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Old 10-28-2002, 10:27 PM   #1
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just now found this site. &nbsp;very nice!!! &nbsp;i been looking for a site devoted to S13 &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

i actually own a FF now (honduhh) and have had enough of NA power. &nbsp;time for some b0000000st &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

i just recently looked into getting a 180 or 240, hopefully i'll find one soon!!! &nbsp;but i'm in no rush, just gonna take my time and find one i like, and make it a spring/summer project!! &nbsp;in the meantime i hope to learn alot more about the intricacies of owning a RWD, being i never even driven one before!! &nbsp;i bet i will be in for quite a surprise &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

well that's all for now. &nbsp;btw, is there any other silvia specific forums? &nbsp;i noticed that this seems to be only 240s......
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besides zilvia i guess you could check out nissaninfiniticlub.net or freshalloy
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thanks for the reply!! &nbsp;freshalloy seems to have alot of traffic over there, just registered there also &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
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240sx.org, which yea i guess that's nico forums, is where i have always posted until yesterday. &nbsp;i can't get it to work lately, so i just decided to post here, since this site is up an running now.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (1fasts13 @ Oct. 28 2002,9:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just now found this site. very nice!!! i been looking for a site devoted to S13 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

i just recently looked into getting a 180 or 240, hopefully i'll find one soon!!!

well that's all for now. btw, is there any other silvia specific forums? i noticed that this seems to be only 240s......</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Where are you geographically?
This is mainly a 240 forum because the vast majority of the members are in N.America, where we were not fortunate enough to get the 180/200/s13 silvia/etc. &nbsp;No boost for us <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;(from the factory anyways <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> heehee )
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Old 10-29-2002, 11:56 AM   #9
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haha i'm such a n00b &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>

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here's a REALLY old pic of my honduhh which i have track whored up until this year cuz the rebuild gave me lots of problems &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>





that was from last year at Gingerman in MI. &nbsp;closest decent track from chicago which is where i am from.

hopefully i'll be able to do somewhat the same with the S13, although i will admit the first reason luring me to these is so i can have b0000st &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>
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if you're that interested in "b0000sting", i'm actually pretty sure it's easier and cheaper to turbocharge your civic. a 240sx does not come stock with a turbo, and afaik, there are only 2 or 3 (4?) kits out there for our engine... each running in the 3,500+ price range. none of these kits are 'legal' either, though greddy has been 'near completion' on a legal kit for a few years now... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
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Good to have you aboard.. &nbsp;(I love seeing converts ) &nbsp;Your gonna love the S13 on the track.. you may however want to stay with the KA for at least your first few events though with the car, to get a feel for how the car handles without boost. &nbsp;RWD is Much different feeling than FWD (even though the line is almost identical.) &nbsp;But Boost is fun either way. &nbsp;

What are you thinking right now in the boost category? &nbsp;SR/CA/KA?? &nbsp; or do you know? &nbsp;I tend to think the SR makes a little better track motor because it is a good bit higher strung than the KA.. &nbsp;those extra revs are nice to have.
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well to answer about boosting a civic, first off i have always been a proponent of if the motor came from the factory NA or turbo, it should stay that way. &nbsp;yes you can make lots of power turbocharging a civic, but its just my opinion that if its made NA it should stay that way. &nbsp;and i'm not about to get into all the complications with running boost on FF either!!

my civic has been fairly well setup as NA track car so i'm gonna keep it that way. &nbsp;i wasnt necessarily looking to do a 240, i was also looking into possibilites of 180 also, as that would help in the cost factor. &nbsp;but of course 240 is preferable &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

yes b000st is an addicition....and i miss it!! &nbsp;3 years of NA and i am ready to hear that snail winding up &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> &nbsp;definitely go SR route. &nbsp;i might get some flames on this one, but i was originally going for this to get it fast straight line. &nbsp;not that i dont want to try the drifting thing, yes its cool and fun and all but on an everyday scale that is just not that realistic. &nbsp;so above all else, i want the car fast first. &nbsp;then later i'll worry about setting up more towards being able to track it.

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Old 10-29-2002, 06:18 PM   #13
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<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> &nbsp;well come!.... why dont you take the flame suit off..!? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;(as long as your not nekkid under there).... you wont be flamed for not wanting to drift... the majority i think is against it.. or just dont aprove of it... at lease street drifting.. i dont blame them either... curb humping is not cool.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'> and alot of people like the straight line thing to... you can do both with your 240... umm.. i dont think you want a 180 either... why not just get a s13 and drop the sr?!? its the closest thing to getting a 180.. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (1fasts13 @ Oct. 29 2002,12:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">that was from last year at Gingerman in MI. closest decent track from chicago which is where i am from.

hopefully i'll be able to do somewhat the same with the S13, although i will admit the first reason luring me to these is so i can have b0000st <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually there's a few decent tracks near chicago. &nbsp;In addition to gingerman is Grattan, Road America, and Blackhawk farms. &nbsp;All these tracks are part of the Midwestern Council season. &nbsp;If you're serious about tracktime you should look it up, if you're not a member already.

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You just missed the last 240sx meet in chicago for the year, you would have been civic number 2 at the meet <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . Your car looks good though, as long as you didn't slap a wing on it.

Have fun with your new project, you have somewhat the same goals as me, except I decided to wait on the boost, after bieng here for a while you might change your mind.
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the way you were talking about "doing a 180", i must just ask one question, do you know they are not available in the U.S.?sure you can do the "CONVERSION" but it will never be the same. just turbo the ka, highhh revs are good. (as found in the sr) but dont forget about torque. &nbsp;

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i was just looking at your pics of your black civic and it got me wondering. &nbsp;how do you have 5 lug wheels on your civic, i have the same gen civic( 92-95) sitting in my driveway and have 4 lugs, i dont think i have ever seen a 5 lug civic(orhonda) for that matter. i know the lug pattern size differs between the civic and say, the accord, but still both have 4 lug. let me know how yu did it as im curious
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well thanks for all the comments!! &nbsp;sorry i'm not exactly overly familiar with what all US models are available, i guess that comes from watching one too many option vids!!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

ok so its only 240s here, so i guess i will try to find a decent 240 and go from there!! &nbsp;hoping i can find a 91+ for around 2k but i know thats gonna be tough, but i have time on my side &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

yes i do know about those other tracks just havent had a chance to take a whirl at them. &nbsp;hopefully after i strip the civ and strap on a custom 8pt i will be able to whore those tracks up next year!!

and thanks for not flaming about the straight line thing....i'm on honda tech and the first mention of drag racing on the ITR forum you get nothing but flames and disgust about ohh well the R is not for drag race blah blah blah.....to me its like if the guy wants to drag it, then so be it!! &nbsp;its his car after all!!

as for the 5 lug on my civic, well that's a full ITR suspension conversion. &nbsp;i run full ITR brakes/hubs/trailers/sways/etc. &nbsp;about a year ago that was still somewhat rare, now it is a dime a dozen &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>
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im a big fan of the 240, but from what it seems like you already have sunk into your civic, you should continue with it. &nbsp;turbo kits for the civic are "a dime a dozen"
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well as i said in one of my replies, i have always been a proponent of "what it comes from the factory should stay that way" as in whether it comes factory NA or turbo that's how it should be!! &nbsp;otherwise they would have made honda motors turbo too hehe....the setup is already all geared towards NA with higher compression, cams, 4.9 FD, etc etc and i like it alot so i'm not gonna change it one bit!!

with the S13, i was looking at it as a semi-cheap way to go fast straight line without the DSM hassle of breaking stuff all the time &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp; now when i say cheap i'm not saying its not gonna cost, but hell its cheaper than a supra, rx7, wrx and all those other expensive supercars!! &nbsp;i gave the STi swap into 2.5RS ALOT of thought but eventually decided that is gonna be WAY more than i want to spend &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
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oh i remembered that photo.. those were taken last january right? i was there.. remember?
here maybe this picture will freshened up your memory

that was a pic when i was about to pass you at 180++ mph


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ROFL... TYPE ARRR is teh betar tan teh CIvIK wit TYPE ARR StizzNUFF..

btw - The guys on HT are right.. &nbsp; type-r's aren't for drag.. &nbsp; but then again, 240's really aren't either.

