.

6Spd and a TT option is a must at this point otherwise don't bother Nissan

Originally Posted by brownspeed

Dont care what it looks like just bring back some fun to the nissan.

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Are the posts counts wrong or thats really your first post in 8 years?

[cdlong]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

They are pretty known to need an external oil cooler for heavy/ spirited driving and track use. The most recent Best Motoring Tsukuba 5lap battle had a 370Z Nismo not finish, because of this.

That's pretty minor. I guess I was thinking something like a suspension design flaw or chassis cracks like the E46 strut towers. And it seems that the Q60 red sport 400 has a factory oil cooler and and probably an upgrade available somewhere. So in all likelihood, the 400z will get one too.

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by cdlong

That's pretty minor. I guess I was thinking something like a suspension design flaw or chassis cracks like the E46 strut towers. And it seems that the Q60 red sport 400 has a factory oil cooler and and probably an upgrade available somewhere. So in all likelihood, the 400z will get one too.

Ya, I think the chassis and suspension design is pretty problem free.

People that track them do say they have the following problems that need to be addressed:

• Fuel starvation. Apparently they like to go dead when making fast right turns with 1/2, or less of a tank in them (some even report problems at 7/8 full).
  
• Needs a larger P/S cooler.
  
• Needs brake cooling ducts.
  
• Something about "Ice Mode" messing up the braking.

I'm seeing people say that they need about $3K in mods if you want to track one. Seems like it wouldn't be that much from the fixes I've looked up, though...

[K_style]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

$20 Toyota announces a manual Supra within the next 6 months.

right on the $$

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

Ya, I think the chassis and suspension design is pretty problem free.

People that track them do say they have the following problems that need to be addressed:

• Fuel starvation. Apparently they like to go dead when making fast right turns with 1/2, or less of a tank in them (some even report problems at 7/8 full).
  
• Needs a larger P/S cooler.
  
• Needs brake cooling ducts.
  
• Something about "Ice Mode" messing up the braking.

I'm seeing people say that they need about $3K in mods if you want to track one. Seems like it wouldn't be that much from the fixes I've looked up, though...

I don't care if they "s15'd" it. It just means there will be less bugs in early models and lower production costs. With a new interior and exterior, would you even feel a difference?

[ronmcdon]

I would not mind a refresh too, as long as it becomes more competitive as a performance car at it's price point and it doesn't balloon into a $50k and up car. Would be nice to see the mustang and camero have some competition.

[BryanSayWhat]

Originally Posted by spooled240

I don't care if they "s15'd" it. It just means there will be less bugs in early models and lower production costs. With a new interior and exterior, would you even feel a difference?

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I would not mind a refresh too, as long as it becomes more competitive as a performance car at it's price point and it doesn't balloon into a $50k and up car. Would be nice to see the mustang and camero have some competition.

I agree with both of these.

I just hope they fix the small track flaws that plague the 350/ 370Z. That alone with the new TT V6 + 6spd manual is a good start.

[Antihero983]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Maybe it's the result of being a child of the 80s and 90s but I'm basically allergic to chrome trim. It has not place beyond the 70s. If your design needs accented to that degree you need to figure out what isn't working.

I almost guarantee you there's a welded seam under the trim and that katana is the chosen means of hiding it.

120% Agree.