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ripnbst · 06-05-2007, 01:21 PM

Ok so heres my situation this past friday my car over-heated (DOHC KA) due to my radiator cracking and the motor sounds like it has no compresion at all. I am trying to put together a parts list that is within my 6k budget. The motor is an S13 Blacktop @ 2700$ with everything included except the following: Exhaust, Downpipe, BOV, Intercooler, Clutch, Injectors, Radiator, and Fuel Pump. I would also like to throw in a boost controller, most likely MBC because they're cheap or a 2-in-1 gauge/controller setup. The motor will be going into an S13 coupe. My question is what parts do you guys recommend to fill the above mentioned spots. I really would rather avoid buying Megan everything to make budget, if you think I would have to do that to make my 6k cut-off then say it. Vendors feel free to chime in with some deals you have going on right now that may help me out. Any and all intelligent/serious responses are greatly apreciated, thanks in advance.

ltsPureLuck · 06-05-2007, 01:31 PM

so you have around 3.3k to spend, you should be good, even better if you get some used parts. i know you want to avoid megan stuff (alot do), but some of it is pretty decent for its price like the downpipe and testpipe.

apexi exhaust $300
megan downpipe $<100
megan testpipe $50ish
hks ssqv $150-200
greddy fmic(you can just buy ebay ic's, theyre fine but just heavy) $200-400
piping $100
exedy stage 2 clutch $200-300
stock sr 370cc injectors $<100
koyo radiator $<300
hoses $50-100
walbro 255lph fuel pump $90
mbc $50

these are really really rough estimates, around be around 2000s, feel free to correct me, hope this helps

edit: i dont know what your plan is but with the extra money upgrade the suspension/wheels/body work

uwntsum · 06-05-2007, 01:35 PM

gaskets, seals, spark plugs, water pump, motor mounts, etc... all that stuff i would change out since the motor is out. If you plan to do the clutch i would throw in a flywheel since your pulling it apart but if your on a tight budget then skip it. Nothing wrong with the megan downpipe and elbow, i've been using both for quite some time now with no problems. I would suggest waiting on the FMIC if your motor set really comes with everything like stock piping and the factory smic. You can upgrade that later down the road when your ready to boost more. Greddy oil pan is not a bad upgrade either since most motors have dented pans plus the greddy holds more oil which is a plus. Get the parts that will make your car run smooth and reliable.

MomentumGT · 06-05-2007, 02:15 PM

Sent you a pm.

-Jon

DP_Michelle G · 06-05-2007, 03:24 PM

1.

why are you going to pay $2700 on that when you dont even get the following: stock BOV, Intercooler, Clutch, Injectors, Radiator and most likely everthing else your going to need to do the swap.

I payed 2300 for my blk top front clip and that came with everything. just keep looking

ripnbst · 06-05-2007, 04:02 PM

The reason I am paying what I am is because I am doing it through a local shop that is the only one I trust with this kind of thing. The other reason I cant keep looking is because this car is my DD and I need it up and running again ASAP. Which is also the reason I am not doing the swap myself, I will be paying the shop to do it. I cant afford the downtime if I hit a snag during the install nor do I have the resources to get parts quickly if something goes wrong lik ethey do. Not to mention I dont have the tools, but I could get them. Bottom line is I dont have the time to do it myself or keep looking til I find a real good deal on a clip. I also live on the east coast so its not like I am swimming in front clips like you lucky bastards out west. Thanks for all the input and keep it coming guys/gals. All help is appreciated.

Slidin240Wayz · 06-05-2007, 05:41 PM

yea man you are paying too much for the engine. My friend got the whole setup for less than 2k.

Carlos

2l84u · 06-05-2007, 06:01 PM

I did the same thing, but ended up spending too much. One thing after another i wanted to replace after having the motor out. Ive got over 11k invested but i did buy everything new. My car is for sale now because im getting married and need to pay off my debts. CC are about 4k. Depending on the condition of your car you could swap all together and sell rolling shell for 1k. take a look, http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=145956 .

deafmonkey7 · 06-05-2007, 06:22 PM

wow, small world... i just came back from the garage and my car is in the same situation, only ive got a 2k budget for now.

