My thoughts on the imports scene - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

AZN GTR · 08-10-2002, 10:08 PM

I have been into cars since I was about 12.  Maybe it's because I lived in Hong Kong for 12 years, I always like Japanese cars, and when I first got here, I always wish there were more people hooking Japanese cars.  However, recently, it's been pissing me off that people are modifying their imports, because now, it's not really about speed and performance, it's about huge body kits, altezzas, oversized heavy rims, loud exhaust, putting other cars' tail and head lights in another car, alumimum wings (esp. on FF), loud stereo systems, driving with one hand and sitting int he middle of the car and putting the seat all the way back.  People think all the stuff above are cool now.  And the whole Honda pride crap.  When I was in middle school, and I talked to friends about what car they want, most American kids would say a mustang, now you ask them, it's probably a freaking civic so they can rice it.  I don't like American cars, but I know for sure that mustangs are better than civics a lot because at least they are sports cars, not economy cars.  
After coming back from Hong Kong, it pisses me off even more, because most people over there do it right, (there are still some ricers, mostly civics that aren't type r)  and then I come back, and I see people driving with one hand sitting in the middle of the car with loud music driving around and racing people, it seriously makes me angry.
I remember my dad told me he had an alfa romeo when he was young and used to race it and tell me all these stories and stuff, now , can you imagine how sad it will be in ten or twenty years when these teenagers become fathers and telling their kids that they drove a civic with a big body kit, 20 inch rims, and a alumimum wing?  God, this is terrible.  I just had to express my feelings.

KiDyNomiTe · 08-10-2002, 10:27 PM

most mullet boys say mustangs are crap too <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> . I don't hate domestics and I don't love them, just another car on the road.

Well the import scene is getting way out of hand, we are slowly getting away from the basics, and now going into havign certain things for bragging rights. More and more people are fixing up autos, and more and more people just get turbos to say they have a turbo or to hear the BOV. As long as I never turn into one of them I wil be happy. I figure it's time to just start ignoring them, and going on with your life. I have seen so many debates on here about people talking to someone who think this is better than that, and bla bla bla. Oh well... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

MasterOFDrift · 08-11-2002, 01:47 AM

Yes Azn GTR I totally know how you feel. THe ricer bug has infected the majority of highschool teens and the Fast and the Furious obviously helped it spread. The sadest thing about this whole situation is that not only do these people just drive around racing everyone they all brag about how fast their stock economy cars are. I was talking to one of my friends and yes it is a girl about what car she is getting she just got her license back then and she said a prelude and it is already really fast and modded out. I believed her whole story about the previous owner making lotsa a mods to that car. Engine work, 2000 dollar rims etc. Then when I see the car and check out the engine I became very disappointed and realized how rice has infected all who are ignorant. She didn't even have a v-tec engine or even a intake her rims where ass ugly and heavy also. (sorry for babling ricers bother me)

SprungScorp · 08-11-2002, 01:53 AM

My thought on the Import Scene: Import Models rock and the cars just happen to be there. Example: Import Revolution. You always hear about the IRev GIRLS, never the IRev Cars. But hell, Im not complaining.

NervGS · 08-11-2002, 04:42 AM

The "Import Scene" sucks ass.  Any kind of "scene" sucks.  I personally HATE show cars, people bragging about their cars, etc, thats like 99% of this whole "import scene."

I tend to stick to my own, no scene, no whatever.  Just my own thoughts, and what I like.

I had been into cars since I was 13 years old, starting with an FD, then just studying more and more.  It also helps that mom used to be into cars when she was my age 31 years ago, and had stories to tell when I was younger.  What does she think of all this here?  SHIT.  She likes a few of my friend's cars that are clean, but majority she see's on California streets...  What does she think about it in Japan?  She doesn't really care for it, but its still more or less how it was when she was drving and stuff when she was living there.

Magazines like super street make it worse, exploting "trends" done in Japan when they've been doing it for like 30 years.

Import models suck.

My 02. cents.

-glenn

kanekz · 08-11-2002, 05:04 AM

The import scene has been down hill since around 1997. Thats when all the ricy kits started to come out and all the imatation products. Around 99', it hit new lows with mad different combinations of lighting products. Around 00' the IS300 (Altezza) came to the states, which led to the production of Altezza taillights. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> A very sad moment in time.

Im Nisei (2nd Gen Japanese) and all my relatives live in Japan. I have been there dozens of times. Over time, I have got to see how the real spirit of building/tuning your own car is.  It is so different over there.  Most drivers have respect for other drivers on the road and are so much more courteous. I'm 20 yrs old now. I started getting into cars around 12-13. I always wanted to drive though ever since 8. My older brother was a "Rotary" type guy. All he ever drove/crashed (just 1) were FC's. This was back around 1994 and the "import scene" (which it wasnt called back then) was really TRUE to the Japanese car enthusiast spirit. I wish I had the chance to drive around in those days. Its funny to think about what the future holds for us.

