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dizzariot · 03-24-2022, 06:02 PM

Dude I'm hoping that if Zilvia stays up, we will see an influx of owners on this thread. Times are changing....

ccalahan · 03-25-2022, 02:20 PM

Picked up a 1990 S13, unmolested. Currently working a coolant/head gasket/cracked head or block issue at the moment. Bought last year in North Carolina, had a seized engine. Bought another KA24E off eBay and she's smoking white out the tailpipe like crazy. Installed new head gasket, torqued down properly and everything, still smokes. Points to a crack. This sucks. Not giving up! I had a 1991 S13 back in the late 90's after joining the Air Force and I will get this baby back to operating again! Keeping her stock and most likely will get an updated paint job at some point.

Hoffman5982 · 03-25-2022, 04:41 PM

I?m really not buying the 600 mile claim. I bet the cluster was swapped or rolled back

Om1kron · 03-26-2022, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoffman5982

I?m really not buying the 600 mile claim. I bet the cluster was swapped or rolled back

probably swapped. my cluster has not recorded mileage ever since I've owned the car. Either it's not getting signal from where it's supposed to or the actual cluster is broken.

I've taken the cluster apart to try and service it and see if it was messed with to roll the miles back or if the odometer was disabled somehow. And without breaking the speedometer needle off I don't see how anyone could even get access to the gearing. It's a very delicate piece of plastic, pretty much designed to show you tried to access it.

mav1178 · 03-26-2022, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoffman5982

I?m really not buying the 600 mile claim. I bet the cluster was swapped or rolled back

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Originally Posted by Om1kron

probably swapped.

now it's been revealed that the "pilatus" user on BaT is Gary Duncan himself, and he's bidding on a car he currently owns via his dealership and is the current high bidder

time to pull this BS auction.

Hoffman5982 · 03-28-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

now it's been revealed that the "pilatus" user on BaT is Gary Duncan himself, and he's bidding on a car he currently owns via his dealership and is the current high bidder

time to pull this BS auction.

Looks like that was confirmed and the listing was pulled lol

KA24DESOneThree · 03-29-2022, 08:18 AM

Dude claimed to own a PC-12. That could mean fractional ownership, it could mean outright. PC-12s range from $2.5mm to $8mm.

Why risk your reputation over three payments on your private plane?

dizzariot · 03-29-2022, 09:30 PM

Can't post the video from work's network, but Crimson is YT famous. Go to YouTube and check 'Duncan Import vs. Zilvia' lol.

WE ON THE MAP, BABY.

mav1178 · 03-29-2022, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzariot

Can't post the video from work's network, but Crimson is YT famous. Go to YouTube and check 'Duncan Import vs. Zilvia' lol.

WE ON THE MAP, BABY.

yeah, great video until the guy said "Anodized red radiator pulley"

mav1178 · 03-29-2022, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Dude claimed to own a PC-12. That could mean fractional ownership, it could mean outright. PC-12s range from $2.5mm to $8mm.

Why risk your reputation over three payments on your private plane?

I read some of his other comments on previous auctions, based on what he comments about he seems like a very arrogant person that thinks he can do no wrong.

Some people are just this way.

dizzariot · 03-30-2022, 11:37 PM

He is trying to say that he was not purposely inflating his sale price. There is a screenshot of a message from BaT where they insist that he keep the auction up since it's already experiencing bids. I understand having two accounts for private bidding and business, but his comments on the red S14 did not indicate that he was trying to buy his own car back 'for the greater good'. Does anyone have screenshots of his comments on the post?

mav1178 · 03-31-2022, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzariot

He is trying to say that he was not purposely inflating his sale price. There is a screenshot of a message from BaT where they insist that he keep the auction up since it's already experiencing bids. I understand having two accounts for private bidding and business, but his comments on the red S14 did not indicate that he was trying to buy his own car back 'for the greater good'. Does anyone have screenshots of his comments on the post?

just go back to the auction and see the comments.

or see his profile: https://bringatrailer.com/member/pilatus/

slider2828 · 04-01-2022, 03:34 PM

Nice job guys!!! you were posted in Jalopnik as enthusiasts.... really good stuff!

leftfootbrake · 04-19-2022, 10:11 AM

Hello everyone. I have a 1992 rs13 in Aztec Red. Other than a megasquirt ECU my car is stock.

I want to install kouki aero and am not sure if I should purchase OEM side skirts. For the money I can get an OEM spoiler and dorkidori sideskirts.

