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DisEpyon · 10-03-2008, 01:53 PM

For those of you that do not know what that is, it is the clutch fork pivot ball.

anyone have an idea why this snaped?
Do you guys think it is possible to fix this with out taking the tranny off?
Is this a part i can buy anywhere such as a dealership or a auto parts store, and also is the ka pivot ball the same as the sr?

thanks, brent

Grenade180sx · 10-03-2008, 01:57 PM

mine did that as well. i just welded it back on and upgraded my clutch to a ACT 6 puck hasnt had a problem since with all the clutch kicks. ull have to pull the trans more then likely.

projectRDM · 10-03-2008, 01:58 PM

Happens a lot, that's why Nismo makes an upgrade. Too stiff a clutch will do it easily, so will abuse.

Transmission has to be pulled to replace it.

FRpilot · 10-03-2008, 02:07 PM

thats why i replaced mine with an spl one while my transmission was off.. $30 and better than taking my tranny off to replace it or having that happen while im driving.

DisEpyon · 10-03-2008, 02:10 PM

damn,
im running a act 6 puck unsprung clutch and a act streetlite flywheel.

update pic, got the pivot ball out (having ratchet wrenches is the best)

Sileighty_85 · 10-03-2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

Happens a lot, that's why Nismo makes an upgrade. Too stiff a clutch will do it easily, so will abuse.

Transmission has to be pulled to replace it.

Bingo

The Nismo Shop : West Covina Nissan : Nismo Clutch Pivot Ball

illvialuver · 10-03-2008, 02:18 PM

anytime you have to take something apart, and there is something that is easier to replace when it is out, than do it while it is out. just think ahead. that really sucks though. I just wanted to state the obvious so anyone else who reads this will know to think about those things. another thing that I think is most obvious, is the rear main seal when swapping motors, i think rule of thumb is to just replace it while the trany is off the motor, every time you take that bitch off, just replace it. its like a 10 part from nissan. but plus one to you for havin ratchet wrenches, thats smart.

DisEpyon · 10-03-2008, 02:27 PM

thanks for the input guys, ill see what i can do.

May sound dumb, but would the dealership sell the nismo version or is that a brand i have to order online. i know the dealership sells some nismo stuff, but for a specific part like this i am not sure.

Never thought to stiff of a clutch would do this, ive been driving for about 2 years now with that setup. Luckily it snaped off when i was driving on a regular road and not on the highway. i was going to homedepot and half way there it snaped. happend right when i shifted in second gear right after i crossed the intersection.

projectRDM · 10-03-2008, 05:23 PM

The dealer may not stock it but they can get it, just like any other Nissan part.

slider2828 · 10-03-2008, 05:44 PM

Yah it happened. But how many years has that pivot thing been there and suddenly you stress it out with something so stiff.... Just common knowledge of metal fatigue... Happens.

stl91ka · 10-03-2008, 06:08 PM

happened to me while i was running down a freeway on ramp, pedal went to the floor and never came back up. I had to power shift my way home...10 miles. LOL.

easy fix.

***FaLKoN240*** · 10-04-2008, 01:25 PM

I replaced mine, car feels good now.

don_bagz · 10-05-2008, 02:24 AM

ummm. this is going to be a really noob Q? but, where is that located?

***S14DB*** · 10-05-2008, 02:42 AM

Red hole between the input shaft and the fork hole.

don_bagz · 10-05-2008, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Red hole between the input shaft and the fork hole.

thanx.. i will look it up in my car, and see if mine are still okay..

***S14DB*** · 10-05-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisEpyon

damn,
im running a act 6 puck unsprung clutch and a act streetlite flywheel.

update pic, got the pivot ball out (having ratchet wrenches is the best)

Was there any grease on that?

DisEpyon · 10-05-2008, 07:20 PM

i do not remember. if not i bet thats what help caused it to snap.

update:

Got the tranny out, now just waiting on the pivot ball and rear tail seal.

then i ran into another problem. I was trying to loosen up the nut for the engine mount so the motor can have some play to swing back a bit, consequently, the nut strip. I tryed the bolt out method and that didnt work. however i came up with a new idea.

that idea is to take another nut and weld it to the pre-existing nut and try that, so far i havent got that far yet.

projectRDM · 10-05-2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisEpyon

then i ran into another problem. I was trying to loosen up the nut for the engine mount so the motor can have some play to swing back a bit, consequently, the nut strip. I tryed the bolt out method and that didnt work. however i came up with a new idea.

that idea is to take another nut and weld it to the pre-existing nut and try that, so far i havent got that far yet.

Very common, with the nut on the lower side it sees more moisture and seizes to the stud. It's also at a slight angle when you hit it with a socket so it doesn't sit flush on the nut. I cut one off a car with a sawzall not long ago that was rounded off.

don_bagz - There's no need to 'check' yours. If the clutch works, it's not broken, it's not like it's a wear item that gets worse over time, it's either working or broken in half and you have no clutch.