BTW: My favorite hip-hop jams were from 89-94. Thats my favorite period for hip-hop. The "New Jack" era to the "G-funk era". But also the old break beat stuff from the mid 80's. I hate all the hip-hop jams out right now. Its J-POP for me now. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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SR20Fastback · 08-11-2002, 05:25 AM

I feel ya about the music man.. there was some good shit back then (DMC, 2pac, etc) as for ricers...fuck em. Im not them, and they're not me. I ignore the civics and shit that wanna race. If they wanna race, they can pay to fix my car. Until then, they can all fuck themselves. my other thoughts need not come out now, for I am tired. Well time for bed peace.

sil80 · 08-11-2002, 05:40 AM

I have been into cars for about 2 weeks( <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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If you dont like what other people drive then why pay any attention? If some jackass wants to put 20 grand into a civic to bling bling it out then so be it..... Just if he roles up next to me on the twistys I will slide around his ass..... probably slow back down and do it again.
The thing is that I have seen this post way to much as of lately... just drop it, obviously you like hondas or you wouldnt care to bitch about them(Not picking on just you AZN). I mean shit I dont hear people bitching about pimped out SUV's or low riders... Those people are not in our scene... i dont classify riced out civic as being in my scene either so I dont care.
I will appreciate a well modified honda... toyota, nissan, subaru, etc..... cause those are the cats in our scene.
Another thing... its just not hondas... how many people on this board have bought 240s in the last 4 months and the first thing they upgrade is the engine..."SR20DET here I come" bla
The only engine mod I have on my car is  CAI and thats just cause I got it off another 240 in a junkyard for 20 bucks. I am not saying im not going to put an sr in its just not tell im done with the suspension... which as of next month will be almost complete with the addition of Zeal B6's.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

SprungScorp · 08-11-2002, 12:54 PM

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SR20Fastback · 08-11-2002, 04:22 PM

haha no prob jojo, use away <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> I think there are some very nice beautiful intelligent import models, and there are some dumb slop azz ho's that can lick a herpes infested nutsac. All depends on the girl, I've met some really nice import models, and I've met quite a few bitchs that model imports. Im indifferent I guess..

nrcooled · 08-11-2002, 05:31 PM

To say just ignore it may come easy to some that don't live in the area that I do.  Civickilla can back me on this one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>   It's horrible.  Riced out civics and 'tegs as far as the eye can see. The fart cans and huge wings and I won't even limit it to the imports the v6 mustangs are even worse w/ rebadging to GT-R and the cobra emblems.  
Just to see the misguided youth is depressing...now ask me if I would rather see a 16yr old pushing a riced out civic or a 400hp monster...please God let me see him in a civic cause he's too stupid to know how to drive a 400hp car.  But the foundation is completely of base.  I want to meet and greet true car enthusiasts (mostly older guys in domestics) that know what enjoying cars is all about not someone quoting the last issue of SuperStreet. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>
I guess that is why I hang on this board because the enthusiasm about cars remains based in the engine bay and not the "unique just like everyone else" euro tails.
But back to my point, the ignorance that surrounds me everyday in my area is absurd and completely depressing kids hanging out at McDonald's seeing whose HIDs are brighter

All I can say is take one under your wing and guide him/her in the right direction.  That is what I have done w/ a co-worker.  Do something to help the scene and don't just complain about it  
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Titan · 08-11-2002, 07:04 PM

I totally agree with you except for one aspect - one handed driving.

Now if the car is automatic, I can see your point, but if the tranny is manual then you really don't have much choice. I mean with my legs operating the clutch and gas, and both arms on the wheel, I would only have one extendable appendage left to reach the shifter. Even though it may be long enough to do so <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> , I doubt it would possess the dexterity to change gears, cuz otherwise I would be sitting in California within a room with flood lighting and fur lining, while having 70's funk playing in the background. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

SprungScorp · 08-11-2002, 07:38 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Titan @ Aug. 11 2002,6:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I totally agree with you except for one aspect - one handed driving.

Now if the car is automatic, I can see your point, but if the tranny is manual then you really don't have much choice. I mean with my legs operating the clutch and gas, and both arms on the wheel, I would only have one extendable appendage left to reach the shifter. Even though it may be long enough to do so <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> , I doubt it would possess the dexterity to change gears, cuz otherwise I would be sitting in California within a room with flood lighting and fur lining, while having 70's funk playing in the background. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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NervGS · 08-11-2002, 07:44 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SprungScorp @ Aug. 11 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 11 2002,03:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Import models suck.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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BWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

OMG...  Looks like someone was offended...  BWWAAAHAHAHAH...

I like my opinions, I hope you like your own too.

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-glenn

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SprungScorp · 08-11-2002, 07:50 PM

I don't see how Import Models can "suck". Explain yourself, before I stab you. (And don't say suck dick <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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tnord · 08-11-2002, 07:51 PM

:::enable dead horse beating mode:::

whateverjames · 08-11-2002, 07:54 PM

i'd say unless you own an older hot rod, camaro or mustang, the whole scene sucks. yes. me and my friend with the Z do not hang out with any racing crowds. no Z club, no st louis street racing meets, and i don't hang out with the s10/blazer xtreme club. we just enjoy our vehicles and have fun. i just think this generation of people are a bunch of assholes. pretty much 25 and under. people have forgotten the fun aspect of it, and are concentrating too much on the competition and ego part of it. i think the 240SX crowd have the least amount of assholes and do not concentrate on competition as much.

