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Old 09-15-2010, 02:18 AM   #1
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1970 gtr question

are they hard to come by?
if not would someone sell me the wheels?
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This isn't going to happen. Just letting you know so you don't get your hopes up high. They're too rare.
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There was one on eBay in So Cal. It's probably still available since the garage selling it wanted too much, especially considering the crack down on such vehicles.
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So you are asking for Hakoska wheels, real GT-R not GT-X Hakoska wheels??

A few notes,

1. The car is almost a national treasure, the REAL motor S20 on average cost 75k ALONE, however you can get a Hakoska for as little as 5k but it has an L20/24/28 in it never the S20, the wheels have been changed, and it looks and runs like crap a real project.

2. Thanks to Japans recycle laws that took place about 12 years ago, lots of things had to be crushed.

3. You might be able to find someone selling them cheap and lucky for you they have NO IDEA what they are worth.

4. If I find some I will tell you what they would cost ME to pick em up, though after you see the price you might decide to buy some Works, and Recaros for the same price.......
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:07 AM   #6
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So you are asking for Hakoska wheels, real GT-R not GT-X Hakoska wheels??

A few notes,

1. The car is almost a national treasure, the REAL motor S20 on average cost 75k ALONE, however you can get a Hakoska for as little as 5k but it has an L20/24/28 in it never the S20, the wheels have been changed, and it looks and runs like crap a real project.

2. Thanks to Japans recycle laws that took place about 12 years ago, lots of things had to be crushed.

3. You might be able to find someone selling them cheap and lucky for you they have NO IDEA what they are worth.

4. If I find some I will tell you what they would cost ME to pick em up, though after you see the price you might decide to buy some Works, and Recaros for the same price.......
Actually Japans recycling laws have been in place more like almost 30+ plus years. How do you think the original used Japanese engine and transmission business got started here stateside in the 80's lol.

As far as finding a S20 LOL naw forget about it. I could tell you stories about them tossing them in a Junk pile at Fuji like they were nothing. My friends dad used to race in Japan back in the late 60's early 70's. Yes they are Japanese. LOL
He was like "we had no idea" LOL.
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$75k for the S20? Not quite, saw a complete one on Yahoo Auctions last year that met the reserve price, and sold for about 2,800,000 (about $30k)

I see complete GT-R's starting at about $80k.
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The last one I seen on YAJ was priced at 75K then brought down to 50k and it SOLD.....I was like WTF...

Oh look there is one on YAJ now for 15,000 and its not pretty hahahaha....


I am still looking for these wheels

I think this is going to be as bad as finding a 432 Fairlady Z

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Old 09-18-2010, 09:26 PM   #9
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Maybe you should figure out how to correctly spell the name of the car. HAKOSUKA!

S20's can be bought brand new from OS Giken as a full long block crate motor. They're very expensive though.

OP forget the wheels man you'll never get them, just buy dome TE37v's alot of the guys have put those on there kpgc10's here anyways, either that or rs wats.


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So you are asking for Hakoska wheels, real GT-R not GT-X Hakoska wheels??

A few notes,

1. The car is almost a national treasure, the REAL motor S20 on average cost 75k ALONE, however you can get a Hakoska for as little as 5k but it has an L20/24/28 in it never the S20, the wheels have been changed, and it looks and runs like crap a real project.

2. Thanks to Japans recycle laws that took place about 12 years ago, lots of things had to be crushed.

3. You might be able to find someone selling them cheap and lucky for you they have NO IDEA what they are worth.

4. If I find some I will tell you what they would cost ME to pick em up, though after you see the price you might decide to buy some Works, and Recaros for the same price.......
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Maybe you should figure out how to correctly spell the name of the car. HAKOSUKA!

S20's can be bought brand new from OS Giken as a full long block crate motor. They're very expensive though.

OP forget the wheels man you'll never get them, just buy dome TE37v's alot of the guys have put those on there kpgc10's here anyways, either that or rs wats.
My spelling has nothing to do with the matter, the request is almost impossible!

That post was dead on, its borderline impossible to get ORIGINAL parts, not REMAKES Like OS sells.
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i'm down for remakes.. i just like the way the rim looks
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these r the 1s i'm lookin for
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ooh i get it now hakosuka roughly translates to box sky
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Those aren't original GT-R wheels


These are.




Those are just Watanabes. If you want a knockoff of those, get Konig Rewinds.
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i might just have to go wit the xxrs
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are they hard to come by?
if not would someone sell me the wheels?
Ok as for the watanabe's wheels they are out there just have too look for them just way to many FWD offsets sitting on a lot of RWD cars, a lot of the true enthusiast dont have money now to buy the right stuff but a lot of posers have come on to the scene lately.


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This isn't going to happen. Just letting you know so you don't get your hopes up high. They're too rare.
they are out there just have to look for them.
funny enough I had a set of the skinnys that are normally found on the GT-R and I tossed them not knowing what they are - LOL.



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There was one on eBay in So Cal. It's probably still available since the garage selling it wanted too much, especially considering the crack down on such vehicles.
It's been sold and its on its way back to japan . got enough honda civic and ghey trade offers, not coming into here to under cut you in any way but the point of the 'crackdown' you speak of is due to some crack heads in canada using NAFTA IMPORT trade tarriff to side step USCBP and customs import taxes and in that case i'd like to thank the snake head who did this - good jerb a-hole. crack down for the most part was people importing/smuggling in complete vehicles. if the car was over 25 years or older it's not a prob.

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$75k for the S20? Not quite, saw a complete one on Yahoo Auctions last year that met the reserve price, and sold for about 2,800,000 (about $30k)
Dude, seriously did you bother to check that car the rust it had let alone the engine was completely fucked it was and correct me if I'm wrong was just a very expensive resto project and for the most part any S20 powered Hakosouka & Ken/Merry is not only a pedigree Nissan classic but they present do present a hurdle to own one.


Hakasouka Skyline GT-R (S20 DOHC) - with original engine matching # to the fire wall tag - 20,000-35,000 - this is rough with rust and needing a lot of work

Unrestrored good clean condtion
Hakasouka GTR (DOHC) $40,000+
Ken&merry GTR (DOHC) $50,000+

perfect full 100% restored car - this is or would be a 100pt car.
Hakasouka $95,000-130,000
Ken&Merry $120,000


just for info a good condition S20 engine rebuilt to perfect stock spec
$45,000 just for the motor.


obscure rare one offs
Hakasouka 4dr (supercharged) there was only 1 special order made for export and I believe it's LHD as a one off.
LY head cross flow SOHC motor in a Hakasouka


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yeah, you can see them but they wont sell it to you for that price shipped.

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Those aren't original GT-R wheels
These are.
I had a set of those and tossed them into the trash. .

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i might just have to go wit the xxrs
Just research do your home work and dont window shop with out money in your hand to deal, can't tell you how that pisses off shop owners in japan.
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No, I was saying the engine alone goes for about $30k.

Real genuine Hako GT-R's are currently going for $100k+ due to the shitty exchange rate.
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No, I was saying the engine alone goes for about $30k.

Real genuine Hako GT-R's are currently going for $100k+ due to the shitty exchange rate.
I'd hold off on any classic japanese built cars now, since people know the GT-R history your going to pay a lot more then you can think of and the $4,000 junkyard find days are wayyyyyyyyy over.


some people got very lucky and now things have changed a lot now, wont find them any more, believe it or not most of these cars have been exported and the rarity they are becoming now -supply and demand , giving places like red megaphone reason to charge 100,000usd for a 97point car. when there are a couple 100point cars being sold for more or less then the price mentioned.


I belove red-megaphone has a KPGC110 GTR for sale in the area of $145,000usd and a Z432-R for $180k
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LOL there was a place in Cali selling one for $25k on eBay last year (with no bids I may add - probably because driving these on US streets is a gamble). Whoever paid $180k is a complete _______.
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LOL there was a place in Cali selling one for $25k on eBay last year (with no bids I may add - probably because driving these on US streets is a gamble).
you mean the bono covered floor board cars ?


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I don't know, depends how much your valuing your time. If its the right car with 100pt restoration and would like something that can

A) appreciate in value.
B) rare,diffident& offer a wow factor.
C) cost a fraction of other pedigree cars that cost well over $250,000



Like or not some won't be able to afford a vintage Nissan Skyline C10/GC110 one, and the chances of finding one abandoned in a feild or a rare junk yard in japan are long gone. The last KGC110 car I had, was a one owner car since new, with that said beating down the prices on them wont happen and we will all see the prices skyrocket on the late 60"s and early 70's Japanese GT sports cars.

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