Z33 Question open to any advice, criticism, idea etc...

[dels1zzle]

Well im currently building my girls brother's Z33




When i got the car in my hands ive done Stillen STI Ceramic headers, Custom Test Pipes, and welded em up to his Invidia Exhaust he had already got with the car... Car also has Fujita Short ram intakes...
I was wondering if there was any other bolt ons that would help with building the car all motor, cuz he really has his mind set not to go boost what so ever


i have plans on how to ima go about building it up a lil more break his 420- 450hp goal just not quite sure how much its goin to take to get it there

car has 6 spd gear box, with aluminum drive shaft, and factory optional LSD That im proly goin to re-gear
Motor is the VQ35HR
Also he wants to drop it bought an inch. What set-ups would be bang for the buck

Thanks,

[shiftdrift]

plenum spacer, cams, tune, nitrous, as for lowering just get lowering springs.

[dazed]

All motor builds at that power level are going to be more expensive than just going boost.

Good luck.

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by shiftdrift

plenum spacer, cams, tune, nitrous, as for lowering just get lowering springs.

Plenum spacer won't work on an HR, but cams/valvetrain and headwork (ie; port and polish) would be decent, but even with a flash would probably not even net him 300whp. With nitrous it would bring him a lot closer but in the end forced induction would be the best choice and far cheaper compared to trying to build an NA vq reaching into the 400's. Hell the nismo 380 rs is making 350 hp with a stroker kit Fairlady Z Version NISMO Type 380RS DEBUT!!

[dels1zzle]

alright alright i see, and yea i found out the hard way that the plentum spacer didnt work as soon as it got here and i sold the next day....


So as for boost related building: Supercharger vs. Turbo on these HR motor which feels, reacts, is more cost efficient being done the right way????

[Corbic]

So he/you ditched the carbon fiber drive shaft for an aluminum one?

450hp? N/A? Bolt in a LS7.

The most powerful NA DE in America around 298whp and that is after $10,000 in work.

HRs put down ~280whp, you are not going to add 200hp.

It's my opinion that N/A mods to any 350Z is pointless and a waste of money. Pick an exhaust you like (sound/style), and pick an intake you like. Done.

You will never motive the 3-5whp gain of a spacer and headers are not shaving a second off your quarter.

Mods to do? Lightweight Flywheel, Clutch, Coilovers, wheels.

[dels1zzle]

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

Plenum spacer won't work on an HR, but cams/valvetrain and headwork (ie; port and polish) would be decent, but even with a flash would probably not even net him 300whp. With nitrous it would bring him a lot closer but in the end forced induction would be the best choice and far cheaper compared to trying to build an NA vq reaching into the 400's. Hell the nismo 380 rs is making 350 hp with a stroker kit Fairlady Z Version NISMO Type 380RS DEBUT!!

i like the link you posted thats sort of something i was looking for to show em that "Cost Wise" All motor is a Shit load more

[dels1zzle]

Originally Posted by Corbic

So he/you ditched the carbon fiber drive shaft for an aluminum one?

450hp? N/A? Bolt in a LS7.

The most powerful NA DE in America around 298whp and that is after $10,000 in work.

HRs put down ~280whp, you are not going to add 200hp.

It's my opinion that N/A mods to any 350Z is pointless and a waste of money. Pick an exhaust you like (sound/style), and pick an intake you like. Done.

You will never motive the 3-5whp gain of a spacer and headers are not shaving a second off your quarter.

Mods to do? Lightweight Flywheel, Clutch, Coilovers, wheels.

the motor is also a HR motor not a DE
thats he he had got it fromw hen he bought from the dealer last year i saw it and was at AW at first but i also wasnt sure if they all came with the carbon fiber drive shaft or both of em depending on how loaded the car came from factory..


Also to note this guy isnt the "Ima hit the track or go slide this thing around the track" knda guy he just wants his car a certain way, kind of a luxury hes giving himself for working his ass off... and as far as you guys have commented that NA Build isnt worth the money or time cuz in the end its just more money spent than power added

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by dels1zzle

i like the link you posted thats sort of something i was looking for to show em that "Cost Wise" All motor is a Shit load more

You're welcome, and cost wise a supercharger is going to be the way to go, but more than likely won't yield as much as a twin turbo kit would, but the gtm and stillen superchargers(I'm not talking about stillens POS roots blower either) are making around 500-550whp if I recall correctly
GTM Performance Engineering 350Z HR SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS RELEASE - MY350Z.COM Forums

[towlie]

1. LS
2. Wheels
3. Profit

[HIGHFIVEBETA]

youre not going to see 400 hp on that all motor

[Corbic]

Before you waste anymore time/money see how someone that knows what fuck he is doing builds a Z.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=398928

[dels1zzle]

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

You're welcome, and cost wise a supercharger is going to be the way to go, but more than likely won't yield as much as a twin turbo kit would, but the gtm and stillen superchargers(I'm not talking about stillens POS roots blower either) are making around 500-550whp if I recall correctly
GTM Performance Engineering 350Z HR SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS RELEASE - MY350Z.COM Forums

HOLY CRAP BATMAN!!! That thing sounded pretty nasty just the way i like it lol... Im gettin some very useful tips and bieng directed in the way i had envisioned

keep the ideas and advice coming... This is great stuff so far

[dels1zzle]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Before you waste anymore time/money see how someone that knows what fuck he is doing builds a Z.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=398928

Well i know what the "FUCK" im doin im just getting advice for this guy to steer him in the right direction also so i can gain knowledge... But your Cristicism is welcome too that way once im done you will be the one who sits back and shits his pants and ask me how did i get it to where it was... and still has a half ass build at home not knowin where to go

and thanks for the link

[omgRWDgoodness!]

*coughLSenginesarefcukingGHEYcough*

[dels1zzle]

yea idk bout swapping out the motor for an LS i think it would be cool to just keep it all nissan related

[deolio]

fucking LEARN TO MULTI QUOTE!!

[dels1zzle]

ooops.... slipped my mind

[dels1zzle]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Before you waste anymore time/money see how someone that knows what fuck he is doing builds a Z.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=398928

yep i got it

Originally Posted by deolio

fucking LEARN TO MULTI QUOTE!!

HAPPY I got it down now...

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by omgRWDgoodness!

*coughLSenginesarefcukingGHEYcough*

[C-unit]

Sasha@sg made 340whp NA out of a DE..so i guess you can count that as 400bhp..

[simmode1]

Supercharger + SG Motorsports Headers?

Turn yo speakers up, foo...

[dels1zzle]

SICK!!! its fuckin ridiculous i like it

[adam s]

Originally Posted by dels1zzle

Well im currently building my girls brother's Z33

*typical Z pic*


When i got the car in my hands ive done Stillen STI Ceramic headers, Custom Test Pipes, and welded em up to his Invidia Exhaust he had already got with the car... Car also has Fujita Short ram intakes...
I was wondering if there was any other bolt ons that would help with building the car all motor, cuz he really has his mind set not to go boost what so ever


i have plans on how to ima go about building it up a lil more break his 420- 450hp goal just not quite sure how much its goin to take to get it there

car has 6 spd gear box, with aluminum drive shaft, and factory optional LSD That im proly goin to re-gear
Motor is the VQ35HR
Also he wants to drop it bought an inch. What set-ups would be bang for the buck

Thanks,

Sooooooo.

You bolted on headers, and you're calling it a build?

And factory carbon fiber ds>aluminum ds.

How the FUCK are you even allowed to post on here anymore?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Supercharger + SG Motorsports Headers?
]

Headers when made where over $2,000, they no longer make them.

[dels1zzle]

Originally Posted by adam s

Sooooooo.

You bolted on headers, and you're calling it a build?

And factory carbon fiber ds>aluminum ds.

How the FUCK are you even allowed to post on here anymore?

its a daily so i just cant ripp apart untill parts get in and he makes up his mind jack ass read the whole (small) post i was being straight forward bout his plans and how i wanted advice of any sort to have in done the right way unlike alot of people who post
i only stated what i had touched within the last onth and a half and still goin
the driveshaft issue doesnt invlove me that was all previous owner and how he picked it up...