Drifting Ricer · 08-11-2002, 08:55 PM

What wrong with being a little competitive?!

Now there is one import crowd that deserved allot of credit. Is the import crowd at the auto x's. I don't think they can be called a crowed. There usually older 20+. They mod there cars for performance. Generally really freaking competitive. Respectful of each others cars.

They do have a lot stickers but that's okay 'cause the those are thier sponsors and class numbers.

matic 240sx · 08-11-2002, 11:00 PM

do what my crew did, we dont meet on the beach anymore... we meet in the old business part of town.. behind building where people can't see us. We race out in the middle of no where... we never invite people we slowly let people in.. people we become friends with... dont ever talk to ricers... just wait.. when the media gets done with it no one will do it anymore.. cept for the ones who are real to it.

edit:  i should note.. me any my brother own a shop.. so its easy for us to meet the people that are really into the scene..  when we started meets out at the beach.. it was the best... but now you drive by and see stock cars, mustangs, bikes, gay imports, kias, daewhats, rice crap, airbagged trucks... people took it as a place to hang out...  i feel the same way as you guys do.. ive been into cars since i was little... i like clean body kits and nice wings, mad power gets my dick hard.. but now its just out of hand.. i went by the beach one time and saw around 6 or 7 cars with graphics....  i dont dislike graphics but... stock sunfires with hubcaps do not need MI graphics on them.. 2002 v6 mustangs with cobra rims does not need the same graphics as the skyline gt-r33 from the fast and the furious...  this one kid has some 4 door kia with a NOS bottle.. just the bottle.. he said its for looks, last time i stopped this kid asked if we could get him a fake bov and a fake fmic...  really sad....

im into that whole show and go thing.. but people are just doing whatever think think gets them the most attention..  i do it all for me.. and only me.. everyone could tell me that something looks ugly and it wont matter..  these kids just want loud... the image if u will..  its sad but, im sure it will pass..  i use to be into net and hacking really bad and the same thing happened when "hackers" movie came out..  people would hunt us down on irc and search our webpages and e-mail us wanting to know how to crash 1507 computers...  i was like "wtf?"  they see it in a movie..  think its cool and jump on.. then they get bored because they are not doing it right or at all and give up...

whateverjames · 08-11-2002, 11:01 PM

nothing's wrong with being a little competitive. that's what's great about the 240SX community. just a little. either that or we are polite about it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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HippoSleek · 08-12-2002, 07:15 AM

Enthusiasm is what we make it.  My auto "scene" involves nothing but respect and fun - even with total strangers.

The "import scene" is just another bunch of white/yellow/brown trash.  Ghetto fabulous is what it's all about.  You don't have to live there to be ghetto.  If you ever did something to your car because it would impress someone else, you just might be a member.

AKADriver · 08-12-2002, 08:09 AM

It all reminds me of '50s B-movies...  Where the "bad kids" always drove a hot rod or a bike.  People in our parents' and grandparents' generation fought like hell to clean up the image of "car guys" in the '60s, to get rid of the small time thug stereotype... and now we have kids doing everything they can to reinforce it.

But, whatreyougonnado.  In 5 years they'll be over it, and the true enthusiasts will still be driving.

uuninja · 08-12-2002, 12:06 PM

The import scene could be dead for all I care. I don't hang out at Mickie D's bumping Nelly. I don't read stupid street. I don't jock alteeza's. I don't own a visor. I don't try and race everything with doors and 4 or more tires. I don't plan my year around the NOPI or HIN show schedule.That is not my click.

I am a sports car enthusiast. I like driving, owning, building, admiring sports cars. Aside from the number of tires, one has nothing to do with the other.

240SxTYLE · 08-14-2002, 12:12 AM

the ppl who really piss me off are the kids who are sponsored by mommy and daddy, and the kids who dont know jack about cars... or worse a combination of both. im not saying i know much but i know atleast what makes my car run and how it runs.

most of the kids in the "scene" dont know how to change thier own oil, light bulbs or whatever and it just happens to be that those kids are the ones that own the civics and integras (well thats how it is in orlando).  where as the ones that know something or are learning soemthing about cars tend to stay away from all the bling bling meet ups at wal mart and the illegal street races.

oh yeah... no one mentioned how much they hate nozzle lights... you konw beat me signals... I CANT $#@$@# STAND THOSE THINGS  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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KiDyNomiTe · 08-14-2002, 10:49 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SprungScorp @ Aug. 11 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 11 2002,03:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Import models suck.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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LOL he juss says that cuz he has no chance with any of em...wait I have no chance with them either <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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IMPORT MODELS SUCK j/p

They sure are hot, but it seems all the new ones are getting uglier, I prefer the older ones, by older i mean the ones that have been in the import scene for longer like Natasha Yi, and Tila, and Cherie Roberts. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

SprungScorp · 08-14-2002, 01:21 PM

You know whose ugly? Rachel Piazza (or whatever the fuck her name is) look her up, and when you see her picture, think of the noise a dog makes when he tilts his head and looks confused...or the noise Scooby Doo makes.

"UURH??"

So here's a picture of my favorite "car"

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SR20Fastback · 08-14-2002, 01:46 PM

KiDynomite- how can you think tila cheri and natasha are ugly?? Cheri was the reason, well she was the reason for somethin or other I cant remember, but shes really hot (to me) and I sat on her lap and my friend will never live it down... I think tila is gorgous! I went bowling last night and there was a girl there that sorta resempled her. I wanted to talk to her but she had some big ass asian boyfriends there. Didnt want to get my azz rocked.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

aqwkmf · 08-14-2002, 02:12 PM

personally i dont see anything wrong with making a import car look good or making it fast. i like body kits.

heres what i dont like. i hate people that get a car and dont know shit about it. dont pretend to be a enthuasit if ur not. go up to some rice body and ask him what body kit he has and he'll know... ask him what engine he has and he'll say "huh"?

like a kid i know just got a talon with mods on it already. "nice car whats it got"..."i dunno i bought it casue its fast"...."now what the fuck" why?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>???

dont get me wrong im no ricer. my goal is to make my car quicker than a stock TTZ and also make it look good to.

and about the automatic cars. automatic is gay. real sports cars use manual. a automatic civic...gay....a automatic FD, Z32, or Supra....who cares.....most people cant afford it anyway and its still a supercar.

just my $0.02

HippoSleek · 08-14-2002, 03:04 PM

Interesting...

Does it really matter that much whether someone knows why the car goes fast if it does?  Jeez, most of the riceboys I meet know their parts like their birthday - especially the pimpy JDM stuff.

On the other hand, rice-queens are a fine symbol of everything that's wrong with most people in the "import scene."  Bling bling - "Look at my mutt-face and plastic tits!"  Ugly girls trying too hard.  Just like the ugly, cheap cars trying too hard.  I see girls plenty hotter than that walking down the street every day and cars that are way more attractive and sporty.  But neither the rice-queens nor the guys in $15K "sports" cars accept just what they are.

matic 240sx · 08-14-2002, 03:19 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ Aug. 13 2002,4:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">personally i dont see anything wrong with making a import car look good or making it fast. i like body kits.

heres what i dont like. i hate people that get a car and dont know shit about it. dont pretend to be a enthuasit if ur not. go up to some rice body and ask him what body kit he has and he'll know... ask him what engine he has and he'll say "huh"?

like a kid i know just got a talon with mods on it already. "nice car whats it got"..."i dunno i bought it casue its fast"...."now what the fuck" why?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>???

dont get me wrong im no ricer. my goal is to make my car quicker than a stock TTZ and also make it look good to.

and about the automatic cars. automatic is gay. real sports cars use manual. a automatic civic...gay....a automatic FD, Z32, or Supra....who cares.....most people cant afford it anyway and its still a supercar.

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see, you should just stfu... you do not know anything about cars yourself.. you and your loser idea that a "real sports car" uses a manual..  well, i have about 3 friends with automatics that will kill any car on this board...  my brothers automatic maxima takes out 5.0s like nothing..   i dont care weather someone likes something or not but i just thought that your comment was really stupid "automatics are gay" whats with that word?  you think a transmission has a sexual desire for men?  I wanted to switch to manual.. but I have older friends who own 12, 11, 10 (auto), and 9 second cars and they have all told me if I want my car to run 10s keep it an automatic because its better for consistant times.  The fastest import in america with metal body, auto, and 4cyl is a 240sx.  But whatever, ive been racing for years and will do everything I can to put my car at a 10 or less with my auto.  I really dont give a sh*t what some kids say...  There is guys on the Maxima forum running 12s and 11s with autos and stock body with full interior.   Ive seen a 4th gen auto pull a 12 myself.  

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08-10-2002, 10:27 PM	#2
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	most mullet boys say mustangs are crap too <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . I don't hate domestics and I don't love them, just another car on the road. Well the import scene is getting way out of hand, we are slowly getting away from the basics, and now going into havign certain things for bragging rights. More and more people are fixing up autos, and more and more people just get turbos to say they have a turbo or to hear the BOV. As long as I never turn into one of them I wil be happy. I figure it's time to just start ignoring them, and going on with your life. I have seen so many debates on here about people talking to someone who think this is better than that, and bla bla bla. Oh well... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

08-11-2002, 01:53 AM	#4
SprungScorp Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My thought on the Import Scene: Import Models rock and the cars just happen to be there. Example: Import Revolution. You always hear about the IRev GIRLS, never the IRev Cars. But hell, Im not complaining. __________________ Why don't you just call it 'Operation Ass Cream'? My Page

