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kenshinS14sks · 09-03-2010, 05:46 PM

Just got off the phone with Greddy . . . long story short. The Greddy turbo kit for the KA24de was NEVER Carb legal!!! EVER!!!!! askl;dfjasl;dkfjsl;dakf

kenshinS14sks · 09-03-2010, 05:47 PM

only for the s2k. . . was i the only one that was in the dark about this??? From what I knew everyone and their moms was talking about how KA-T was carb legal this and that

waxball88 · 09-03-2010, 05:57 PM

Just because you live in Cali...doesnt mean the other 50 states have the same laws. Lol

cc4usmc · 09-03-2010, 06:01 PM

Old news

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greenzenki86 · 09-03-2010, 06:14 PM

yeah this is pretty old dude

Om1kron · 09-03-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kenshinS14sks

after going through a very bad ordeal with a ref ticket and an sr20 and court orders, any work i do on a car will be reffed . . . so no it won't pass the ref

I'm glad the california legal system is so in the shitter these days.

My ref ticket was a letter saying, here's you fine, if you want to contest this in court you need to pass the state ref tests and wait until december to find out if we even have room for you in the court.

otherwise pay this fee and be done with it.

yellowxhoodie · 09-03-2010, 06:20 PM

wait...whats carb legal?

kenshinS14sks · 09-03-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Om1kron

I'm glad the california legal system is so in the shitter these days.

My ref ticket was a letter saying, here's you fine, if you want to contest this in court you need to pass the state ref tests and wait until december to find out if we even have room for you in the court.

otherwise pay this fee and be done with it.

when'd you get your tic? that was the situation with all of my friends and shop guys but for whatever reason my ref ticket was followed by a "MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCE" letter which proceeded to the judge saying "you can't drive an illegal car on the road" and gave me the option to forfeit the car, lose my license or go get it reffed. . .

i guess i could've sold the car out of state and bought it back. . . but i got scurred and stock ka-ed the car. . . so seriously. . . there's like no legal turbo options for the ka????

greenzenki86 · 09-03-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kenshinS14sks

when'd you get your tic? that was the situation with all of my friends and shop guys but for whatever reason my ref ticket was followed by a "MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCE" letter which proceeded to the judge saying "you can't drive an illegal car on the road" and gave me the option to forfeit the car, lose my license or go get it reffed. . .

i guess i could've sold the car out of state and bought it back. . . but i got scurred and stock ka-ed the car. . . so seriously. . . there's like no legal turbo options for the ka????

no legal kit for the KA, im sure it can be done if greddy or someone did all the R&D, plus $$$ to make it "environmental friendly"....so basically a short answer is no....wont see it happening anytimes soon, plus that kit is like at least like 7 years old now, if they havent done it by now........then.......you know where im goin with that lol....

5pecialist · 09-03-2010, 06:42 PM

Move to KY. Anything goes out here.

Om1kron · 09-03-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kenshinS14sks

when'd you get your tic? that was the situation with all of my friends and shop guys but for whatever reason my ref ticket was followed by a "MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCE" letter which proceeded to the judge saying "you can't drive an illegal car on the road" and gave me the option to forfeit the car, lose my license or go get it reffed. . .

i guess i could've sold the car out of state and bought it back. . . but i got scurred and stock ka-ed the car. . . so seriously. . . there's like no legal turbo options for the ka????

you live in anaheim/orange so they're gay. I live in overpopulated LA. Mine said mandatory court appearance too and then they sent me that bs letter like "ah no court appearance necessary sign up online handle the ticket and be done with it."

I LUV MY S13 · 09-03-2010, 06:54 PM

Doesnt it make sense that turbocharging a non-turbo car would be illegal...?

Laernu · 09-03-2010, 06:57 PM

man i feel bad for you guys in cali, here we just get a rejected sticker and thats it only thing that can really happen is you get a 130 dollar ticket if the cop wants to be a real dick about it...

drift freaq · 09-03-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by greenzenki86

no legal kit for the KA, im sure it can be done if greddy or someone did all the R&D, plus $$$ to make it "environmental friendly"....so basically a short answer is no....wont see it happening anytimes soon, plus that kit is like at least like 7 years old now, if they havent done it by now........then.......you know where im goin with that lol....

It was not the fact that the kit was not green or environmentally friendly. In fact it would have smogged. The problem was the California Air Resources Board aka C.A.R.B wanted a 10k a year fee from Greddy to get the official sticker on the kit. Greddy figured they could not sell enough of the kits to warrant that kind of cash outlay so they did not bother.

