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e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 07:05 PM

First of all, I personally believe that these seats can not be compared to the original Bride seats that are manufactured in Japan.

However, for sake of argument/discussion, I would like see what your guys' thoughts on this are.

If you have any experience with it, first hand or second hand info, please go ahead and state it.

What prompt me to create this thread, was due to this other one, that was posted on a BMW forum:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=973902

BoostedCoupe · 04-07-2008, 07:07 PM

They look decent. But i sure they will fade quick and bring soon. They are like all the other ebay brides they are decent for the price but nothing compared to the real ones. for 700 you could buy a real bride.

Jtuned_andy · 04-07-2008, 07:12 PM

I try not to buy knockoffs if I can help it. Support the industry and buy the real thing so they can continue to provide us with quality products where we don't have to question craftsmanship.

WISH ONE · 04-07-2008, 07:23 PM

have some black bride brix knockoffs for 400 if you want them... clean lol.. actually not mine but a friends. they sit kinda high on the bride brackets that he has for them, really comfy but your head is inches away from the roof of the car depending on how tall you are.

YoungGun · 04-07-2008, 07:29 PM

Wait how are they fake? on the provided link he states that the only difference is the shell is frp and not carbon or kevlar

johngriff · 04-07-2008, 07:32 PM

Ok, this is just dumb. Knock off safety equipment is by FAR THE DUMBEST THING I'VE HEARD OF.

Ok, you get brides because you are into the "show" scene. Fine, if you get knockoff's everyone will know, then your show car isn't fly.

You get knock off brides to race on? First of all, if I was tech inspecting your car, I WOULD NOT LET YOU ON THE TRACK. Certified Seats only, or GTFO. Any organization that will let you on the track w/o certified seats is a joke.

So, if you are going to get racing seats, get current certified seats, otherwise they are worthless, additionally they are not worth the savings to justify the injury that might be caused. There are lots of certified seats for far less than brides that will be just as safe/perform the same function. Don't let your desire to be jdm get in the way of bodily harm.

YoungGun · 04-07-2008, 07:36 PM

Oh just read that whole thread on the bimmer forums. Good points johngriff.

babowc · 04-07-2008, 07:41 PM

Knock off as shit.
Same seats being sold on my local forums..

It screams knock off.

benjim · 04-07-2008, 07:55 PM

It's funny how on that forum they are trying to justify that it's not fake based on the fact some other company has trade markers the name in another country..

Ack..i guess if the fact that they have the same name legally makes it reall then it must be just as good..

fucking idiots

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjim

It's funny how on that forum they are trying to justify that it's not fake based on the fact some other company has trade markers the name in another country..

Ack..i guess if the fact that they have the same name legally makes it reall then it must be just as good..

fucking idiots

My screen name over there is Don Nguyen, for reference.

I really believe that the original poster of that thread is just trying to sell more seats, to either try and get a deeper discount for himself or even make some money out of it.

However, even certain authentic race/fixed back seats are not FIA certified, but can be legally ran on a track by attaching a back brace to the seat.

johngriff · 04-07-2008, 08:15 PM

However if you don't want to get hassled at the track, you should probably just run an FIA seat. Seats that are not FIA are reclinables (for fanboys) and knockoff's (for fanboys) and OLD OLD Seats.

FIA expires, that way the material/structure is always new and in good shape. Old used seats are not safe either. DON'T CHEAP OUT ON SAFETY GEAR. As Method Man said; "Best protect ya Neck!"

rps13drift · 04-07-2008, 08:19 PM

MOMO start! cheap/comfy/and FIA track legal

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 08:20 PM

Sparco makes a lot of "street race" seats that aren't FIA approved, and are fixed back, IIRC:

http://sparcousa.com/seats_street.asp

BoostedCoupe · 04-07-2008, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungGun

Wait how are they fake? on the provided link he states that the only difference is the shell is frp and not carbon or kevlar

correct me if im wrong but i think bride makes these seats in frp, and kevelar. You can tell they are fake go look on a trusted site for these seats. the price is 1,500+ but yet they are on ebay for 700 shipped. How does that not scream fake?

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 08:23 PM

There is no doubt they are fake, the original poster in that thread even mention that they were Taiwan "Bride", after I questioned him about it.

Nice of him to finally admit to it afterwards, instead of in the original post.

BTW, if anyone has anything they want me to post over there, let me know.

luftrofl · 04-07-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30cabrio

First of all, I personally believe that these seats can not be compared to the original Bride seats that are manufactured in Japan.

However, for sake of argument/discussion, I would like see what your guys' thoughts on this are.

If you have any experience with it, first hand or second hand info, please go ahead and state it.

What prompt me to create this thread, was due to this other one, that was posted on a BMW forum:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=973902

I suspect that the general consensus amongst people who enjoy staying alive will be that buying knockoffs like that is a bonehead move

***S14DB*** · 04-07-2008, 08:35 PM

I'm sure someone would love to hear about his GB...

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 08:44 PM

[quote=S14DB;1951531]I'm sure someone would love to hear about his GB...

I sent an e-mail to them, to see what they have to say/do.

khilgers · 04-07-2008, 08:51 PM

I agree with John. I would not trust my own personal safety for a seat that looks simialr to the original. Bride seats are expensive because they are approved seats that are built to perform. I could have gotten a tenzo R seat, but I saved the extra $ so that I could get my sparco pro 2000. Don't skimp when your life depends on it.

yokotas13 · 04-07-2008, 08:54 PM

Ok
basically the true story here (i talked to a bride JP rep the other day)

the seats are now being outsourced by Tees-USA in China. Tees-USA was the company making and marketing the seats for BRIDE JAPAN. BRIDE JAPAN never trademarked their name, so after a falling out, Tees-USA trademarked BRIDE and moved the factory and production to CHINA, to LOWER costs and MASS PRODUCE.

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotas13

Ok
basically the true story here (i talked to a bride JP rep the other day)

the seats are now being outsourced by Tees-USA in China. Tees-USA was the company making and marketing the seats for BRIDE JAPAN. BRIDE JAPAN never trademarked their name, so after a falling out, Tees-USA trademarked BRIDE and moved the factory and production to CHINA, to LOWER costs and MASS PRODUCE.

This is partially what I wanted to hear as well, someone who may have better/more experience in that particular industry.

My assumptions are only as good as anyone else.

I've seen a lot of companies/manufacturers outsource their products to other countries, only to have it "finished" in Japan, and then branded as Made in Japan, etc.

It's not the first time I have seen a manufacturer go rogue, and try to cut out the middle man, and take the sales themselves or into their own hands.

So is that correct, yokotas? These were always made in China, and outsourced by Japan Bride?

johngriff · 04-07-2008, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotas13

Ok
basically the true story here (i talked to a bride JP rep the other day)

the seats are now being outsourced by Tees-USA in China. Tees-USA was the company making and marketing the seats for BRIDE JAPAN. BRIDE JAPAN never trademarked their name, so after a falling out, Tees-USA trademarked BRIDE and moved the factory and production to CHINA, to LOWER costs and MASS PRODUCE.

Wait whaaaa?

I now laugh at all brides stateside.

Hell, buy a vis seat and save yourself $500.

yokotas13 · 04-07-2008, 09:14 PM

no, they were made in japan i belive up until now
TEES-usa has moved production to a china plant, and making htem super cheap now.

this is straight from a guy at bride, i did copy and paste the wording from another guy on a local forum, becuase he worded it better than me, but the bride rep said the same thing.

BLOX did the same thing to Skunk Racing back a few years ago

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 09:20 PM

So what is the final word on the quality of these then.

So anyone buying any Bride seat from this point on is going to be buying it from one source, and that is from the Chinese manufacturers?

Just looking and comparing it in pictures, the gradient fitment and color looks off between the two seats.

yokotas13 · 04-07-2008, 09:22 PM

another guy i deal with sometimes in GA, he has both sitting in his office

says they are both identical
measured the bride sitchting, placement, etc etc etc
says all the materials are the same, braces, metal thickness etc etc are the same

i mean damn
im just glad i have a brix lol

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 09:34 PM

I tried hitting you up on AIM, but I guess I will post here as well.

When you say you are glad to have a Brix, does that mean this is only affecting the Gias or something?

So aside from the fact that they are visually identical, did he have any comments on its over all build quality and testament of usage over time?

johngriff · 04-07-2008, 09:36 PM

e30 you sound pretty desperate to ball on a budget.

Just buy a REAL racing seat.

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johngriff

e30 you sound pretty desperate to ball on a budget.

Just buy a REAL racing seat.

I am not trying to ball or ball on a budget at all. If you really believe that, then you are judging me incorrectly.

However, I do like knowing the exact details, or as close to the exact details as I can get, regardless of what it may be.

johngriff · 04-07-2008, 09:41 PM

Well. Sounds like the new brides are made in china.

yokota/grant can hook you up with real ones though!

e30cabrio · 04-07-2008, 09:43 PM

Well, if all of the new Brides are made in China, won't that make them the "real" ones now?

Unless you are trying to refer to the older Brides, before production was moved to China?

If that is the case, I think it would be hard to determine that now, considering how similar he said the two are.

04-07-2008, 07:05 PM	#1
e30cabrio Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Input on Ebay Bride GIAS Seats First of all, I personally believe that these seats can not be compared to the original Bride seats that are manufactured in Japan. However, for sake of argument/discussion, I would like see what your guys' thoughts on this are. If you have any experience with it, first hand or second hand info, please go ahead and state it. What prompt me to create this thread, was due to this other one, that was posted on a BMW forum: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=973902 __________________

04-07-2008, 07:07 PM	#2
BoostedCoupe Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Fulton, TN Age: 33 Posts: 1,043 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	They look decent. But i sure they will fade quick and bring soon. They are like all the other ebay brides they are decent for the price but nothing compared to the real ones. for 700 you could buy a real bride. __________________ 92 vert converted 5speed and other little things

04-07-2008, 07:12 PM	#3
Jtuned_andy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,083 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: Jtuned_andy Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I try not to buy knockoffs if I can help it. Support the industry and buy the real thing so they can continue to provide us with quality products where we don't have to question craftsmanship. __________________

04-07-2008, 07:23 PM	#4
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	have some black bride brix knockoffs for 400 if you want them... clean lol.. actually not mine but a friends. they sit kinda high on the bride brackets that he has for them, really comfy but your head is inches away from the roof of the car depending on how tall you are. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME. Last edited by WISH ONE; 04-09-2008 at 05:50 PM..

04-07-2008, 07:32 PM	#6
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Ok, this is just dumb. Knock off safety equipment is by FAR THE DUMBEST THING I'VE HEARD OF. Ok, you get brides because you are into the "show" scene. Fine, if you get knockoff's everyone will know, then your show car isn't fly. You get knock off brides to race on? First of all, if I was tech inspecting your car, I WOULD NOT LET YOU ON THE TRACK. Certified Seats only, or GTFO. Any organization that will let you on the track w/o certified seats is a joke. So, if you are going to get racing seats, get current certified seats, otherwise they are worthless, additionally they are not worth the savings to justify the injury that might be caused. There are lots of certified seats for far less than brides that will be just as safe/perform the same function. Don't let your desire to be jdm get in the way of bodily harm. __________________ [email protected]

04-07-2008, 07:29 PM	#5
YoungGun Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 818-951 SoCal Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Wait how are they fake? on the provided link he states that the only difference is the shell is frp and not carbon or kevlar

04-07-2008, 07:36 PM	#7
YoungGun Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 818-951 SoCal Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Oh just read that whole thread on the bimmer forums. Good points johngriff.

04-07-2008, 07:41 PM	#8
babowc Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: G.NET Posts: 2,659 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Knock off as shit. Same seats being sold on my local forums.. It screams knock off. __________________ My iTrader rating!

04-07-2008, 07:55 PM	#9
benjim Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SLC, Utah Age: 44 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's funny how on that forum they are trying to justify that it's not fake based on the fact some other company has trade markers the name in another country.. Ack..i guess if the fact that they have the same name legally makes it reall then it must be just as good.. fucking idiots

04-07-2008, 08:15 PM	#11
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	However if you don't want to get hassled at the track, you should probably just run an FIA seat. Seats that are not FIA are reclinables (for fanboys) and knockoff's (for fanboys) and OLD OLD Seats. FIA expires, that way the material/structure is always new and in good shape. Old used seats are not safe either. DON'T CHEAP OUT ON SAFETY GEAR. As Method Man said; "Best protect ya Neck!" __________________ [email protected]

04-07-2008, 08:19 PM	#12
rps13drift Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ BRO!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 1,194 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: rps13drift Feedback Score: 6 reviews	MOMO start! cheap/comfy/and FIA track legal __________________ http://allies-drift.blogspot.com/

04-07-2008, 08:20 PM	#13
e30cabrio Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sparco makes a lot of "street race" seats that aren't FIA approved, and are fixed back, IIRC: http://sparcousa.com/seats_street.asp __________________

04-07-2008, 08:23 PM	#15
e30cabrio Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There is no doubt they are fake, the original poster in that thread even mention that they were Taiwan "Bride", after I questioned him about it. Nice of him to finally admit to it afterwards, instead of in the original post. BTW, if anyone has anything they want me to post over there, let me know. __________________

04-07-2008, 08:35 PM	#17
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm sure someone would love to hear about his GB... __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

04-07-2008, 08:44 PM	#18
e30cabrio Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	[quote=S14DB;1951531]I'm sure someone would love to hear about his GB... I sent an e-mail to them, to see what they have to say/do. __________________

04-07-2008, 08:51 PM	#19
khilgers Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Twin Cities Age: 43 Posts: 893 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: khilgers Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree with John. I would not trust my own personal safety for a seat that looks simialr to the original. Bride seats are expensive because they are approved seats that are built to perform. I could have gotten a tenzo R seat, but I saved the extra $ so that I could get my sparco pro 2000. Don't skimp when your life depends on it.

04-07-2008, 08:54 PM	#20
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Ok basically the true story here (i talked to a bride JP rep the other day) the seats are now being outsourced by Tees-USA in China. Tees-USA was the company making and marketing the seats for BRIDE JAPAN. BRIDE JAPAN never trademarked their name, so after a falling out, Tees-USA trademarked BRIDE and moved the factory and production to CHINA, to LOWER costs and MASS PRODUCE. __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

04-07-2008, 09:14 PM	#23
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	no, they were made in japan i belive up until now TEES-usa has moved production to a china plant, and making htem super cheap now. this is straight from a guy at bride, i did copy and paste the wording from another guy on a local forum, becuase he worded it better than me, but the bride rep said the same thing. BLOX did the same thing to Skunk Racing back a few years ago __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

04-07-2008, 09:20 PM	#24
e30cabrio Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So what is the final word on the quality of these then. So anyone buying any Bride seat from this point on is going to be buying it from one source, and that is from the Chinese manufacturers? Just looking and comparing it in pictures, the gradient fitment and color looks off between the two seats. __________________

04-07-2008, 09:22 PM	#25
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	another guy i deal with sometimes in GA, he has both sitting in his office says they are both identical measured the bride sitchting, placement, etc etc etc says all the materials are the same, braces, metal thickness etc etc are the same i mean damn im just glad i have a brix lol __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

04-07-2008, 09:34 PM	#26
e30cabrio Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I tried hitting you up on AIM, but I guess I will post here as well. When you say you are glad to have a Brix, does that mean this is only affecting the Gias or something? So aside from the fact that they are visually identical, did he have any comments on its over all build quality and testament of usage over time? __________________

04-07-2008, 09:36 PM	#27
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	e30 you sound pretty desperate to ball on a budget. Just buy a REAL racing seat. __________________ [email protected]

04-07-2008, 09:41 PM	#29
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Well. Sounds like the new brides are made in china. yokota/grant can hook you up with real ones though! __________________ [email protected]

04-07-2008, 09:43 PM	#30
e30cabrio Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, if all of the new Brides are made in China, won't that make them the "real" ones now? Unless you are trying to refer to the older Brides, before production was moved to China? If that is the case, I think it would be hard to determine that now, considering how similar he said the two are. __________________