08-11-2002, 05:04 AM	#6
kanekz Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 802 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The import scene has been down hill since around 1997. Thats when all the ricy kits started to come out and all the imatation products. Around 99', it hit new lows with mad different combinations of lighting products. Around 00' the IS300 (Altezza) came to the states, which led to the production of Altezza taillights. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> A very sad moment in time. Im Nisei (2nd Gen Japanese) and all my relatives live in Japan. I have been there dozens of times. Over time, I have got to see how the real spirit of building/tuning your own car is.  It is so different over there.  Most drivers have respect for other drivers on the road and are so much more courteous. I'm 20 yrs old now. I started getting into cars around 12-13. I always wanted to drive though ever since 8. My older brother was a "Rotary" type guy. All he ever drove/crashed (just 1) were FC's. This was back around 1994 and the "import scene" (which it wasnt called back then) was really TRUE to the Japanese car enthusiast spirit. I wish I had the chance to drive around in those days. Its funny to think about what the future holds for us. BTW: My favorite hip-hop jams were from 89-94. Thats my favorite period for hip-hop. The "New Jack" era to the "G-funk era". But also the old break beat stuff from the mid 80's. I hate all the hip-hop jams out right now. Its J-POP for me now. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Blitz!!

08-11-2002, 05:25 AM	#7
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 39 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I feel ya about the music man.. there was some good shit back then (DMC, 2pac, etc) as for ricers...fuck em. Im not them, and they're not me. I ignore the civics and shit that wanna race. If they wanna race, they can pay to fix my car. Until then, they can all fuck themselves. my other thoughts need not come out now, for I am tired. Well time for bed peace. __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

08-11-2002, 05:40 AM	#8
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have been into cars for about 2 weeks( <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> ) ... OOOOO SHUT THE hell UP! If you dont like what other people drive then why pay any attention? If some jackass wants to put 20 grand into a civic to bling bling it out then so be it..... Just if he roles up next to me on the twistys I will slide around his ass..... probably slow back down and do it again. The thing is that I have seen this post way to much as of lately... just drop it, obviously you like hondas or you wouldnt care to bitch about them(Not picking on just you AZN). I mean shit I dont hear people bitching about pimped out SUV's or low riders... Those people are not in our scene... i dont classify riced out civic as being in my scene either so I dont care. I will appreciate a well modified honda... toyota, nissan, subaru, etc..... cause those are the cats in our scene. Another thing... its just not hondas... how many people on this board have bought 240s in the last 4 months and the first thing they upgrade is the engine..."SR20DET here I come" bla The only engine mod I have on my car is  CAI and thats just cause I got it off another 240 in a junkyard for 20 bucks. I am not saying im not going to put an sr in its just not tell im done with the suspension... which as of next month will be almost complete with the addition of Zeal B6's.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-10-2002, 10:08 PM	#1
AZN GTR Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have been into cars since I was about 12.  Maybe it's because I lived in Hong Kong for 12 years, I always like Japanese cars, and when I first got here, I always wish there were more people hooking Japanese cars.  However, recently, it's been pissing me off that people are modifying their imports, because now, it's not really about speed and performance, it's about huge body kits, altezzas, oversized heavy rims, loud exhaust, putting other cars' tail and head lights in another car, alumimum wings (esp. on FF), loud stereo systems, driving with one hand and sitting int he middle of the car and putting the seat all the way back.  People think all the stuff above are cool now.  And the whole Honda pride crap.  When I was in middle school, and I talked to friends about what car they want, most American kids would say a mustang, now you ask them, it's probably a freaking civic so they can rice it.  I don't like American cars, but I know for sure that mustangs are better than civics a lot because at least they are sports cars, not economy cars.   After coming back from Hong Kong, it pisses me off even more, because most people over there do it right, (there are still some ricers, mostly civics that aren't type r)  and then I come back, and I see people driving with one hand sitting in the middle of the car with loud music driving around and racing people, it seriously makes me angry. I remember my dad told me he had an alfa romeo when he was young and used to race it and tell me all these stories and stuff, now , can you imagine how sad it will be in ten or twenty years when these teenagers become fathers and telling their kids that they drove a civic with a big body kit, 20 inch rims, and a alumimum wing?  God, this is terrible.  I just had to express my feelings.

08-11-2002, 01:47 AM	#3
MasterOFDrift Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WA Posts: 604 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes Azn GTR I totally know how you feel. THe ricer bug has infected the majority of highschool teens and the Fast and the Furious obviously helped it spread. The sadest thing about this whole situation is that not only do these people just drive around racing everyone they all brag about how fast their stock economy cars are. I was talking to one of my friends and yes it is a girl about what car she is getting she just got her license back then and she said a prelude and it is already really fast and modded out. I believed her whole story about the previous owner making lotsa a mods to that car. Engine work, 2000 dollar rims etc. Then when I see the car and check out the engine I became very disappointed and realized how rice has infected all who are ignorant. She didn't even have a v-tec engine or even a intake her rims where ass ugly and heavy also. (sorry for babling ricers bother me)