The issue being that in order to properly install them I need to drill the rocker panels - this is not going to happen. Could some of you shed light if you have installed OEM sideskirts without drilling holes in the body and how that compares to dorkidori. Thanks.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 04-19-2022, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by leftfootbrake

The issue being that in order to properly install them I need to drill the rocker panels - this is not going to happen. Could some of you shed light if you have installed OEM sideskirts without drilling holes in the body and how that compares to dorkidori. Thanks.

my skirts have a 90deg flange at the door to allow use of 3M VHB tape to affix the skirt to the door sil... instead of that stupid clip system that requires holes, screws, clips etc. much easier to mount!

tuzzio · 04-19-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

allow use of 3M VHB tape to affix the skirt to the door sill!

Dorki told me about this stuff about a year ago. Clean your surface well and its fucking magical.

Sonic180sx · 04-24-2022, 04:18 PM

Always loved the OEM+ look. The red S13 was my first car. Bought it for $3700 when I got my drivers license back when I was 16 years old. Painted it factory black and went a full OEM Type conversion (minus the wheels, suspension, FMIC and a few interior items).

Sold it 10 years ago to buy an apartment. Now a decade later I got back in the game and importing an authentic 180sx Type X (silver car). Planning to keep everything OEM, with a couple Nismo old logo additions.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 04-24-2022, 05:43 PM

Im gonna ask a big question... especially since no one can give a direct answer as the term came from the Volkswagen scene.

WHAT IS OEM+?????

to me it seems like a blanket term for youngins who are far past us old dudes that use OEM+ to describe "OEM" style aero with factory "type x" lights and upgrades ("type x" aero is actually called 180sx kouki aero btw)

back in our day... OEM aero was just OEM aero.

INPUT PLEASE because the term makes NO SENSE in my mind!

danbarnett123 · 04-24-2022, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

WHAT IS OEM+?????

In my opinion, it means utilizing OEM parts but not necessarily meant for your car. Z and R parts come to mind.
So yes, I would agree that you are correct that type X and 180sx parts on an s13 is simply OEM.

Great bump, bring back zilvia!

LoSt180 · 04-25-2022, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

Im gonna ask a big question... especially since no one can give a direct answer as the term came from the Volkswagen scene.

WHAT IS OEM+?????

to me it seems like a blanket term for youngins who are far past us old dudes that use OEM+ to describe "OEM" style aero with factory "type x" lights and upgrades ("type x" aero is actually called 180sx kouki aero btw)

back in our day... OEM aero was just OEM aero.

INPUT PLEASE because the term makes NO SENSE in my mind!

OEM+ 'should' describe an all OEM car with minor, tasteful mods that keep the OEM look. Think a car with OEM aero, OEM wheels, with minor performance mods (FMIC, exhaust, maybe springs) and that's it.

If someone is running coilovers slammed to the ground, large wheels and a 'built' engine, that's no longer OEM+ in my opinion.

Just wait until us old guys start throwing out some BS like "numbers matching all original". Ugh, I kinda dread that day.

BryanSayWhat · 04-25-2022, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

Im gonna ask a big question... especially since no one can give a direct answer as the term came from the Volkswagen scene.

WHAT IS OEM+?????

to me it seems like a blanket term for youngins who are far past us old dudes that use OEM+ to describe "OEM" style aero with factory "type x" lights and upgrades ("type x" aero is actually called 180sx kouki aero btw)

back in our day... OEM aero was just OEM aero.

INPUT PLEASE because the term makes NO SENSE in my mind!

Here's a good "modern" example from Subaru (I'm not going to ruin this thread with a pic of a non Nissan car): https://response.jp/article/2018/12/26/317528.html (use google translate if you want full details)

Basically Subaru made the WRX STI TC380 with OEM optional aero bits, HKS turbo/ exhaust, HKS coilovers, Work M.C.O. rims, Advan A052 tires, SYMS chassis damper and Recaro seats (along with other small upgrades). They literlally just took a OEM car and put some cohesive aftermarket upgrades on it to make it "+".

***FaLKoN240*** · 04-25-2022, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

Im gonna ask a big question... especially since no one can give a direct answer as the term came from the Volkswagen scene.

WHAT IS OEM+?????

to me it seems like a blanket term for youngins who are far past us old dudes that use OEM+ to describe "OEM" style aero with factory "type x" lights and upgrades ("type x" aero is actually called 180sx kouki aero btw)

back in our day... OEM aero was just OEM aero.

INPUT PLEASE because the term makes NO SENSE in my mind!

I think OEM plus means using OEM options with some aftermarket items to upgrade the look.

Like a full kouki type x with coilovers, wheels and bucket seats for example.

AKADriver · 04-26-2022, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

Im gonna ask a big question... especially since no one can give a direct answer as the term came from the Volkswagen scene.

WHAT IS OEM+?????

to me it seems like a blanket term for youngins who are far past us old dudes that use OEM+ to describe "OEM" style aero with factory "type x" lights and upgrades ("type x" aero is actually called 180sx kouki aero btw)

back in our day... OEM aero was just OEM aero.

INPUT PLEASE because the term makes NO SENSE in my mind!

I first heard of the term back in my watercooled VW owning days (circa 2001) as a reaction to the typical VW show car look of that era (candy colors, Vader body kits, aftermarket everything). Since US-spec VWs were always so watered down just like Nissans there was a ton of room for customization between euro-market parts, Audi and Skoda parts, etc. to create something that was personalized and amazing but still within the bounds of "how the factory could've done it"

It was just like what we used to call "JDM" before that term got bastardized to mean cars with lots of Japanese *aftermarket* parts, drift sluts, etc. It was the same look... one of the cars that got me into the 240SX was Slide Squad Mark's Silvia conversion:

https://www.motortrend.com/features/...drifting-cars/

Marcus · 08-12-2022, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

WHAT IS OEM+?????

INPUT PLEASE because the term makes NO SENSE in my mind!

i fcking hate all the new terms these days. the new kids are stupid and cringeworthy

AKADriver · 08-13-2022, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus

i fcking hate all the new terms these days. the new kids are stupid and cringeworthy

I said this already but we were using the term "OEM+" to describe this style on VWVortex 20 years ago.

https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/oem.../#post-1958928

ingmar F · 04-25-2022, 04:13 AM

in my opinion OEM+ is stock body, no wide fenders, OEM bumpers maybe with a little lip or subtile skirt. so that it stays true to the original. and if you are doing mods they should be reversible.

silviaks2nr · 04-25-2022, 09:09 AM

I would say mostly original exterior + better suspension, wheels, minor interior updates, and not unreasonably low. Could go either way with engine swaps.

S14_Sak · 04-25-2022, 06:57 PM

My first post of my s14! Still needs a lot of work but getting there slowly. Next thing that has to go is that cannon ball lol.

fortune auto 500s
18" bbs lm
navan rear spat
oem kouki side skirt
oem jdm front bumper
basic boltons with gt28r

dizzariot · 04-25-2022, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic180sx

Sold it 10 years ago to buy an apartment. Now a decade later I got back in the game and importing an authentic 180sx Type X (silver car). Planning to keep everything OEM, with a couple Nismo old logo additions.

Oof. I know you paid for that shit. My AJ4 SpecR came from them...and I had to replace the coil packs when it showed up. Not trying to put a damper on your mood, but Space Auto overcharges and doesn't even do routine checks. Pissed me off. Beyond that, I had no problems with the car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by silviaks2nr

I would say mostly original exterior + better suspension, wheels, minor interior updates, and not unreasonably low. Could go either way with engine swaps.

This is what I had in mind when I made this thread. OEM in appearance, but with a drop and nice wheels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14_Sak

My first post of my s14! Still needs a lot of work but getting there slowly. Next thing that has to go is that cannon ball lol.

Please post more of this car lol.

Marcus · 08-13-2022, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzariot

This is what I had in mind when I made this thread. OEM in appearance, but with a drop and nice wheels.

Alright i can understand. Previously the thread was just "preservation" wasnt it?

anyway, i had this idea in mind for my car. only jdm kouki aero, but i added chargespeed overs. Kept the oem-ish look, but just more aggressive

03-24-2022, 06:02 PM	#1
dizzariot Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 5,516 Trader Rating: (47) Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Dude I'm hoping that if Zilvia stays up, we will see an influx of owners on this thread. Times are changing.... __________________ *The mark of a true sucka: 'RARE JDM' & 'OLD LOGO NISMO'*

03-25-2022, 02:20 PM	#2
ccalahan Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Jacksonville NC Age: 44 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Picked up a 1990 S13, unmolested. Currently working a coolant/head gasket/cracked head or block issue at the moment. Bought last year in North Carolina, had a seized engine. Bought another KA24E off eBay and she's smoking white out the tailpipe like crazy. Installed new head gasket, torqued down properly and everything, still smokes. Points to a crack. This sucks. Not giving up! I had a 1991 S13 back in the late 90's after joining the Air Force and I will get this baby back to operating again! Keeping her stock and most likely will get an updated paint job at some point. Last edited by ccalahan; 03-25-2022 at 02:30 PM.. Reason: adding photo

03-25-2022, 04:41 PM	#3
Hoffman5982 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Definitely NOT FL.... Age: 32 Posts: 2,504 Trader Rating: (25) Feedback Score: 25 reviews	I?m really not buying the 600 mile claim. I bet the cluster was swapped or rolled back __________________

03-29-2022, 09:30 PM	#8
dizzariot Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 5,516 Trader Rating: (47) Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Can't post the video from work's network, but Crimson is YT famous. Go to YouTube and check 'Duncan Import vs. Zilvia' lol. WE ON THE MAP, BABY. __________________ *The mark of a true sucka: 'RARE JDM' & 'OLD LOGO NISMO'*

03-30-2022, 11:37 PM	#11
dizzariot Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 5,516 Trader Rating: (47) Feedback Score: 47 reviews	He is trying to say that he was not purposely inflating his sale price. There is a screenshot of a message from BaT where they insist that he keep the auction up since it's already experiencing bids. I understand having two accounts for private bidding and business, but his comments on the red S14 did not indicate that he was trying to buy his own car back 'for the greater good'. Does anyone have screenshots of his comments on the post? __________________ *The mark of a true sucka: 'RARE JDM' & 'OLD LOGO NISMO'*

03-29-2022, 08:18 AM	#7
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 38 Posts: 2,554 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Dude claimed to own a PC-12. That could mean fractional ownership, it could mean outright. PC-12s range from $2.5mm to $8mm. Why risk your reputation over three payments on your private plane?

04-01-2022, 03:34 PM	#13
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Nice job guys!!! you were posted in Jalopnik as enthusiasts.... really good stuff! __________________ Turn and Burn!

04-19-2022, 10:11 AM	#14
leftfootbrake Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Sofia City Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hello everyone. I have a 1992 rs13 in Aztec Red. Other than a megasquirt ECU my car is stock. I want to install kouki aero and am not sure if I should purchase OEM side skirts. For the money I can get an OEM spoiler and dorkidori sideskirts. The issue being that in order to properly install them I need to drill the rocker panels - this is not going to happen. Could some of you shed light if you have installed OEM sideskirts without drilling holes in the body and how that compares to dorkidori. Thanks.

04-24-2022, 04:18 PM	#17
Sonic180sx Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario Age: 40 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Always loved the OEM+ look. The red S13 was my first car. Bought it for $3700 when I got my drivers license back when I was 16 years old. Painted it factory black and went a full OEM Type conversion (minus the wheels, suspension, FMIC and a few interior items). Sold it 10 years ago to buy an apartment. Now a decade later I got back in the game and importing an authentic 180sx Type X (silver car). Planning to keep everything OEM, with a couple Nismo old logo additions.

04-24-2022, 05:43 PM	#18
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,492 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Im gonna ask a big question... especially since no one can give a direct answer as the term came from the Volkswagen scene. WHAT IS OEM+????? to me it seems like a blanket term for youngins who are far past us old dudes that use OEM+ to describe "OEM" style aero with factory "type x" lights and upgrades ("type x" aero is actually called 180sx kouki aero btw) back in our day... OEM aero was just OEM aero. INPUT PLEASE because the term makes NO SENSE in my mind! __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!

04-25-2022, 04:13 AM	#26
ingmar F Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: holland Age: 36 Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	in my opinion OEM+ is stock body, no wide fenders, OEM bumpers maybe with a little lip or subtile skirt. so that it stays true to the original. and if you are doing mods they should be reversible.

04-25-2022, 09:09 AM	#27
silviaks2nr Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,192 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I would say mostly original exterior + better suspension, wheels, minor interior updates, and not unreasonably low. Could go either way with engine swaps. __________________ '98 240sx 5spd kouki 2jz t56 swap build

04-25-2022, 06:57 PM	#28
S14_Sak Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My first post of my s14! Still needs a lot of work but getting there slowly. Next thing that has to go is that cannon ball lol. fortune auto 500s 18" bbs lm navan rear spat oem kouki side skirt oem jdm front bumper basic boltons with gt28r Last edited by S14_Sak; 04-25-2022 at 07:13 PM.. Reason: added more info