I mean if you want a fast drag car get a M00SEtang.. or a similar american V8.. &nbsp;but if you want to, it is doable, and there are several people with drag 240's.

Check out Freshalloy.com too. &nbsp;There are a ton of guys over there with High HP SR powered cars, and several of them are built specifically for drag. &nbsp;(Cough: Greaser :cough: :cough
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Welcome to the board 1fasts13 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>. Bbandit you carzy mofo <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>
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Old 10-30-2002, 08:37 AM   #25
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I think it is funny that you are looking for a 240 for a track beast and I am looking for a civic to be a track beast. &nbsp;Anybody got one for sale? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;(Just thought I'd check) &nbsp;Anyway welcome to the boards and I have the SR and love it at the track (the civic is for the wife who has track dreams). &nbsp;Maybe I will make you my Point of Contact for info for the necessary mods for ultimate track fun in a Honduhh <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Hey, if you want to drag a 240 knock yourself out hell I've seen a 12sec Altima <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> &nbsp; So anything is possible <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
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maybe you guys are taking this out of context heeh......i wasnt really meaning FULL OUT drag car, i just wanted something with a factory turbo and it will be easily able to make fast. &nbsp;that's what attracted me to the s13. &nbsp;

haha that photochop is pretty funny!! &nbsp;i wish i had that much time on my hands &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>
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Old 10-31-2002, 06:07 AM   #27
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Welcome aboard. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Sounds like you've got your priorities straight to me. &nbsp;Many of us come from teh Honda camps and some still socialize with them (I'm on H-T, but don't leave the comp forum). &nbsp;I'm a former EG Si owner, myself.

As for the 240, hang out and you'll see there are both SR and KA turbo guys w/ damb fast cars that run both light drag and do track days. &nbsp;Both are pretty reliable until you start dreaming of more than about 300 rwhp. &nbsp;Until then, it is just a matter of choice.

Standard welcoming advice - read up and try a search before asking things you think others have wanted to know (the search on FA is/was really good).
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (1fasts13 @ Oct. 29 2002,7:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well to answer about boosting a civic, first off i have always been a proponent of if the motor came from the factory NA or turbo, it should stay that way. yes you can make lots of power turbocharging a civic, but its just my opinion that if its made NA it should stay that way. and i'm not about to get into all the complications with running boost on FF either!!

my civic has been fairly well setup as NA track car so i'm gonna keep it that way. i wasnt necessarily looking to do a 240, i was also looking into possibilites of 180 also, as that would help in the cost factor. but of course 240 is preferable <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

yes b000st is an addicition....and i miss it!! 3 years of NA and i am ready to hear that snail winding up <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> definitely go SR route. i might get some flames on this one, but i was originally going for this to get it fast straight line. not that i dont want to try the drifting thing, yes its cool and fun and all but on an everyday scale that is just not that realistic. so above all else, i want the car fast first. then later i'll worry about setting up more towards being able to track it.

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when you refer to a 180sx you do mean the 240sx Fastback...
Unless you are in Japan then it is also a 240sx. &nbsp;Neither car came with "boost" they are both N/A cars. &nbsp;Only in Japan (maybe some other countries) did the Silvia/180sx come with "boost." &nbsp;You can always do a conversion if you are up to it or turbo the N/A KA motor. &nbsp;Either way you are looking to spend alot of money. &nbsp;Learn its steering capabilities before you turbo the KA or get an SR... it is still fun driving with out them &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Good Luck with your 240 (when you get it) &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bbandit @ Oct. 30 2002,03:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oh i remembered that photo.. those were taken last january right? i was there.. remember?
here maybe this picture will freshened up your memory

that was a pic when i was about to pass you at 180++ mph


note: yea i know... i need to find something better to do but its 3.48 am and i cant sleep so forgive me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/alien.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':alien:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LMAO!!!!!

That was great &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
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yeap, i definitely need to learn all the intricizies (sp?) of RWD before i do anything serious to it!! &nbsp;as i said before all my previous cars are FF so i bet it will be quite a difference when i try to drive one of these!!

i can see it now, bringing both the civic and 240 out to a track day and tearing it up with both &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

well, we all can dream &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
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