08-11-2002, 04:42 AM	#5
NervGS Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California. Age: 42 Posts: 500 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The "Import Scene" sucks ass.  Any kind of "scene" sucks.  I personally HATE show cars, people bragging about their cars, etc, thats like 99% of this whole "import scene." I tend to stick to my own, no scene, no whatever.  Just my own thoughts, and what I like. I had been into cars since I was 13 years old, starting with an FD, then just studying more and more.  It also helps that mom used to be into cars when she was my age 31 years ago, and had stories to tell when I was younger.  What does she think of all this here?  SHIT.  She likes a few of my friend's cars that are clean, but majority she see's on California streets...  What does she think about it in Japan?  She doesn't really care for it, but its still more or less how it was when she was drving and stuff when she was living there. Magazines like super street make it worse, exploting "trends" done in Japan when they've been doing it for like 30 years. Import models suck. My 02. cents. -glenn

08-11-2002, 12:54 PM	#9
SprungScorp Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 11 2002,03:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Import models suck.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> To take a page out of SR20Fastback's playbook (can I borrow this?)... ....................../´¯/).................. ....................,/¯../ ................... .................../..../ ..................... ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ............. ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........... ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'....) ........... .........\.................'...../ ............ ..........'\...\.......... _.·´ .............. ............\..............( .................. ..............\.............\.................. ............................................... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> but my real emotion is <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> __________________ Why don't you just call it 'Operation Ass Cream'? My Page

08-11-2002, 04:22 PM	#10
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 39 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	haha no prob jojo, use away <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I think there are some very nice beautiful intelligent import models, and there are some dumb slop azz ho's that can lick a herpes infested nutsac. All depends on the girl, I've met some really nice import models, and I've met quite a few bitchs that model imports. Im indifferent I guess.. __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

08-11-2002, 05:31 PM	#11
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 45 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	To say just ignore it may come easy to some that don't live in the area that I do.  Civickilla can back me on this one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>   It's horrible.  Riced out civics and 'tegs as far as the eye can see. The fart cans and huge wings and I won't even limit it to the imports the v6 mustangs are even worse w/ rebadging to GT-R and the cobra emblems.   Just to see the misguided youth is depressing...now ask me if I would rather see a 16yr old pushing a riced out civic or a 400hp monster...please God let me see him in a civic cause he's too stupid to know how to drive a 400hp car.  But the foundation is completely of base.  I want to meet and greet true car enthusiasts (mostly older guys in domestics) that know what enjoying cars is all about not someone quoting the last issue of SuperStreet. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> I guess that is why I hang on this board because the enthusiasm about cars remains based in the engine bay and not the "unique just like everyone else" euro tails. But back to my point, the ignorance that surrounds me everyday in my area is absurd and completely depressing kids hanging out at McDonald's seeing whose HIDs are brighter All I can say is take one under your wing and guide him/her in the right direction.  That is what I have done w/ a co-worker.  Do something to help the scene and don't just complain about it   This has been a Public Service Anoucement brought to you by your friends at SARF (Save A Ricer Foundation) __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

08-11-2002, 07:04 PM	#12
Titan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 421 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I totally agree with you except for one aspect - one handed driving. Now if the car is automatic, I can see your point, but if the tranny is manual then you really don't have much choice. I mean with my legs operating the clutch and gas, and both arms on the wheel, I would only have one extendable appendage left to reach the shifter. Even though it may be long enough to do so <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> , I doubt it would possess the dexterity to change gears, cuz otherwise I would be sitting in California within a room with flood lighting and fur lining, while having 70's funk playing in the background. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> __________________ Sleep Doesn't Drink Beer

08-11-2002, 07:38 PM	#13
SprungScorp Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Titan @ Aug. 11 2002,6:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I totally agree with you except for one aspect - one handed driving. Now if the car is automatic, I can see your point, but if the tranny is manual then you really don't have much choice. I mean with my legs operating the clutch and gas, and both arms on the wheel, I would only have one extendable appendage left to reach the shifter. Even though it may be long enough to do so <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> , I doubt it would possess the dexterity to change gears, cuz otherwise I would be sitting in California within a room with flood lighting and fur lining, while having 70's funk playing in the background. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> LMAO <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Why don't you just call it 'Operation Ass Cream'? My Page

08-11-2002, 07:44 PM	#14
NervGS Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California. Age: 42 Posts: 500 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SprungScorp @ Aug. 11 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 11 2002,03:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Import models suck.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> To take a page out of SR20Fastback's playbook (can I borrow this?)... ....................../´¯/).................. ....................,/¯../ ................... .................../..../ ..................... ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ............. ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........... ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'....) ........... .........\.................'...../ ............ ..........'\...\.......... _.·´ .............. ............\..............( .................. ..............\.............\.................. ............................................... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> but my real emotion is <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> BWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! OMG...  Looks like someone was offended...  BWWAAAHAHAHAH... I like my opinions, I hope you like your own too. My real emotion is <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> -glenn <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

08-11-2002, 07:50 PM	#15
SprungScorp Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't see how Import Models can "suck". Explain yourself, before I stab you. (And don't say suck dick <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='issed:'> ) __________________ Why don't you just call it 'Operation Ass Cream'? My Page

08-11-2002, 07:51 PM	#16
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	:::enable dead horse beating mode:::