Now on the S2K it was a no brainer . New car, people that buy it have cash to spend might want to turbo it and get more power.

s14fbs · 09-03-2010, 07:03 PM

The reason I will never move up north /or west shits stupid as fuck emissions bullshit ect

Down soulth nobody gives a fuck about that stupid shit
so glad I have a ka-t barly any exaust no cats not egr ride out all day

oni.dori · 09-03-2010, 07:08 PM

From what I understood, it was only the kit for the S14 KA that every recieved a CARB EO, not any dual-cam KA. So, to TECHNICALLY get your S13 a legal turbo, you would have to equip it with an S14 KA, get it certified by a REF, THEN you could put the Greddy turbo on it legally.

!Zar! · 09-03-2010, 07:24 PM

Greddy NEVER made a carb legal kit for any 240. the kit was carb pending. But never carb approved.

This information is old as dirt. Probably known before s15's even existed.

singlecamslam · 09-03-2010, 08:27 PM

nothing in california is legal for a car. Not even cars are legal.

97nismo · 09-03-2010, 08:29 PM

move to south carolina, you can register anything with wheels

Touge Noob S13 · 09-03-2010, 08:35 PM

I rather deal with California laws than move to the south.

Backintoans13 · 09-03-2010, 10:03 PM

New Mexico ftmfw!! Woot! lol We dont care bout any of that shit either. I love visiting Cali and would love to move there if money allowed me too but since it dont.....i dont ever have to worry bout all that smog bull shit!

sleeper108 · 09-03-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Backintoans13

New Mexico ftmfw!! Woot! lol We dont care bout any of that shit either. I love visiting Cali and would love to move there if money allowed me too but since it dont.....i dont ever have to worry bout all that smog bull shit!

+1!!

In Rio Rancho, NM they dont even have to worry about emissions lol

510-SR20DET · 09-03-2010, 11:59 PM

Yeah but perfect temp, no snow, sun shine and all the fine woman are in cali. Ill stay in cali.

510n · 09-03-2010, 11:59 PM

Has any one actually check the ARB website? No even 5 min and I found this:http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-271.pdf.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 09-04-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Greddy NEVER made a carb legal kit for any 240. the kit was carb pending. But never carb approved.

This information is old as dirt. Probably known before s15's even existed.

THIS!!! It was carb pending but they never followed thru with it and they never sold enough to follow thru with it.

i♥boobies! · 09-04-2010, 12:48 AM

i have a solution for this!!!
just pay the extra money to get it smogged under the table
that easy

and if the cops pull you over and check under your hood your fucked!!
thats its end of story
we cant do anything about it
wanna change the emissions laws!?
then good luck becoming governor!

i♥boobies! · 09-04-2010, 12:50 AM

oh and ANY modification to a car is illegal!

i asked a cop once lol

Sleepy_Steve · 09-04-2010, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by i♥boobies!

oh and ANY modification to a car is illegal!

i asked a cop once lol

Maybe, but a cops job is to enforce the law, not to know the law. That task falls to people in legal departments and court rooms.

I'd love to see a compiled list of all the states that are 'enthusiast friendly' (dont do emissions / let you tag anything with wheels) but I'm too lazy to make it or look real hard to find it. For now at least I'll settle for being happy that MD got rid of the rollers at emissions stations so its only idle tests for OBD1 cars from here on out.

i♥boobies! · 09-04-2010, 01:41 AM

[quote=Sleepy_Steve;3622126]Maybe, but a cops job is to enforce the law, not to know the law. That task falls to people in legal departments and court rooms.

yeah i know
i just wanted to put that out there lol

greenzenki86 · 09-04-2010, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

It was not the fact that the kit was not green or environmentally friendly. In fact it would have smogged. The problem was the California Air Resources Board aka C.A.R.B wanted a 10k a year fee from Greddy to get the official sticker on the kit. Greddy figured they could not sell enough of the kits to warrant that kind of cash outlay so they did not bother.

Now on the S2K it was a no brainer . New car, people that buy it have cash to spend might want to turbo it and get more power.

wow thanks for the facts, I didnt know that. thats pretty crazy info, that kit (msrp 3600) was pricey too especially for not even having an intercooler as part of the kit (it had to be purchased seperate and was like 8 or $900)...yeah s2ks are a different market, I one had a 00 AP1 and mast parts are expensive for those platforms.