JDS Performance · 06-05-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2l84u

I did the same thing, but ended up spending too much. One thing after another i wanted to replace after having the motor out. Ive got over 11k invested but i did buy everything new. My car is for sale now because im getting married and need to pay off my debts. CC are about 4k. Depending on the condition of your car you could swap all together and sell rolling shell for 1k. take a look, http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=145956 .

You have $11k in that s13? Wow someone raped you!

Also another gripe of mine - why is everyone buying $50 test pipes?
The stock s14 2nd cat - the dummy cat - is just that a dummy cat - nothing inside it - the best "LEGAL" test pipe there is!

91ka · 06-06-2007, 02:10 AM

parts are important too but shouldnt you also look into tunning the motor with the turbo as well? it should cost a pretty penny for tunning also. i mean ive seen many motors turboed but they all sound and dont last for shit because the tunning wasn't done.

S13ORLANDO · 06-06-2007, 05:44 AM

The other reason I cant keep looking is because this car is my DD and I need it up and running again ASAP. Which is also the reason I am not doing the swap myself, I will be paying the shop to do it. I cant afford the downtime if I hit a snag during the install nor do I have the resources to get parts quickly if something goes wrong lik ethey do. Not to mention I dont have the tools, but I could get them. Bottom line is I dont have the time to do it myself or keep looking til I find a real good deal on a clip. I also live on the east coast so its not like I am swimming in front clips like you lucky bastards out west. Thanks for all the input and keep it coming guys/gals. All help is appreciated.

Hello,
Low Budget,SWAP,and Daily Driver= recipe for Disaster. If you're looking to
perform all this on your DD then be prepared to take Public Transportation.
My advice is to get a BEATER DD for a couple of grand. Youcan then approach
the SR SWAP for what it really is, a "hobby". Which may provide you with
daily transportation.
I watched the owner of a TUNER/DRIFT SHOP become stranded in a KMART parking lot in his S13/SR. This was about 5 years ago.He was able to call his mechanic and DRIFT TOW VEHICLE come over.
good luck
bob

usdm180sx · 06-06-2007, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripnbst

Ok so heres my situation this past friday my car over-heated (DOHC KA) due to my radiator cracking and the motor sounds like it has no compresion at all. I am trying to put together a parts list that is within my 6k budget. The motor is an S13 Blacktop @ 2700$ with everything included except the following: Exhaust, Downpipe, BOV, Intercooler, Clutch, Injectors, Radiator, and Fuel Pump. I would also like to throw in a boost controller, most likely MBC because they're cheap or a 2-in-1 gauge/controller setup. The motor will be going into an S13 coupe. My question is what parts do you guys recommend to fill the above mentioned spots. I really would rather avoid buying Megan everything to make budget, if you think I would have to do that to make my 6k cut-off then say it. Vendors feel free to chime in with some deals you have going on right now that may help me out. Any and all intelligent/serious responses are greatly apreciated, thanks in advance.

IMHO $2700 is too much. You can get a clip from a good reliable souce for ~$2000. Make sure the compression is tested and good. Replace the seals. Run it STOCK except for what usually needs to be replaced (intake, downpipe, exhaust, etc.) to make sure everything runs ok. Worry about mods later.

bwake 5 · 06-06-2007, 09:21 AM

that is too much for the motor........ i bought my s14 kouki motor for less than that..... another thing, you will kick yourself in the nuts if you dont buy a front clip, i guarentee it will save you time and money........ BELIEVE ME I MADE THAT MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did my whole build ( s13 chasis, s14 motor, front mount intercooler, hks bov, walboro fuel pump, koyo radiator, all the hoses (which have to be custom and are a pain in the butt), boost gauge, air to fuel gauge, and many more for $6000