08-11-2002, 07:54 PM	#17
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'd say unless you own an older hot rod, camaro or mustang, the whole scene sucks. yes. me and my friend with the Z do not hang out with any racing crowds. no Z club, no st louis street racing meets, and i don't hang out with the s10/blazer xtreme club. we just enjoy our vehicles and have fun. i just think this generation of people are a bunch of assholes. pretty much 25 and under. people have forgotten the fun aspect of it, and are concentrating too much on the competition and ego part of it. i think the 240SX crowd have the least amount of assholes and do not concentrate on competition as much. __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

08-11-2002, 08:55 PM	#18
Drifting Ricer Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Boston MA Posts: 608 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What wrong with being a little competitive?! Now there is one import crowd that deserved allot of credit. Is the import crowd at the auto x's. I don't think they can be called a crowed. There usually older 20+. They mod there cars for performance. Generally really freaking competitive. Respectful of each others cars. They do have a lot stickers but that's okay 'cause the those are thier sponsors and class numbers. __________________ NER Solo 2 18 SM

08-11-2002, 11:00 PM	#19
matic 240sx Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: las vegas Age: 41 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: matic 240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	do what my crew did, we dont meet on the beach anymore... we meet in the old business part of town.. behind building where people can't see us. We race out in the middle of no where... we never invite people we slowly let people in.. people we become friends with... dont ever talk to ricers... just wait.. when the media gets done with it no one will do it anymore.. cept for the ones who are real to it. edit:  i should note.. me any my brother own a shop.. so its easy for us to meet the people that are really into the scene..  when we started meets out at the beach.. it was the best... but now you drive by and see stock cars, mustangs, bikes, gay imports, kias, daewhats, rice crap, airbagged trucks... people took it as a place to hang out...  i feel the same way as you guys do.. ive been into cars since i was little... i like clean body kits and nice wings, mad power gets my dick hard.. but now its just out of hand.. i went by the beach one time and saw around 6 or 7 cars with graphics....  i dont dislike graphics but... stock sunfires with hubcaps do not need MI graphics on them.. 2002 v6 mustangs with cobra rims does not need the same graphics as the skyline gt-r33 from the fast and the furious...  this one kid has some 4 door kia with a NOS bottle.. just the bottle.. he said its for looks, last time i stopped this kid asked if we could get him a fake bov and a fake fmic...  really sad.... im into that whole show and go thing.. but people are just doing whatever think think gets them the most attention..  i do it all for me.. and only me.. everyone could tell me that something looks ugly and it wont matter..  these kids just want loud... the image if u will..  its sad but, im sure it will pass..  i use to be into net and hacking really bad and the same thing happened when "hackers" movie came out..  people would hunt us down on irc and search our webpages and e-mail us wanting to know how to crash 1507 computers...  i was like "wtf?"  they see it in a movie..  think its cool and jump on.. then they get bored because they are not doing it right or at all and give up... __________________ · m á † í ç · after9racing.com

08-11-2002, 11:01 PM	#20
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nothing's wrong with being a little competitive. that's what's great about the 240SX community. just a little. either that or we are polite about it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

08-12-2002, 07:15 AM	#21
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Enthusiasm is what we make it.  My auto "scene" involves nothing but respect and fun - even with total strangers. The "import scene" is just another bunch of white/yellow/brown trash.  Ghetto fabulous is what it's all about.  You don't have to live there to be ghetto.  If you ever did something to your car because it would impress someone else, you just might be a member.

08-12-2002, 08:09 AM	#22
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 42 Posts: 3,475 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It all reminds me of '50s B-movies...  Where the "bad kids" always drove a hot rod or a bike.  People in our parents' and grandparents' generation fought like hell to clean up the image of "car guys" in the '60s, to get rid of the small time thug stereotype... and now we have kids doing everything they can to reinforce it. But, whatreyougonnado.  In 5 years they'll be over it, and the true enthusiasts will still be driving.

08-12-2002, 12:06 PM	#23
uuninja Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reston, VA Age: 46 Posts: 812 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The import scene could be dead for all I care. I don't hang out at Mickie D's bumping Nelly. I don't read stupid street. I don't jock alteeza's. I don't own a visor. I don't try and race everything with doors and 4 or more tires. I don't plan my year around the NOPI or HIN show schedule.That is not my click. I am a sports car enthusiast. I like driving, owning, building, admiring sports cars. Aside from the number of tires, one has nothing to do with the other. __________________ Lurker Supreme! www.midatlantic240sx.com 91 Coupe 97 KA24DE+T SOLD

08-14-2002, 12:12 AM	#24
240SxTYLE Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: orlando Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the ppl who really piss me off are the kids who are sponsored by mommy and daddy, and the kids who dont know jack about cars... or worse a combination of both. im not saying i know much but i know atleast what makes my car run and how it runs. most of the kids in the "scene" dont know how to change thier own oil, light bulbs or whatever and it just happens to be that those kids are the ones that own the civics and integras (well thats how it is in orlando).  where as the ones that know something or are learning soemthing about cars tend to stay away from all the bling bling meet ups at wal mart and the illegal street races. oh yeah... no one mentioned how much they hate nozzle lights... you konw beat me signals... I CANT $#@$@# STAND THOSE THINGS  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='issed:'> __________________ Second love First Love (my girl, not the honda)

08-14-2002, 10:49 AM	#25
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SprungScorp @ Aug. 11 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 11 2002,03:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Import models suck.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> To take a page out of SR20Fastback's playbook (can I borrow this?)... ....................../´¯/).................. ....................,/¯../ ................... .................../..../ ..................... ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ............. ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........... ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'....) ........... .........\.................'...../ ............ ..........'\...\.......... _.·´ .............. ............\..............( .................. ..............\.............\.................. ............................................... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> but my real emotion is <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> LOL he juss says that cuz he has no chance with any of em...wait I have no chance with them either <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> IMPORT MODELS SUCK j/p They sure are hot, but it seems all the new ones are getting uglier, I prefer the older ones, by older i mean the ones that have been in the import scene for longer like Natasha Yi, and Tila, and Cherie Roberts. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

08-14-2002, 01:21 PM	#26
SprungScorp Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You know whose ugly? Rachel Piazza (or whatever the fuck her name is) look her up, and when you see her picture, think of the noise a dog makes when he tilts his head and looks confused...or the noise Scooby Doo makes. "UURH??" So here's a picture of my favorite "car" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> (NOT Rachel Piazza BTW) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Why don't you just call it 'Operation Ass Cream'? My Page

08-14-2002, 01:46 PM	#27
SR20Fastback Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Bay Age: 39 Posts: 1,637 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	KiDynomite- how can you think tila cheri and natasha are ugly?? Cheri was the reason, well she was the reason for somethin or other I cant remember, but shes really hot (to me) and I sat on her lap and my friend will never live it down... I think tila is gorgous! I went bowling last night and there was a girl there that sorta resempled her. I wanted to talk to her but she had some big ass asian boyfriends there. Didnt want to get my azz rocked.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> __________________ Fodive STILL blows goats, I have proof.

08-14-2002, 02:12 PM	#28
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	personally i dont see anything wrong with making a import car look good or making it fast. i like body kits. heres what i dont like. i hate people that get a car and dont know shit about it. dont pretend to be a enthuasit if ur not. go up to some rice body and ask him what body kit he has and he'll know... ask him what engine he has and he'll say "huh"? like a kid i know just got a talon with mods on it already. "nice car whats it got"..."i dunno i bought it casue its fast"...."now what the fuck" why?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??? dont get me wrong im no ricer. my goal is to make my car quicker than a stock TTZ and also make it look good to. and about the automatic cars. automatic is gay. real sports cars use manual. a automatic civic...gay....a automatic FD, Z32, or Supra....who cares.....most people cant afford it anyway and its still a supercar. just my $0.02

08-14-2002, 03:04 PM	#29
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interesting... Does it really matter that much whether someone knows why the car goes fast if it does?  Jeez, most of the riceboys I meet know their parts like their birthday - especially the pimpy JDM stuff. On the other hand, rice-queens are a fine symbol of everything that's wrong with most people in the "import scene."  Bling bling - "Look at my mutt-face and plastic tits!"  Ugly girls trying too hard.  Just like the ugly, cheap cars trying too hard.  I see girls plenty hotter than that walking down the street every day and cars that are way more attractive and sporty.  But neither the rice-queens nor the guys in $15K "sports" cars accept just what they are.

08-14-2002, 03:19 PM	#30
matic 240sx Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: las vegas Age: 41 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: matic 240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ Aug. 13 2002,4:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">personally i dont see anything wrong with making a import car look good or making it fast. i like body kits. heres what i dont like. i hate people that get a car and dont know shit about it. dont pretend to be a enthuasit if ur not. go up to some rice body and ask him what body kit he has and he'll know... ask him what engine he has and he'll say "huh"? like a kid i know just got a talon with mods on it already. "nice car whats it got"..."i dunno i bought it casue its fast"...."now what the fuck" why?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??? dont get me wrong im no ricer. my goal is to make my car quicker than a stock TTZ and also make it look good to. and about the automatic cars. automatic is gay. real sports cars use manual. a automatic civic...gay....a automatic FD, Z32, or Supra....who cares.....most people cant afford it anyway and its still a supercar. just my $0.02</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> see, you should just stfu... you do not know anything about cars yourself.. you and your loser idea that a "real sports car" uses a manual..  well, i have about 3 friends with automatics that will kill any car on this board...  my brothers automatic maxima takes out 5.0s like nothing..   i dont care weather someone likes something or not but i just thought that your comment was really stupid "automatics are gay" whats with that word?  you think a transmission has a sexual desire for men?  I wanted to switch to manual.. but I have older friends who own 12, 11, 10 (auto), and 9 second cars and they have all told me if I want my car to run 10s keep it an automatic because its better for consistant times.  The fastest import in america with metal body, auto, and 4cyl is a 240sx.  But whatever, ive been racing for years and will do everything I can to put my car at a 10 or less with my auto.  I really dont give a sh*t what some kids say...  There is guys on the Maxima forum running 12s and 11s with autos and stock body with full interior.   Ive seen a 4th gen auto pull a 12 myself.   just my .02 cents  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ · m á † í ç · after9racing.com

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