09-03-2010, 05:46 PM	#1
kenshinS14sks Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: brea, ca Age: 44 Posts: 694 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	KA Turbo NOT LEGAL in 50 states Just got off the phone with Greddy . . . long story short. The Greddy turbo kit for the KA24de was NEVER Carb legal!!! EVER!!!!! askl;dfjasl;dkfjsl;dakf

09-03-2010, 06:14 PM	#5
greenzenki86 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Where the palm trees grow Age: 38 Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	yeah this is pretty old dude __________________ Who cares if you have 800hp......

09-03-2010, 06:54 PM	#12
I LUV MY S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwalk, Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 3,349 Trader Rating: (35) Rides Gallery: I LUV MY S13 Feedback Score: 35 reviews	Doesnt it make sense that turbocharging a non-turbo car would be illegal...? __________________ -Jorge

09-03-2010, 07:03 PM	#15
s14fbs Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: candy mountain Age: 35 Posts: 1,543 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	The reason I will never move up north /or west shits stupid as fuck emissions bullshit ect Down soulth nobody gives a fuck about that stupid shit so glad I have a ka-t barly any exaust no cats not egr ride out all day __________________ http://strictlycoolstuff.tumblr.com/

09-03-2010, 07:24 PM	#17
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Greddy NEVER made a carb legal kit for any 240. the kit was carb pending. But never carb approved. This information is old as dirt. Probably known before s15's even existed. __________________

09-03-2010, 05:47 PM	#2
kenshinS14sks Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: brea, ca Age: 44 Posts: 694 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	only for the s2k. . . was i the only one that was in the dark about this??? From what I knew everyone and their moms was talking about how KA-T was carb legal this and that

09-03-2010, 05:57 PM	#3
waxball88 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gainesville Posts: 1,061 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Just because you live in Cali...doesnt mean the other 50 states have the same laws. Lol

09-03-2010, 06:20 PM	#7
yellowxhoodie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,092 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	wait...whats carb legal?

09-03-2010, 06:42 PM	#10
5pecialist Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (at rock bottom) Posts: 442 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Move to KY. Anything goes out here.

09-03-2010, 06:57 PM	#13
Laernu Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NJ Age: 34 Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	man i feel bad for you guys in cali, here we just get a rejected sticker and thats it only thing that can really happen is you get a 130 dollar ticket if the cop wants to be a real dick about it...

09-03-2010, 07:08 PM	#16
oni.dori Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oxnard, California Age: 43 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	From what I understood, it was only the kit for the S14 KA that every recieved a CARB EO, not any dual-cam KA. So, to TECHNICALLY get your S13 a legal turbo, you would have to equip it with an S14 KA, get it certified by a REF, THEN you could put the Greddy turbo on it legally.

09-03-2010, 08:27 PM	#18
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	nothing in california is legal for a car. Not even cars are legal. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

09-03-2010, 08:29 PM	#19
97nismo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Asheville Posts: 2,133 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	move to south carolina, you can register anything with wheels

09-03-2010, 10:03 PM	#21
Backintoans13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Cruces, NM Age: 42 Posts: 620 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	New Mexico ftmfw!! Woot! lol We dont care bout any of that shit either. I love visiting Cali and would love to move there if money allowed me too but since it dont.....i dont ever have to worry bout all that smog bull shit!

09-03-2010, 11:59 PM	#23
510-SR20DET Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Aye Bay Bay Posts: 418 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Yeah but perfect temp, no snow, sun shine and all the fine woman are in cali. Ill stay in cali. __________________ Originally Posted by EDaciouSX You should fix your opor* grammar.*

09-03-2010, 11:59 PM	#24
510n Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Loma Linda Age: 38 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Has any one actually check the ARB website? No even 5 min and I found this:http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-271.pdf.

09-04-2010, 12:48 AM	#26
i♥boobies! Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: moreno vally, socal Age: 33 Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i have a solution for this!!! just pay the extra money to get it smogged under the table that easy and if the cops pull you over and check under your hood your fucked!! thats its end of story we cant do anything about it wanna change the emissions laws!? then good luck becoming governor!

09-04-2010, 12:50 AM	#27
i♥boobies! Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: moreno vally, socal Age: 33 Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	oh and ANY modification to a car is illegal! i asked a cop once lol

09-04-2010, 01:41 AM	#29
i♥boobies! Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: moreno vally, socal Age: 33 Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	[quote=Sleepy_Steve;3622126]Maybe, but a cops job is to enforce the law, not to know the law. That task falls to people in legal departments and court rooms. yeah i know i just wanted to put that out there lol