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Side Mount Inter Coolers
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say for example, you have ~270whp, but you don't want a front mount intercooler. BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT ONE! Don't ask questions. S15 SMIC is kinda beefy, so is ARC. How are they gonna hold up to that? Where could you get these intercoolers for cheap?
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Just realize that a sidemount at 270whp will get heatsoaked really easily with hard driving. Even though s15 or ARC are a little thicker, there still isnt that much surface area to dissipate the heat.
For whatever reason you want to go with a sidemount, you will see a good 20-25 hp increase with a front mount over a sidemount. A sidemount is fine but its just not efficient. As for pricing to give you an idea, I got a ARC sidemount with my front clip and sold it on ebay for 230 dollars on ebay when I went to a front mount. I included the core, all the piping and the brackets. |
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As long as the SMIC is receiving a good amount of air it will work almost as well as a FMIC. I say that because obviously with a front mount typically you have a much larger surface area that can be cooled. With the SMIC your sacraficing the size of the intercooler's surface area.
cheap intercoolers? check ebay. |
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last time i checked heat exchanger equations, surface area is multiplied!
Make sure you use the ducting for the SMIC. Most people do not use any ducting for FMIC so you may be able to get slightly closer to most FMIC performances.. just making an educated guess.
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why dont you want a front mount??
LOLOLOL jkjkjkjkj what you can do is fabricate a duct that goes to the smic just like in supra and soarers... dont really know anything about the setups on silvias.
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Yah, it'll be properly ducted.
I dont care about the powerloss though either. I dont want a front mount because I don't have to explain myself. EAT ME ![]()
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iirc the supra stock sidemount is good to 400whp. allot of dsm guys run them as an upgrade sidemount. i have never herd of any 240s/sr/rb runnig one wbut would like 2 see it.
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you could, besides ARC and s15... get a small ebay or no-brand intercooler and make your own custom piping for it... if they are properly ducted and its decently sized you will get a nice cooling...
are you avoiding front mount because of the piping? just in case it's that you can get those really thin front mounts that you dont have to cut bumper that much, get one with the inlet/outlet on the same side and use side mount intercooler piping(arc had a design like this...) Ps. forgot to say, some companies make aftermarket sidemounts for 300zx and eclipse... check those out... |
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I'm avoiding Front mount because I don't want a cooler up in the front, because I like the OE piping, and.. I don't want a front mount.
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So then why don't you just do a top mount or mount it just in front of the radiator ???
The stock side mount has miles and miles of piping........= lag |
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front mounts go down through battery trays, around front braces to in front of the radiator, all the way back around the other side, and up through in front of the fenderwell again.. F-that. And I said I wanted a fucking SIDE MOUNT. SHUTUP. haha, which is why I said don't ask questions. and the piping on stock is tiny. that wont be laggy. specially not with a t28 on a 2.4 liter. It'll be ducted!! LEGIT. custom fibreglass shrouding.
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If you read my post I said a top mount or in front of the radiator up high !!! which has way less piping then any side mount !!!! Obvsouly you haven't done your research |
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Obviously you can't fucking read because my post said I want a side mount intercooler. I have done research. This is NOT my first Ka-t. I was ka-t 4 years before you even joined Zilvia. And I used a front mount. Yes it was mounted up high. Yes I have seen scooters setup with his intercooler right behind his grill just in front of his radiator that he had spaced out to allow 2 90degree elbows to enter the IC. What don't you understand about SIDE MOUNT? I will have zero problems with lag. its a KA. Anything else? Kiss my ass. Go be old somewhere else.
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yah hschelley says run aem ems
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Ohh cool guy cuz you been on zilvia longer then me !!! Can I shake your hand ??? I simply stated a suggestion. But your just better then me and so many people since you've been on zilvia longer then me !!! Do you understand that the side mount set up will cause heat soak and also is only effiecent to a ceartin point ?? But it's your car and you know it all cuz you been on zilvia longer then me so suck it BITCH !!! ![]() |
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Considering s15's make what 260 stock. The sidemount should be sufficient for a higher comp 2.4 thats flowing the same amount of air reaching your target hp number
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Custom make it, 4" custome made to fit stock piping. stock LxHx4" core should be a decent setup if properly ducted plus you could also rig a water sprayer application on the SMIC.
WAter sprayer is cheap and easy custome making the core would be a few bucks
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This is my favorite setup, especially when you're not pumping out huge power - you get the efficiency of a small core with the cooling of a frontmount and the "I'm not turbo" look of a side mount.
I was going to go mid-mount on my S14, but ran out of funds for new IC stuff. Plus my aero looks awesome with the front mount ![]()
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