Wheel Fitment Question Thread

[Sil#2]

Thanks for the info man. I kind of wanted to stay away from the stretch if possible.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by Sil#2

Thanks for the info man. I kind of wanted to stay away from the stretch if possible.

Do yourself a favor then and look into this thread so you can get an idea of how much fender work you may have to do.

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maxi...nt-thread.html

[humilde_s13]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

PM Knoop (95KA-Turbo), think he runs knuckles and 10js up front on his S14. He should be able to tell you if he had any clearance issue.



Not 100% sure but to me, running undersized wheels is like raising the car up. All you're doing is giving yourself more gap/space between the tires and fenders. I think you'd have a better clearance if you can trim down your spacers to the min you need to clear the brakes. You probably just need about 12-13mm from my personal experience with most rims I've ran. And for ever 3mm you get back, is about 1* you can get back roughly.



I would bet smaller tires, those are enormous!!! Look up tire calculators and use 205/55-16s for an overall diameter for reference you wanna shoot for the same diameter or maybe smaller. The larger 40 series 18" tires I'd run is 235/40-18s. Even those are larger than usual.

Also, why do you want to run such wide tires? Wider tires mean, more fender work you'd need to clear them.

My current setup is 18x10 +7 225/40-18 and 18x10.5 +10 235/40-18



If you insist on running 245-265 width tires, you'd need to kick it down to 35 series tires and massage the fenders some more or run more camber.

i have seen this car so many time during my lunch break and i lookss sickk

[Happytimetom]

Hey guys, first of all I understand this is a silvia forum however it's the only place ive found so far on the net where people seem to have a clue.
I have a Toyota 86 arriving in October and i'm looking at buying some wheels before it arrives. I have taken a liking to black 18" xxr 521's.

However i'm not sure how to get a nice fit (flush with the guards) I wont have coilovers so i will not be able to adjust ride height or camber, I just want some nice looking wheels that fit nicely and still be able to drive the car like it's designed to be driven.

Can anyone suggest how I can calculate the right tyres and wheels for me?

Also do you recommend getting them staggered? eg Wider at the back...

Thanks for any help

[rbs14kouki]

Originally Posted by Happytimetom

Hey guys, first of all I understand this is a silvia forum however it's the only place ive found so far on the net where people seem to have a clue.
I have a Toyota 86 arriving in October and i'm looking at buying some wheels before it arrives. I have taken a liking to black 18" xxr 521's.

However i'm not sure how to get a nice fit (flush with the guards) I wont have coilovers so i will not be able to adjust ride height or camber, I just want some nice looking wheels that fit nicely and still be able to drive the car like it's designed to be driven.

Can anyone suggest how I can calculate the right tyres and wheels for me?

Also do you recommend getting them staggered? eg Wider at the back...

Thanks for any help

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[thisisastickup]

you just spent 24 grand on a car and you're going to put 800 dollar wheels on it? don't. just don't.

[Happytimetom]

What would you suggest then? I've asked for opinions on xxr and people seem to think they are quite good. I'm open for any opinions, though i'm not going to buy $6000 wheels. xxr are lightweight and not cheap but not expensive.

I'm open for any suggestions, the question still remains on how to acheive the right fit though

[Te37]

I would suggest more research, what wheels are 6000$? Xxr are the cheapest wheels you can get, and talk about heavy. OEM > xxr

[Happytimetom]

So you would recommend oem? Xxr are not the cheapest. despite what wheels i get i still need a nice fit and that's really my question here. once i find the style of rim i want how to i measure and calculate things to ensure they will fit?

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by Happytimetom

So you would recommend oem? Xxr are not the cheapest. despite what wheels i get i still need a nice fit and that's really my question here. once i find the style of rim i want how to i measure and calculate things to ensure they will fit?

To level with you, keep in mind, a lot of us have only SEEN FRS'/86's around. Not a lot of own one or have worked on one.

I, myself, know nothing about what would be an ideal size/offset/width combo for that car.

My suggestion if you really want help from us, is to give us ideas on what the inner fender clearance is, what set up you are running, strut to knuckle distance, etc.

You even said it yourself, this is a Zilvia. Not a 86 forum. And please, don't settle for XXR. As mentioned, they are heavy. If you want wheels, go with RPF's or something, at least. Do the car some justice and not go with XXR's

[Happytimetom]

Thanks for your help, Do you know which wheels those are the bottom red 86? if not just the source of the picture would be awesome.

Thanks again, Tom

[Mister.E]

having a car with a 5x100 lug pattern really sucks as far as wheel choices go. But you could get some CR-Kais or something like that in 5x100. I had them on my WRX when i was stationed in Japan.

[I'm Redline]

OK, now I got this question about the little hanging dolls or whatever they are called. Now I do know on my Harley Sporty cafe Racer, and many harleys, we give our friends small anti gremlin bells to hang from the frame. Not only are they a good luck charm that annoys gremlins, but they are also a sign that we pull over for a bike on the side of the road and offer assistance. SO with that in mind, can someone explain to me the little black dude on this car? (yes, I have seen many of them around, just ignorant as to the why, please educate me)

[ME GUSTA]

Planning to get XXR 530 in 17x9.75 +25 offset for my completely stock body 95 s14.

Should I get the fenders rolled at the minimum? And what sizes tires should be looking at.

other wheel choice opinions are welcome, but I'm keeping the 4 lug. it's my daily and just need cheap wheels to make it look less like a junker.

also, will these look any good. by no means am I going for a super aggressive poke but i'd it to be at least flush.

[fullthrottle]

Bros I just picked up an r32 skyline and I don't have many wheels to test fit. anyone have a general width and offset to get me into the ballpark? More or less offset than. S13? S14?

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[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by fullthrottle

Bros I just picked up an r32 skyline and I don't have many wheels to test fit. anyone have a general width and offset to get me into the ballpark? More or less offset than. S13? S14?

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Big difference between GTRs vs GTS-Ts. Follow skinny regimes like S13 sizings, not because of smaller wheel wells like on the S13 but the fenders doesnt bulge out as much. If its a GTR, you can run 10.5j +12 and still be able to run meaty ass 255-265s all around with some fender work.

[fullthrottle]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Big difference between GTRs vs GTS-Ts. Follow skinny regimes like S13 sizings, not because of smaller wheel wells like on the S13 but the fenders doesnt bulge out as much. If its a GTR, you can run 10.5j +12 and still be able to run meaty ass 255-265s all around with some fender work.

its a gtst and thanks for the info

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[moowee240]

OK SO YOU GUYS THINK THESE WILL FIT. i got an amazing deal on a set of genuine hre wheels, only thing is they are sized 17x10 and 17 x13!! rear..the front has a lip of 3.5 to 4 ish inchs and the rears have a 5 inch lip. they had 315 tire on the rear and 245 on the front.. im running fortune coilovers, lowered but not too lowered and am geting 50mm rear over fenders and 40mm front fenders. this is a s13 coupe by the way...

[dazed]

^ Need to post the offsets too, but those tires are big.

So I have 30mm rear over's installed on my car.

Just slapped on some 25mm spacers on my wheels.

18x10 -7 = effective offset.

I'm really not THAT low right now.

I'm going to get an alignment. But I have a question about the rubbing.




Looks, alright. Still need to have the camber/toe messed with.

But it's not even drive-able like that.

Was wondering where the hell I was rubbing at, took the wheel off and found out:








So what it's rubbing on, is the inside of what looks to be the old fender? Did the people who did my over-fenders not do a proper job? I don't understand how I'm supposed to get around this, save for maybe banging on them with a hammer or something. I don't know if playing with the suspension will get it to clear that. It's like the inner lip of the old fender.


Thoughts? And please don't quote all my pics in the reply.

[fliprayzin240sx]

When you slap over fenders on, you're supposed to cut the oem fender high up, both inner and outer since theres two metal. Then you're supposed to reweld them back together so the its sealed. Doesnt look like they cut the old fenders high enough.

From the looks of the picture, it doesnt look like they welded/sealed the inner and outer fender back together. You'll get shit/waster getting inside your car.

Here's a good step by step of the process...
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/392168...-silvia/page-4

[dazed]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.. It looks like they didn't cut the old ones high enough.

I watched them doing some welding so I think they did that part. Just kind bummed now. My own fault I guess for not inspecting it better.


Edit: Went down to the bodyshop (this is a couple months later after the work has been done). Told them the deal, showed them pictures of what it's supposed to look like. And acknowledged they fucked up and are going to cut the original fender up higher.... which they should have done in the first place... but at least I don't have to threaten legal action. Going to watch them do the whole thing this time possibly.

So my question is solved. Anyone pics of what an over-fender install is NOT supposed to look like? Check the bottom of the last page.

[Silvi]

What about stretching 225/40 on 18X10J?
Is it safe? btw i'm talking about the rear wheels(+drifting sometimes)

[fliprayzin240sx]

Not that big of a deal...thats what i run on my fronts. Seen people stretch 215s on 10js.

[blockedwizard]

Hey there

I have 18x8.5 +25 lmgt4's with 235/45/18's mounted for the front
And 18x9 +30 XSA 02c's for the rear, still no tires

This is for my s13 coupe, with lowering springs on stock shocks and hammered front fenders, probably gonna roll both fenders, and eventually get coilovers. But for now on lowering springs.

My questions are what tires should i run in the rear? maybe throw the 235/45's from the lmgt4's to the works, and get something like 215's or 225's for the lmgt4's? Or go with a whole new set or different tires?

Also will i need spacers? im guessing i do

Thanks

[Silvi]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Not that big of a deal...thats what i run on my fronts. Seen people stretch 215s on 10js.

Thanks!
As i know the stretch of 225 on 10J is pretty serious..
So if i drifting sometimes with stretch like this, any chances the the the tire will rip at the stretch points under pressure? or its fully safe?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by Silvi

Thanks!
As i know the stretch of 225 on 10J is pretty serious..
So if i drifting sometimes with stretch like this, any chances the the the tire will rip at the stretch points under pressure? or its fully safe?

Like I've said before, the same exact wheels I have up front (Work Equip 18x10 running 225/40-18s) are my track/daily wheels up front since I've run nothing but Dunlop Star Specs. I've been running 10js on 225/40s since 2007. Never had an issue. I've even had a small leak that caused one of the wheels to get down to 15 psi and didnt even break the bead.

[fliprayzin240sx]

You dont need spacers to fit them but you'd probably want some spacers to get them somewhat flush to the fenders. You shouldnt have to roll/pull the fenders on this setup.

As far as the tires, you probably wanna get rid of the 235/45-18 all together since those are too big for these cars. I doubt you'd fit those tires up front without hitting the top of the struts. I'd run some 215/40 up front and 225/40 in the rears.

[blockedwizard]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

You dont need spacers to fit them but you'd probably want some spacers to get them somewhat flush to the fenders. You shouldnt have to roll/pull the fenders on this setup.

As far as the tires, you probably wanna get rid of the 235/45-18 all together since those are too big for these cars. I doubt you'd fit those tires up front without hitting the top of the struts. I'd run some 215/40 up front and 225/40 in the rears.

Thanks alot man, i figured id need spacers to make 'em sit flush. And the tire options makes it cheaper and easier to find em, thanks again

[Mustache240]

what size spacers should i run on 17x7.5 +35 with 20mm overs on the rear (car came with them) the tire size im running is 235 45 17. I want the wheel to sit sorta flush with the fender, since im planning on tucking.... car has coils on it

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by Mustache240

what size spacers should i run on 17x7.5 +35 with 20mm overs on the rear (car came with them) the tire size im running is 235 45 17. I want the wheel to sit sorta flush with the fender, since im planning on tucking.... car has coils on it

You have 20mm overs...and you want to fit skinny 7.5"...you're going to need a monster spacer to get this to be flush.

Honestly, if you can trade up to something a little wider and has a better offset for the S-Chassis, go with that.

Unless you're dumb enough to go with these for your shitty sized wheels: