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Old 11-29-2008, 04:20 PM   #1
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^^^^^^
Not meaning to start an arguement...

Optimal wheel base depends on what kind of racing the car is used for; a shorter wheel base would be better for autox and small courses, where as the 2+2 would probably be better for larger, higher speed courses.

wheel bases:
2 seater: 96.5 in.
2+2: 101.2 in.
^(I really doubt 5in. makes that much difference for general driving purposes)

As far as curb weights go, the tt's are a bit heavier (due to turbo's, hicas) at about 3500 lbs.
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Regardless, a car can still handle well despite extra weight (new GT-R for example, 3800 lbs.?). That being said, less weight is usually better.

In the end, it all comes down to which one fits you better as far as performance needs go or which one looks better to you. Personally, Function > Form.
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^^^^^^
Not meaning to start an arguement...

Optimal wheel base depends on what kind of racing the car is used for; a shorter wheel base would be better for autox and small courses, where as the 2+2 would probably be better for larger, higher speed courses.

wheel bases:
2 seater: 96.5 in.
2+2: 101.2 in.
^(I really doubt 5in. makes that much difference for general driving purposes)

As far as curb weights go, the tt's are a bit heavier (due to turbo's, hicas) at about 3500 lbs.
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Regardless, a car can still handle well despite extra weight (new GT-R for example, 3800 lbs.?). That being said, less weight is usually better.

In the end, it all comes down to which one fits you better as far as performance needs go or which one looks better to you. Personally, Function > Form.
Heh, guess I got my weights wrong. Either way, the TT 2+2 is the heaviest of the bunch. And yes, the extra length does make a different. I know of several owners who have driven both chassis at different events and have noticed the differences in how they naturally respond.

Granted, the shorter wheelbase is nice for autocrosses, but IMO, the 2+2 is the more ideal chassis for the majority of driving events, such as road racing and drifting. Has a more neutral feel to it, while the 2+0 has the natural tendency to snap.
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Interesting, I've driven a z32 2 seater a little (both as n/a and tt), now I'm curious to see how a 2+2 drives... Good to know.

Very nice z by the way.

A question for JRas:
How close is your wheel/tire to the coilover in the front? If you have a picture...
Just considering wheel options for a project and the 10" rpf1's were some I was looking at.
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Interesting, I've driven a z32 2 seater a little (both as n/a and tt), now I'm curious to see how a 2+2 drives... Good to know.

Very nice z by the way.

A question for JRas:
How close is your wheel/tire to the coilover in the front? If you have a picture...
Just considering wheel options for a project and the 10" rpf1's were some I was looking at.
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it's close, I really should take a picture but I haven't done it yet

edit took picture:
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it's close, I really should take a picture but I haven't done it yet

I may snap one off and edit this later today
What coilovers are you running? The +25's clear mccoy's koni set-up. They MIGHT clear tein's with a 3-5mm spacer.
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275/50/15 MT Drag Radials on 15x8 Weld Draglites with 4.5inch backspacing. Suspension is stance gr pro+ coils





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wow drag car with stance coils what springs do you have in it? i would have thought the coilovers would suck for drag?
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They do!!! I normally run stock struts in the back for drag racing. I can't find any pics of it with stock stuff in on the drag radials on.

This was from the test fitting. Figured it was a good way to make sure they dont hit the fenders.

Car is not really a drag car. I do road racing, auto-x, and drag racing with it when there is not snow on the ground.
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wow you do all 3 thats cool im sure you know most people only do one and talk shit on the rest. shit i would like to drift drag and road race i guess im wierd. btw your car is super nice keep it up
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wow you do all 3 thats cool im sure you know most people only do one and talk shit on the rest. shit i would like to drift drag and road race i guess im wierd. btw your car is super nice keep it up
Thanks.... All i got left is the body work/paint, cage, and some minor things. Just the stuff I can't do on my own left. However, not sure how far I am going to go with this car. I have to figure out when to stop throwing money at it. I got a wrx and sad to say it, its way to much fun for a stock car.




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what tire should i run to have a flat side wall on 18x9 and 18x10 wheels?

im runnin`now 215/40 and 245/35, dont like the stretch look and will go with over fenders

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what tire should i run to have a flat side wall on 18x9 and 18x10 wheels?
265/315 worked great on mine.
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265/315 worked great on mine.
Jesus christ! Waaaayyyyyyy too much stagger. Can anybody say understeer. I bet the rear end stuck like crazy though.
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Jesus christ! Waaaayyyyyyy too much stagger. Can anybody say understeer. I bet the rear end stuck like crazy though.
It wasn't on a 240 though. It had torque.

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245/275 stagger for flat sidewalls. will need more fender work for it to fit under the fenders though.
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245/275 stagger for flat sidewalls. will need more fender work for it to fit under the fenders though.
I think a 255/275 set-up would work better, 245/275 is too much stagger. The 255's will be exactly square with the 9" front wheels, the 275's will be just a little undersquare on the 10" rear wheels.
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im runnin`now 215/40 and 245/35, dont like the stretch look and will go with over fenders
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245/275 stagger for flat sidewalls. will need more fender work for it to fit under the fenders though.
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k, i wana run 275's rear. i have 17x10.5 + 24 wheels with a 8mm spacer.
will i need more of a spacer to clear the coils or anything?
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245 and 275 would be a good idea, cause i could take the tyres from the rear to the front, so i only had to buy the 2 275 tyres for the rear
what do you think?
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Hey olah.inc any updates on your car? Looking forward to seeing the 245 or 255 fronts and 275 rears. 255s as racepar1 said are square, 245 will be okay I guess, but you could take advantage of 255s... plus less stagger.
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dude, no updates. car still standes in the garage fuckin winter goes like hell.
but next year i will go for bigger tires, maybe semi slicks like toyo r888 or some
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dude, no updates. car still standes in the garage fuckin winter goes like hell.
but next year i will go for bigger tires, maybe semi slicks like toyo r888 or some
That's the tire I want to run next. They make a 315/30-19 that I'm liking. The only downside is like the RT-615's. If they're cold, they're horrible.
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alright i need some help... im running a 18x10 +12 in rear and when doing a pull. a dent formed above the center on the fender... here are the pics, if you can see it, how would i go about getting this dent out??



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alright i need some help... im running a 18x10 +12 in rear and when doing a pull. a dent formed above the center on the fender... here are the pics, if you can see it, how would i go about getting this dent out??
That's normal, happens with almost every pull. You really can't get it out though without bodywork as the metal is being held in that position by the additional pressure put on the 1/4 panel due to pulling it. No paintless dent removal for that one.
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alright i need some help... im running a 18x10 +12 in rear and when doing a pull. a dent formed above the center on the fender... here are the pics, if you can see it, how would i go about getting this dent out??



That is what hppens when you distort meal.What it did was shrunk in on your quarter when you streached uot the edge.As far as a fix without messin up paint?
1 Get a wooden mop handel and cut it off long enough to reach.
2 remove your trunk/hatch pannels
3 Check leangth make sure you can fit it in "its hella tight back there"
4 Tape some raggs on the rounded end and push slowly and easy
any harsh movements will distort the metal again.
Note:Next time start by streaching your fender out by usein a scissor jack w/a pice of wood in your inside wheel tub then jack then another paice of wood about 6 inches long on the insde of the outter edge.This will help by moving the metal out before you move it up thus not bucklein in.Thats how I did mine but Ive dont lots of body work.Its all by feel.Hope this helps.
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can u post pix of ur car with those mounted, sounds hot
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can u post pix of ur car with those mounted, sounds hot
I'll link it since it's a domestic:
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And yes, they hid back there. I wanted to run 335s, but backed out of modding it any more and sold it.
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the dent occurs when you don't cut slits into the lip when u roll it, from what i'm told

too late now, but useful for future if u ever have to deal with another car
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Yea that happens if you dont cut the inner fender out before you do the pull. I see that happen to people all the time
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you have to put a basketball behind the fender and pump it up, thats how i did it
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