Slidin240Wayz · 06-06-2007, 10:40 AM

Or you can just buy a reliable civic

SILVIA_KIDs14.5 · 06-12-2007, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripnbst

Ok so heres my situation this past friday my car over-heated (DOHC KA) due to my radiator cracking and the motor sounds like it has no compresion at all. I am trying to put together a parts list that is within my 6k budget. The motor is an S13 Blacktop @ 2700$ with everything included except the following: Exhaust, Downpipe, BOV, Intercooler, Clutch, Injectors, Radiator, and Fuel Pump. I would also like to throw in a boost controller, most likely MBC because they're cheap or a 2-in-1 gauge/controller setup. The motor will be going into an S13 coupe. My question is what parts do you guys recommend to fill the above mentioned spots. I really would rather avoid buying Megan everything to make budget, if you think I would have to do that to make my 6k cut-off then say it. Vendors feel free to chime in with some deals you have going on right now that may help me out. Any and all intelligent/serious responses are greatly apreciated, thanks in advance.

First of all if your goin with a s13 go wit the red top and you need to source better cuz they def can be bought for around 1800 cuz i jus swaped my s14 wit a s14 blacktop and the swap - install cost less then wut your paying it would be in your best intrest to google it

06-05-2007, 01:21 PM	#1
ripnbst Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Age: 38 Posts: 814 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	6k budget SR20 swap need input Ok so heres my situation this past friday my car over-heated (DOHC KA) due to my radiator cracking and the motor sounds like it has no compresion at all. I am trying to put together a parts list that is within my 6k budget. The motor is an S13 Blacktop @ 2700$ with everything included except the following: Exhaust, Downpipe, BOV, Intercooler, Clutch, Injectors, Radiator, and Fuel Pump. I would also like to throw in a boost controller, most likely MBC because they're cheap or a 2-in-1 gauge/controller setup. The motor will be going into an S13 coupe. My question is what parts do you guys recommend to fill the above mentioned spots. I really would rather avoid buying Megan everything to make budget, if you think I would have to do that to make my 6k cut-off then say it. Vendors feel free to chime in with some deals you have going on right now that may help me out. Any and all intelligent/serious responses are greatly apreciated, thanks in advance. __________________ In the market for a Clean Coupe

06-05-2007, 02:15 PM	#4
MomentumGT Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Riverside/Perris CA Age: 46 Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sent you a pm. -Jon __________________ momentumgt.com - "building blocks of speed"

06-05-2007, 03:24 PM	#5
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 42 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	1. why are you going to pay $2700 on that when you dont even get the following: stock BOV, Intercooler, Clutch, Injectors, Radiator and most likely everthing else your going to need to do the swap. I payed 2300 for my blk top front clip and that came with everything. just keep looking __________________ BC RACING COILOVER REVIEW

06-05-2007, 04:02 PM	#6
ripnbst Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Age: 38 Posts: 814 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The reason I am paying what I am is because I am doing it through a local shop that is the only one I trust with this kind of thing. The other reason I cant keep looking is because this car is my DD and I need it up and running again ASAP. Which is also the reason I am not doing the swap myself, I will be paying the shop to do it. I cant afford the downtime if I hit a snag during the install nor do I have the resources to get parts quickly if something goes wrong lik ethey do. Not to mention I dont have the tools, but I could get them. Bottom line is I dont have the time to do it myself or keep looking til I find a real good deal on a clip. I also live on the east coast so its not like I am swimming in front clips like you lucky bastards out west. Thanks for all the input and keep it coming guys/gals. All help is appreciated. __________________ In the market for a Clean Coupe

06-05-2007, 05:41 PM	#7
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 40 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	yea man you are paying too much for the engine. My friend got the whole setup for less than 2k. Carlos __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

06-05-2007, 01:31 PM	#2
ltsPureLuck Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so you have around 3.3k to spend, you should be good, even better if you get some used parts. i know you want to avoid megan stuff (alot do), but some of it is pretty decent for its price like the downpipe and testpipe. apexi exhaust $300 megan downpipe $<100 megan testpipe $50ish hks ssqv $150-200 greddy fmic(you can just buy ebay ic's, theyre fine but just heavy) $200-400 piping $100 exedy stage 2 clutch $200-300 stock sr 370cc injectors $<100 koyo radiator $<300 hoses $50-100 walbro 255lph fuel pump $90 mbc $50 these are really really rough estimates, around be around 2000s, feel free to correct me, hope this helps edit: i dont know what your plan is but with the extra money upgrade the suspension/wheels/body work

06-05-2007, 01:35 PM	#3
uwntsum Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Long Beach Posts: 212 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	gaskets, seals, spark plugs, water pump, motor mounts, etc... all that stuff i would change out since the motor is out. If you plan to do the clutch i would throw in a flywheel since your pulling it apart but if your on a tight budget then skip it. Nothing wrong with the megan downpipe and elbow, i've been using both for quite some time now with no problems. I would suggest waiting on the FMIC if your motor set really comes with everything like stock piping and the factory smic. You can upgrade that later down the road when your ready to boost more. Greddy oil pan is not a bad upgrade either since most motors have dented pans plus the greddy holds more oil which is a plus. Get the parts that will make your car run smooth and reliable.

06-05-2007, 06:01 PM	#8
2l84u Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I did the same thing, but ended up spending too much. One thing after another i wanted to replace after having the motor out. Ive got over 11k invested but i did buy everything new. My car is for sale now because im getting married and need to pay off my debts. CC are about 4k. Depending on the condition of your car you could swap all together and sell rolling shell for 1k. take a look, http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=145956 .

06-05-2007, 06:22 PM	#9
deafmonkey7 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Glendale Age: 36 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow, small world... i just came back from the garage and my car is in the same situation, only ive got a 2k budget for now.

06-06-2007, 02:10 AM	#11
91ka Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CA Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	parts are important too but shouldnt you also look into tunning the motor with the turbo as well? it should cost a pretty penny for tunning also. i mean ive seen many motors turboed but they all sound and dont last for shit because the tunning wasn't done.

06-06-2007, 05:44 AM	#12
S13ORLANDO Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando,Fl Age: 70 Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The other reason I cant keep looking is because this car is my DD and I need it up and running again ASAP. Which is also the reason I am not doing the swap myself, I will be paying the shop to do it. I cant afford the downtime if I hit a snag during the install nor do I have the resources to get parts quickly if something goes wrong lik ethey do. Not to mention I dont have the tools, but I could get them. Bottom line is I dont have the time to do it myself or keep looking til I find a real good deal on a clip. I also live on the east coast so its not like I am swimming in front clips like you lucky bastards out west. Thanks for all the input and keep it coming guys/gals. All help is appreciated. Hello, Low Budget,SWAP,and Daily Driver= recipe for Disaster. If you're looking to perform all this on your DD then be prepared to take Public Transportation. My advice is to get a BEATER DD for a couple of grand. Youcan then approach the SR SWAP for what it really is, a "hobby". Which may provide you with daily transportation. I watched the owner of a TUNER/DRIFT SHOP become stranded in a KMART parking lot in his S13/SR. This was about 5 years ago.He was able to call his mechanic and DRIFT TOW VEHICLE come over. good luck bob

06-06-2007, 09:21 AM	#14
bwake 5 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: victoria tx Age: 36 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that is too much for the motor........ i bought my s14 kouki motor for less than that..... another thing, you will kick yourself in the nuts if you dont buy a front clip, i guarentee it will save you time and money........ BELIEVE ME I MADE THAT MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did my whole build ( s13 chasis, s14 motor, front mount intercooler, hks bov, walboro fuel pump, koyo radiator, all the hoses (which have to be custom and are a pain in the butt), boost gauge, air to fuel gauge, and many more for $6000

06-06-2007, 10:40 AM	#15
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 40 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Or you can just buy a reliable civic __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!