DisEpyon · 10-05-2008, 08:46 PM

forgot to ask, but does anyone know the part number for the tail shaft transmission seal?

i would buy from here, but just want to see if i can get it at a local dealer.
Genuine OEM Nissan Transmission Rear Seal Driveshaft

***S14DB*** · 10-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Most parts counter people look at you like you are speaking Klingon if you give them a part #. Just call them up with the Year, Model and Part Name and make them feel special that they know how to use FAST.

DisEpyon · 10-05-2008, 09:06 PM

hehe, i know what you mean.

ill try that out tomorrow, and one more thing, do you think the dealership sells the nismo clutch fork pivot ball, or do they only sell factory replacement?

***S14DB*** · 10-05-2008, 09:09 PM

They will sell it, probably won't have it in stock. Probably won't have the stock part in stock ether.

10-03-2008, 01:53 PM	#1
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WTH Caused this? pic inside!!! For those of you that do not know what that is, it is the clutch fork pivot ball. anyone have an idea why this snaped? Do you guys think it is possible to fix this with out taking the tranny off? Is this a part i can buy anywhere such as a dealership or a auto parts store, and also is the ka pivot ball the same as the sr? thanks, brent

10-03-2008, 01:58 PM	#3
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Happens a lot, that's why Nismo makes an upgrade. Too stiff a clutch will do it easily, so will abuse. Transmission has to be pulled to replace it. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

10-03-2008, 05:23 PM	#9
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	The dealer may not stock it but they can get it, just like any other Nissan part. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

10-03-2008, 05:44 PM	#10
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 6,040 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Yah it happened. But how many years has that pivot thing been there and suddenly you stress it out with something so stiff.... Just common knowledge of metal fatigue... Happens. __________________ Turn and Burn!

10-04-2008, 01:25 PM	#12
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I replaced mine, car feels good now. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

10-03-2008, 01:57 PM	#2
Grenade180sx Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 909/951 Age: 37 Posts: 2,457 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	mine did that as well. i just welded it back on and upgraded my clutch to a ACT 6 puck hasnt had a problem since with all the clutch kicks. ull have to pull the trans more then likely.

10-03-2008, 02:10 PM	#5
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn, im running a act 6 puck unsprung clutch and a act streetlite flywheel. update pic, got the pivot ball out (having ratchet wrenches is the best)

10-03-2008, 02:18 PM	#7
illvialuver Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: M-A-R-S... MARS BITCHES Age: 42 Posts: 5,065 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	anytime you have to take something apart, and there is something that is easier to replace when it is out, than do it while it is out. just think ahead. that really sucks though. I just wanted to state the obvious so anyone else who reads this will know to think about those things. another thing that I think is most obvious, is the rear main seal when swapping motors, i think rule of thumb is to just replace it while the trany is off the motor, every time you take that bitch off, just replace it. its like a 10 part from nissan. but plus one to you for havin ratchet wrenches, thats smart.

10-03-2008, 02:27 PM	#8
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the input guys, ill see what i can do. May sound dumb, but would the dealership sell the nismo version or is that a brand i have to order online. i know the dealership sells some nismo stuff, but for a specific part like this i am not sure. Never thought to stiff of a clutch would do this, ive been driving for about 2 years now with that setup. Luckily it snaped off when i was driving on a regular road and not on the highway. i was going to homedepot and half way there it snaped. happend right when i shifted in second gear right after i crossed the intersection.

10-03-2008, 06:08 PM	#11
stl91ka Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	happened to me while i was running down a freeway on ramp, pedal went to the floor and never came back up. I had to power shift my way home...10 miles. LOL. easy fix.

10-05-2008, 02:24 AM	#13
don_bagz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colton in SanBernardoo (socal) Age: 39 Posts: 1,532 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	ummm. this is going to be a really noob Q? but, where is that located?

10-05-2008, 02:42 AM	#14
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Red hole between the input shaft and the fork hole. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-05-2008, 07:20 PM	#17
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i do not remember. if not i bet thats what help caused it to snap. update: Got the tranny out, now just waiting on the pivot ball and rear tail seal. then i ran into another problem. I was trying to loosen up the nut for the engine mount so the motor can have some play to swing back a bit, consequently, the nut strip. I tryed the bolt out method and that didnt work. however i came up with a new idea. that idea is to take another nut and weld it to the pre-existing nut and try that, so far i havent got that far yet.

10-05-2008, 08:46 PM	#19
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	forgot to ask, but does anyone know the part number for the tail shaft transmission seal? i would buy from here, but just want to see if i can get it at a local dealer. Genuine OEM Nissan Transmission Rear Seal Driveshaft

10-05-2008, 08:51 PM	#20
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Most parts counter people look at you like you are speaking Klingon if you give them a part #. Just call them up with the Year, Model and Part Name and make them feel special that they know how to use FAST. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-05-2008, 09:06 PM	#21
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hehe, i know what you mean. ill try that out tomorrow, and one more thing, do you think the dealership sells the nismo clutch fork pivot ball, or do they only sell factory replacement?

10-05-2008, 09:09 PM	#22
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	They will sell it, probably won't have it in stock. Probably won't have the stock part in stock ether. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact