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cmedrift240 · 03-07-2007, 05:24 PM

I am lookin at putting in a short shifter in my car and i wanted to do a little research first. Im looking at either B & M or Megan...im leaning towards B&M the most, if there is any other great brands to choose from please let me know.

As well as my buddy told me a short shifter will screw with your gear box...is this true or avoidable. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

cmcdougle · 03-07-2007, 05:27 PM

A short shifter shouldn't mess up anything; after all, it's just doing the same job as your other one, just with less effort. The only way it would screw with your gearbox is if you got ahead of yourself and shifted too fast or did something wrong, and ground gears.

My friend has a B&M ss. He likes it. I'm going to get one of those sometime in the future. . .

sw20>>s14 · 03-07-2007, 05:30 PM

C's...got mine used for super cheap...no complaints what so ever...nismo, to my understanding isnt exactly a short shifter, but changes the pivot for more of a solid throw...ebay ones are getting better and better in design and quality, but use at your discretion (of quality and being flamed by e-thug brandwhores)...

some argue that itll make your tranny grind, but i dont believe it...the arguement does make sense and may hold some validity, but it isnt happening to me so ill keep my C's thank you very much...

cmcdougle · 03-07-2007, 05:59 PM

eBay ftL!!!

I just sold a dash there, and the guy opened a Paypal claim after like a week and a half, even though it went to Canada (10-14 days to ship), then escalated AFTER he received the dash. He locked up my account for 2 months; it just got resolved a few days ago, so he opened up an eBay claim.

And the eBay dealers use superglue on their turbos, no joke. . . yeah just stay away from eBay.

**Phlip** · 03-07-2007, 06:03 PM

B&M is the win.

... second would be the one on ebay from Deluboz, I have not heard a complaint about theirs yet. The thing is actually catching them with one.

SochBAT · 03-07-2007, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmcdougle

eBay ftL!!!

I just sold a dash there, and the guy opened a Paypal claim after like a week and a half, even though it went to Canada (10-14 days to ship), then escalated AFTER he received the dash. He locked up my account for 2 months; it just got resolved a few days ago, so he opened up an eBay claim.

And the eBay dealers use superglue on their turbos, no joke. . . yeah just stay away from eBay.

WTF are you talking about?

most ebay dealers don't touch the product, and send em out direct from the containers. I worked for one eBayer.

B&M = best throw.

C's is good, but from my buddy's that have em on their car, the vibration is horrendous.

From what i read about, SS' decrease shifting time, and increase the wear and tear on the tranny syncros.

But from my personal experience, it felt right all the time, no tranny wear, and nice clear tranny fluid with no shavings or anything of the sort.

Do it right.

mRclARK1 · 03-07-2007, 06:08 PM

I'm actually looking for a short shifter right now; and I came across a Fidanza one for the SR20 on Ebay... anyone have any experience with that one?

cmcdougle · 03-07-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sochbat

WTF are you talking about?

most ebay dealers don't touch the product, and send em out direct from the containers. I worked for one eBayer.

B&M = best throw.

C's is good, but from my buddy's that have em on their car, the vibration is horrendous.

From what i read about, SS' decrease shifting time, and increase the wear and tear on the tranny syncros.

But from my personal experience, it felt right all the time, no tranny wear, and nice clear tranny fluid with no shavings or anything of the sort.

Do it right.

I talked to my friend, it is SSautochrome. He bought a turbo from them, and it was superglued together. But yeah.

The shortshifter shouldn't hurt the tranny, since all you're doing is shortening the time that you shift, because you're shortening the distance. It would only hurt it if you did something wrong, like shift too quickly or on top of the clutch or something.

SochBAT · 03-07-2007, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mRclARK1

...Fidanza one for the SR20 on Ebay...

All trannies are the same.

mRclARK1 · 03-07-2007, 06:22 PM

^^^

.... just typed what I saw on the listing. lol

kandyflip445 · 03-07-2007, 07:15 PM

The shifter from Deluboz is a good one. Looks exactly like the B&M and works very well. I've had it in for a couple years now and it's been working perfectly.

arkive43 · 03-07-2007, 07:56 PM

b&m seems to be the most popular, because it reliable. im gona get one soon or id like to try that "Deluboz" shifter.

and if u let ur friend buy a SSauto "turbo" your not a good friend lol.....

quentinchan · 03-07-2007, 08:09 PM

My B&M makes weird noise whenever my car is on high RPM. It is pretty annoying!

sw20>>s14 · 03-07-2007, 08:14 PM

the older models came with the shift knob that rattles @ high RPMs...nothing to be worried about..."ver. IIs" or whatever they call it come with revised knobs...

super240sx7185 · 03-07-2007, 08:33 PM

i have a cosmo racing ss. it feels awesome, no weird noises, good tight feel, short throw, its really everything u could want in a ss.

gotta240 · 03-07-2007, 09:15 PM

i guess i'm a freekin retard...but can anyone PLEASE link to this "wonder shifter" from ebay?

I'll buy the damn thing right now as long as it is the same design as BM, but can't find it!!

Also, have you guys seen the adjustable one? thoughts/opinions?

super240sx7185 · 03-07-2007, 09:18 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Racin...99975522QQrdZ1
That's the one i have. I think its a very nice shifter as i previously stated.

**Phlip** · 03-07-2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotta240

i guess i'm a freekin retard...but can anyone PLEASE link to this "wonder shifter" from ebay?

I'll buy the damn thing right now as long as it is the same design as BM, but can't find it!!

Also, have you guys seen the adjustable one? thoughts/opinions?

Near the top of your screen, click "User CP," one of the comments left is from me, it is a link... Follow it and do what you need to do.

sw20>>s14 · 03-07-2007, 09:34 PM

hey! a link via posi rep?

whats that link again? i cant find the SS on ebay, can someone link me?

hah

gotta240 · 03-07-2007, 09:36 PM

Sweet. Thanks a lot Phlip!!

5t341tH · 03-07-2007, 11:29 PM

i bought this 1

works great. no shaking or vibrating at all
it says its a Version2 on the ebay auction page

Dream240 · 03-08-2007, 05:54 AM

I recently bought a B&M when I did my tranny swap. Crappy part is I ended up getting the old version that rattles above 5500 rpms. They're the same model number just different production dates. And they cost the same.

I got mine from an ebay wherehouse seller so beware. I don't even think asking them will priduce a safe result since most sellers don't know where they come from they just order them. Since they're the same price if you get them on a company's website just go there. And hopefully you won't get screwed like I did. You COULD try B&M 's website.....

Overall the shifter works great and shifts real solid, it's just the rattle noise can be distracting....makes you think your clutch or tranny is going out.

GL

**Phlip** · 03-08-2007, 07:31 AM

Oh shit, link in the posi didn't give him the whole thing, I will PM it

Sir · 03-08-2007, 09:52 AM

same shit i bought a while back
I had no vibrations issues, using Nismo GT knob

Sean14 · 03-08-2007, 10:54 AM

There ya go, used B & M ss for sale on this site...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=136363
(Not mine, just happened to see it)

!Zar! · 03-08-2007, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmcdougle

I talked to my friend, it is SSautochrome. He bought a turbo from them, and it was superglued together. But yeah.

The shortshifter shouldn't hurt the tranny, since all you're doing is shortening the time that you shift, because you're shortening the distance. It would only hurt it if you did something wrong, like shift too quickly or on top of the clutch or something.

Sochbat is correct. Yes the shifter shortens your throws. But it also allows you to shift faster. The faster you shift the more stress you put your syncros through. Simple math people...

I've never used knockoff ebay shifters, But I know my B&Mv2 works great. Some people who fail at life keep mis-shifting while the girly girls say it's too notchy and hard to change gears.

Dream240 · 03-08-2007, 03:30 PM

To follow up on the B&M shifter and the humming/rattle at high rpms, it appears that PDM racing has the newer ones just by looking at the box.

http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/drivetrain.html

The box that mine came in was different than this one. I'm assuming that this means these will be the newer version with the improved dampening.

And as for shift knobs, I have the Nismo leather knob which feels nice, but I don't see why the knob would matter as to the noise.

sw20>>s14 · 03-08-2007, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir

using Nismo GT knob

mmmmm short shifters and GT knobs feel soooooooooooo guuuuuuuuuuuud

ill never replace that setup...

SochBAT · 03-08-2007, 07:47 PM

Try Shortshifter w/ Elephantpenis Stock shifter. Bestest!

kandyflip445 · 03-08-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

Sochbat is correct. Yes the shifter shortens your throws. But it also allows you to shift faster. The faster you shift the more stress you put your syncros through. Simple math people...

I've never used knockoff ebay shifters, But I know my B&Mv2 works great. Some people who fail at life keep mis-shifting while the girly girls say it's too notchy and hard to change gears.

In a way it would put more wear because you give the syncro less time to bring the speed gear up in rpms so it can engage without grinding. With good fluid in there it shouldn't be a problem. There is also less leverage with a shortshifter because of where the pivot or fulcrum is. In a truck with a standard transmission with the shifter coming out of the floor you can put a ton of stress on the transmission because of how long the shifter is. So in all I think it kinda balances out with regards to wear on the tranny. As long as you shift properly and the maintenance is kept up there shouldn't be any problems.

03-07-2007, 05:24 PM	#1
cmedrift240 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 40 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Short Shifters I am lookin at putting in a short shifter in my car and i wanted to do a little research first. Im looking at either B & M or Megan...im leaning towards B&M the most, if there is any other great brands to choose from please let me know. As well as my buddy told me a short shifter will screw with your gear box...is this true or avoidable. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

03-07-2007, 05:27 PM	#2
cmcdougle Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,361 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A short shifter shouldn't mess up anything; after all, it's just doing the same job as your other one, just with less effort. The only way it would screw with your gearbox is if you got ahead of yourself and shifted too fast or did something wrong, and ground gears. My friend has a B&M ss. He likes it. I'm going to get one of those sometime in the future. . . __________________

03-07-2007, 05:30 PM	#3
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	C's...got mine used for super cheap...no complaints what so ever...nismo, to my understanding isnt exactly a short shifter, but changes the pivot for more of a solid throw...ebay ones are getting better and better in design and quality, but use at your discretion (of quality and being flamed by e-thug brandwhores)... some argue that itll make your tranny grind, but i dont believe it...the arguement does make sense and may hold some validity, but it isnt happening to me so ill keep my C's thank you very much... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

03-07-2007, 05:59 PM	#4
cmcdougle Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,361 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	eBay ftL!!! I just sold a dash there, and the guy opened a Paypal claim after like a week and a half, even though it went to Canada (10-14 days to ship), then escalated AFTER he received the dash. He locked up my account for 2 months; it just got resolved a few days ago, so he opened up an eBay claim. And the eBay dealers use superglue on their turbos, no joke. . . yeah just stay away from eBay. __________________

03-07-2007, 06:03 PM	#5
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	B&M is the win. ... second would be the one on ebay from Deluboz, I have not heard a complaint about theirs yet. The thing is actually catching them with one. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

03-07-2007, 06:08 PM	#7
mRclARK1 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Location? Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm actually looking for a short shifter right now; and I came across a Fidanza one for the SR20 on Ebay... anyone have any experience with that one? __________________

03-07-2007, 06:22 PM	#10
mRclARK1 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Location? Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^ .... just typed what I saw on the listing. lol __________________

03-07-2007, 07:15 PM	#11
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The shifter from Deluboz is a good one. Looks exactly like the B&M and works very well. I've had it in for a couple years now and it's been working perfectly. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

03-07-2007, 07:56 PM	#12
arkive43 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: houston Age: 41 Posts: 795 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	b&m seems to be the most popular, because it reliable. im gona get one soon or id like to try that "Deluboz" shifter. and if u let ur friend buy a SSauto "turbo" your not a good friend lol.....

03-07-2007, 08:09 PM	#13
quentinchan Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: quentinchan Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My B&M makes weird noise whenever my car is on high RPM. It is pretty annoying!

03-07-2007, 08:14 PM	#14
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	the older models came with the shift knob that rattles @ high RPMs...nothing to be worried about..."ver. IIs" or whatever they call it come with revised knobs... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

03-07-2007, 08:33 PM	#15
super240sx7185 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: macon georgia Age: 39 Posts: 1,262 Trader Rating: (83) Feedback Score: 83 reviews	i have a cosmo racing ss. it feels awesome, no weird noises, good tight feel, short throw, its really everything u could want in a ss.

03-07-2007, 09:15 PM	#16
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	i guess i'm a freekin retard...but can anyone PLEASE link to this "wonder shifter" from ebay? I'll buy the damn thing right now as long as it is the same design as BM, but can't find it!! Also, have you guys seen the adjustable one? thoughts/opinions?

03-07-2007, 09:18 PM	#17
super240sx7185 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: macon georgia Age: 39 Posts: 1,262 Trader Rating: (83) Feedback Score: 83 reviews	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Racin...99975522QQrdZ1 That's the one i have. I think its a very nice shifter as i previously stated.

03-07-2007, 09:34 PM	#19
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	hey! a link via posi rep? whats that link again? i cant find the SS on ebay, can someone link me? hah __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

03-07-2007, 09:36 PM	#20
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Sweet. Thanks a lot Phlip!!

03-07-2007, 11:29 PM	#21
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 36 Posts: 2,787 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	i bought this 1 works great. no shaking or vibrating at all it says its a Version2 on the ebay auction page __________________ lexus baby Last edited by 5t341tH; 03-10-2007 at 01:44 AM..

03-08-2007, 05:54 AM	#22
Dream240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Inland Empire, California Age: 46 Posts: 2,188 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I recently bought a B&M when I did my tranny swap. Crappy part is I ended up getting the old version that rattles above 5500 rpms. They're the same model number just different production dates. And they cost the same. I got mine from an ebay wherehouse seller so beware. I don't even think asking them will priduce a safe result since most sellers don't know where they come from they just order them. Since they're the same price if you get them on a company's website just go there. And hopefully you won't get screwed like I did. You COULD try B&M 's website..... Overall the shifter works great and shifts real solid, it's just the rattle noise can be distracting....makes you think your clutch or tranny is going out. GL __________________ Don't mess with my monkey...he's loaded.

03-08-2007, 07:31 AM	#23
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Oh shit, link in the posi didn't give him the whole thing, I will PM it __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

03-08-2007, 10:54 AM	#25
Sean14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 84 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There ya go, used B & M ss for sale on this site... http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=136363 (Not mine, just happened to see it)

03-08-2007, 03:30 PM	#27
Dream240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Inland Empire, California Age: 46 Posts: 2,188 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	To follow up on the B&M shifter and the humming/rattle at high rpms, it appears that PDM racing has the newer ones just by looking at the box. http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/drivetrain.html The box that mine came in was different than this one. I'm assuming that this means these will be the newer version with the improved dampening. And as for shift knobs, I have the Nismo leather knob which feels nice, but I don't see why the knob would matter as to the noise. __________________ Don't mess with my monkey...he's loaded.

03-08-2007, 07:47 PM	#29
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 39 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Try Shortshifter w/ Elephantpenis Stock shifter. Bestest!