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ZX88 · 08-30-2006, 01:26 PM

well im about to order my 17x8 and went to my local discount tires to see how much the tire would cost the guy told me to get 225/45r17 91w General Exclaim uhp at $119 each. Does anyone nowthe qualitiy of these tires? The guy also qouted me for full intalation lugnuts and locks alinment, mounting, and road hazard for $627.

my car is also lowered on sportlines with gr2 so do i need spacers and will the tire rub?

Brian · 08-30-2006, 01:40 PM

For that price per tire, you can get tires that we have actually heard of.
Federal
Yokohama
Dunlop
Falken

A Spec Products · 08-30-2006, 01:45 PM

wow

talk about getting BOWED up

your tire shop is pretty wack

just buy tires online

discounttiredirect.com has good prices free shipping

cgguy · 08-30-2006, 02:03 PM

General Exclaim UHP aren't bad tires. Unlike a lot of the newer cheap-o tires (like Federal) that are made in China General is an American manufacturer owned by Continental Tire.

They actually did pretty well in a lot of tire reviews I've read. Thing is that's not a great price them. I'd sooner go with some Falken 451's, Azenis or Yoko AVS es100's for that money. Like A Spec said, buy online and save big bucks. It's the best way to go imo.

All that other stuff sounds a bit odd. Why is he charging you for lugnuts? and why is he assuming you want wheel locks? I also doubt he'll be doing an alignment....more likely balancing. Sounds like a bonehead to me.

redsuns3838 · 08-30-2006, 02:09 PM

go with a better brand, and what is your wheel offset? thats what will decide if tires rub/need spacers.

VROOOM · 08-30-2006, 02:42 PM

i just bought some yokohama es100's in that same size for a couple bucks cheaper a tire.

i got mine from discount tire.... but for the best deals go to tirerack.com (i needed my tires that day and discount tire is just down the street from me)

sw20>>s14 · 08-30-2006, 03:36 PM

you said you went to a DT right? well, go to DT online, order tires with free shipping, and bring it to a DT to mount and balance...you get huge discounts on mounting and balancing if you buy the tires through them online (same deal with tirerack, but theyre prices tend to suck more)...just try and do everything you can yourself...you dont have a tire machine or hunter balancer so leave that for the shop...buying the tires, lugnuts, wheel locks, etc. you can do on your own...youll save a lot more...as stated before, for that money per, there are many better choices out there...

A Spec Products · 08-30-2006, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgguy

They actually did pretty well in a lot of tire reviews I've read. Thing is that's not a great price them. I'd sooner go with some Falken 451's, Azenis or Yoko AVS es100's for that money.

451s are discontinued

452s replaced it, but they are decently more expensive than the 451s

yokohama es100s arent very good imo (maybe for daily drive its acceptable)

i still stand behind federal 595s

thats my jam right there

McRussellPants · 08-30-2006, 04:22 PM

General Exclaims... lol, ALLL SEAZZZZONNNZZZ

FK452s are a real nice tire, edge racing should have them for like 110$ or something.

VROOOM · 08-30-2006, 04:26 PM

the generals you want are $78 a piece at tire rack. also tire rack rates them as an ultra high performance summer tire.....not all season

chmercer · 08-30-2006, 04:37 PM

theyre M+S tires. lol. read the sidewall

general = dumpster city

Hailtothesilvia · 08-30-2006, 04:39 PM

Dunlop Direzza, best drift tires ever

i had a pair for 8 months in the front, never chunk, 6 events, and gripped consistently even w/ wear

I'm currently running ST115, been having them for 3 months now and i am very happy w/ them

Anyone has any input on Kumho SPT????? my roommate's owning a pair in the front right now said that he had no understeering issue even w/ mid 3rd gear entry turn. They're pretty cheap too, less than $100 bucks shipped from Discountires for 225/45/17

VROOOM · 08-30-2006, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chmercer

theyre M+S tires. lol. read the sidewall

general = dumpster city

thats just what Tire Rack says. ive never even seen the tires in person.

Jefferson · 08-30-2006, 05:05 PM

Wouldn't he be better off getting a 215-45-17 or a 235-40-17 instead of the 225-45-17 just so he won't be so off in the overall diameter. PLus I think the 225-45 has too tall of a sidewall at least IMO

OptionZero · 08-30-2006, 05:05 PM

225/45/17 Falken Azenis RT-615

$117 each IIRC

ZX88 · 08-30-2006, 05:18 PM

ok so i guess ill be buying some tires online also my wheel specs are sportmax 006 17x8 offset +35mm. i think that the sportmax rim require special lugnut or in gerneral tuner lug nuts. i dont really need a drift tire cause i daily drive this car so i want something that will be barable to drive on the street.

A Spec Products · 08-30-2006, 05:21 PM

eh yeah the tire debate could go on forever

tires are like jimmy hats
each person has their favorite
some fit some people some dont
some perform different under different conditions
if you use one and dont like it, you just get another and try it

so that being said, youll never know till you try

just use a tire that fits in your budget and driving style

Brian · 08-30-2006, 05:25 PM

so Logan.... I don't like ANY tires, right?

oh I amuse myself.

ZX88 · 08-30-2006, 05:37 PM

ok so here are some tires i found at distcounttiredirect.com all 225/45-17

Falken :

GR Beta FK-451 225/45ZR-17 91Y B
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...53&rd=17&ar=45

Ziex ZE-512 225/45ZR-17 94W REIN

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...51&rd=17&ar=45

KUMO TIRES

Ecsta SPT 225/45R-17 94Y XL B

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...19&rd=17&ar=45

NITO TIRES

NT NeoGen ZR 225/45ZR-17 94W BLK

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...18&rd=17&ar=45

Macadoshus · 08-30-2006, 05:43 PM

Might still be able to get the Falken 451's, I managed to get a pair a few days ago from my distributor.

McRussellPants · 08-30-2006, 05:45 PM

discount tire blows. Edge has all their tire selection for 15$ cheaper.

edge racing for the cheaper stuff.

Tire Rack for the ritzy Advan/Bridgestone stuff.

ZX88 · 08-30-2006, 05:56 PM

edge has cheaper tires but no free shipping DT is still cheaper.

A Spec Products · 08-30-2006, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

so Logan.... I don't like ANY tires, right?

oh I amuse myself.

ding ding ding! no pun intended

oh brian i can always count on you for the laughs

no rubbage no rubbahs drift team!

also, to stay on topic

i think i saw some 225/45/17 on special on Tirerack, so you might want to check their specials as well

goodyear GS-D3...oh on second glance, its for 215/45/17s, but eh if i had 17x8 id rather run 215s but thats just me

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/goodyear/goodyear.jsp

CKAMC · 08-30-2006, 06:33 PM

Hmm for that 215 I would like a 40 wall more but it depends on what the specs of the tire say as each brand is different from the other. I run 215/45/17 continentials on a 17x7.5 and its a good stretch already... I myself wont put them on 8's but thats your call.

OptionZero · 08-30-2006, 06:45 PM

vulcantire as an alternative

if you're not gonna drive the car hard at all, just get the cheapest tires possible, shoot

A Spec Products · 08-30-2006, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKAMC

Hmm for that 215 I would like a 40 wall more but it depends on what the specs of the tire say as each brand is different from the other. I run 215/45/17 continentials on a 17x7.5 and its a good stretch already... I myself wont put them on 8's but thats your call.

215/45/17 on a 7.5 is NOT a stretch bro

215/45/17s on 17x9s all day urrday

and now that i run the chubbier federal 595s the stretch isnt as apparent

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optionzero

if you're not gonna drive the car hard at all, just get the cheapest tires possible, shoot.

True dat in the hoo dat.

For my beater I run $29 tires...195/60/14 babyyyy

crazyikimasho · 08-30-2006, 06:53 PM

as Rogan-san said...

17x9 on Federal SS595 215/45 17

A Spec Products · 08-30-2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justified2.4

as Rogan-san said...

17x9 on Federal SS595 215/45 17

its a cali thang babehhhhh

throw up the W!

crazyikimasho · 08-30-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

For my beater I run $29 tires...195/60/14 babyyyy

how wide are those wheels and do they stretch any? Im thinking maybe a 6" wheel and you should run a 225 so that there isnt too much stretch

trsilvias13 · 08-30-2006, 07:29 PM

es100 are very heavy tires just a fact for you. i compare two tires that are 205 45 16 and es100 weighs more than dunlop sp9000, But es100 have harder sidewalls.

08-30-2006, 01:26 PM	#1
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 35 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	is this a good deal (tires) well im about to order my 17x8 and went to my local discount tires to see how much the tire would cost the guy told me to get 225/45r17 91w General Exclaim uhp at $119 each. Does anyone nowthe qualitiy of these tires? The guy also qouted me for full intalation lugnuts and locks alinment, mounting, and road hazard for $627. my car is also lowered on sportlines with gr2 so do i need spacers and will the tire rub?

08-30-2006, 01:40 PM	#2
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	For that price per tire, you can get tires that we have actually heard of. Federal Yokohama Dunlop Falken __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

08-30-2006, 01:45 PM	#3
A Spec Products Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,256 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	wow talk about getting BOWED up your tire shop is pretty wack just buy tires online discounttiredirect.com has good prices free shipping __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 103 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

08-30-2006, 03:36 PM	#7
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	you said you went to a DT right? well, go to DT online, order tires with free shipping, and bring it to a DT to mount and balance...you get huge discounts on mounting and balancing if you buy the tires through them online (same deal with tirerack, but theyre prices tend to suck more)...just try and do everything you can yourself...you dont have a tire machine or hunter balancer so leave that for the shop...buying the tires, lugnuts, wheel locks, etc. you can do on your own...youll save a lot more...as stated before, for that money per, there are many better choices out there... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

08-30-2006, 04:39 PM	#12
Hailtothesilvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Age: 41 Posts: 439 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dunlop Direzza, best drift tires ever i had a pair for 8 months in the front, never chunk, 6 events, and gripped consistently even w/ wear I'm currently running ST115, been having them for 3 months now and i am very happy w/ them Anyone has any input on Kumho SPT????? my roommate's owning a pair in the front right now said that he had no understeering issue even w/ mid 3rd gear entry turn. They're pretty cheap too, less than $100 bucks shipped from Discountires for 225/45/17 __________________ TAOspeedwagon II

08-30-2006, 02:03 PM	#4
cgguy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	General Exclaim UHP aren't bad tires. Unlike a lot of the newer cheap-o tires (like Federal) that are made in China General is an American manufacturer owned by Continental Tire. They actually did pretty well in a lot of tire reviews I've read. Thing is that's not a great price them. I'd sooner go with some Falken 451's, Azenis or Yoko AVS es100's for that money. Like A Spec said, buy online and save big bucks. It's the best way to go imo. All that other stuff sounds a bit odd. Why is he charging you for lugnuts? and why is he assuming you want wheel locks? I also doubt he'll be doing an alignment....more likely balancing. Sounds like a bonehead to me.

08-30-2006, 02:09 PM	#5
redsuns3838 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: dog town Posts: 969 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	go with a better brand, and what is your wheel offset? thats what will decide if tires rub/need spacers.

08-30-2006, 02:42 PM	#6
VROOOM Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LONG BEACH Posts: 2,713 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: VROOOM Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i just bought some yokohama es100's in that same size for a couple bucks cheaper a tire. i got mine from discount tire.... but for the best deals go to tirerack.com (i needed my tires that day and discount tire is just down the street from me)

08-30-2006, 04:22 PM	#9
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	General Exclaims... lol, ALLL SEAZZZZONNNZZZ FK452s are a real nice tire, edge racing should have them for like 110$ or something.

08-30-2006, 04:26 PM	#10
VROOOM Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LONG BEACH Posts: 2,713 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: VROOOM Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the generals you want are $78 a piece at tire rack. also tire rack rates them as an ultra high performance summer tire.....not all season

08-30-2006, 04:37 PM	#11
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 38 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theyre M+S tires. lol. read the sidewall general = dumpster city

08-30-2006, 05:05 PM	#14
Jefferson Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wouldn't he be better off getting a 215-45-17 or a 235-40-17 instead of the 225-45-17 just so he won't be so off in the overall diameter. PLus I think the 225-45 has too tall of a sidewall at least IMO

08-30-2006, 05:05 PM	#15
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	225/45/17 Falken Azenis RT-615 $117 each IIRC

08-30-2006, 05:18 PM	#16
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 35 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	ok so i guess ill be buying some tires online also my wheel specs are sportmax 006 17x8 offset +35mm. i think that the sportmax rim require special lugnut or in gerneral tuner lug nuts. i dont really need a drift tire cause i daily drive this car so i want something that will be barable to drive on the street.

08-30-2006, 05:21 PM	#17
A Spec Products Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,256 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	eh yeah the tire debate could go on forever tires are like jimmy hats each person has their favorite some fit some people some dont some perform different under different conditions if you use one and dont like it, you just get another and try it so that being said, youll never know till you try just use a tire that fits in your budget and driving style __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 103 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

08-30-2006, 05:25 PM	#18
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	so Logan.... I don't like ANY tires, right? oh I amuse myself. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

08-30-2006, 05:37 PM	#19
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 35 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	ok so here are some tires i found at distcounttiredirect.com all 225/45-17 Falken : GR Beta FK-451 225/45ZR-17 91Y B http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...53&rd=17&ar=45 Ziex ZE-512 225/45ZR-17 94W REIN http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...51&rd=17&ar=45 KUMO TIRES Ecsta SPT 225/45R-17 94Y XL B http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...19&rd=17&ar=45 NITO TIRES NT NeoGen ZR 225/45ZR-17 94W BLK http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...18&rd=17&ar=45

08-30-2006, 05:43 PM	#20
Macadoshus Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lansdale, PA Age: 43 Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Macadoshus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Might still be able to get the Falken 451's, I managed to get a pair a few days ago from my distributor. __________________ R/T Tuning

08-30-2006, 05:45 PM	#21
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	discount tire blows. Edge has all their tire selection for 15$ cheaper. edge racing for the cheaper stuff. Tire Rack for the ritzy Advan/Bridgestone stuff.

08-30-2006, 05:56 PM	#22
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 35 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	edge has cheaper tires but no free shipping DT is still cheaper.

08-30-2006, 06:33 PM	#24
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 37 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm for that 215 I would like a 40 wall more but it depends on what the specs of the tire say as each brand is different from the other. I run 215/45/17 continentials on a 17x7.5 and its a good stretch already... I myself wont put them on 8's but thats your call. __________________

08-30-2006, 06:45 PM	#25
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	vulcantire as an alternative if you're not gonna drive the car hard at all, just get the cheapest tires possible, shoot

08-30-2006, 06:53 PM	#27
crazyikimasho Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,329 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	as Rogan-san said... 17x9 on Federal SS595 215/45 17 __________________ *PLEASE NOTE* I am no longer affiliated with West Covina Nissan.

08-30-2006, 07:29 PM	#30
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,994 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	es100 are very heavy tires just a fact for you. i compare two tires that are 205 45 16 and es100 weighs more than dunlop sp9000, But es100 have harder sidewalls.