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camaro379ss · 05-17-2011, 08:24 AM

That looks good. There was a swapped fd in the st louis area that I saw once that was also up for sale a month or so ago that was 2jz swapped. It was a beautiful car.

PshNHrd · 05-17-2011, 08:29 AM

If I happen to purchased in the future it would have to be completely stock. I might just keep it stock. I want it to be as reliable as possible. The only issue with buying an S13 and droppings $8k- $10k is if it gets stolen or totaled then I wont get back as much as I put in to it from insurance.

camaro379ss · 05-17-2011, 08:32 AM

Thats definitely something to keep in mind for sure. Your best bet there would be to buy it back and try and salavge as much as you can from it then.

PshNHrd · 05-17-2011, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titangts

buy a swapped s13, good coils, and amazing tires, redo all the suspension. then alignment.

or... do what i did

What you did is Tier 1 status. That is badass my friend. Unfortunately I can't afford to do such an expensive swap

05-17-2011, 08:59 AM

why anyone would install that fucking front-heavy toyota motor in that piece of shit mazda is beyond me.

Corbic · 05-17-2011, 09:12 AM

With gas at $4 a gallon, it's something to consider.

My FC rarely saw over 17mpg, so changing over to 24mpg in my SR S13 is WOW.

You can't "save up" to buy an FD, you either can afford it, or you can't. It like a Ferrari in that sense.

If it's your only car you need to realize that you'll pay twice as much for gas, 3x as much for insurance and parts like door handles, dashes and trim are just about nonexistent and if you do fine them, your throwing down Bennies, not lunch money.

There are only like 13,000 FDs out there and if it was a piston car, I'm sure you'd see pricing in line with Supra MK4s. The high cost of Rotary ownership drives prices down.

A few years with an FD and you'll be saying "I could have bought a Supra or NSX".

A modified S13/4 vs a Stock FD is a stupid comparison. Some people enjoy modifying a car, and a 20 year old FD is going to need THOUSANDS in maintenance to get you a car running like any quality 7k S-chasis.

Corbic · 05-17-2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

why anyone would install that fucking front-heavy toyota motor in that piece of shit mazda is beyond me.

I like the FD, but I agree. JZ is a stupid engine choice. If you want piston, try a turbo F20C, SR or 4G63.

camaro379ss · 05-17-2011, 09:52 AM

I wouldnt buy it myself but its something thats just cool to see done once. I am too much of a rotary fan to do that. I have seen an sr on the rx7 forums and it looks good. But like I said earlier if you are gonna do a swap triple rotor is the way to go with an fd.

!Zar! · 05-17-2011, 12:09 PM

Blah blah blah

ILoveMyRHS13 · 05-17-2011, 12:11 PM

^ Do what he did. Replace the worst part about the FD.

lflkajfj12123 · 05-17-2011, 04:11 PM

see my first post

OBEEWON · 05-17-2011, 04:30 PM

FD one of the best chassis' ever.

XxHybridx · 05-18-2011, 12:49 AM

is there any way to make FDs reliable?

or is just the same as ANY car...just take care of it.
is rotary really THAT bad? people make it seem like having one for a daily is a bad idea.

camaro379ss · 05-18-2011, 06:12 AM

It makes a great daily driver as long as you dont beat on it everyday just like any other car. Every car has its weakest points.

Corbic · 05-18-2011, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxHybridx

is there any way to make FDs reliable?

or is just the same as ANY car...just take care of it.
is rotary really THAT bad? people make it seem like having one for a daily is a bad idea.

There is a healthy list of reliability mods.

Replace water pump and all coolant and rubber hosing. Upgrade radiator. Upgrade FMIC.
Replace entire exhaust (cat delete)
It's STRONGLY advisable to now get a tune and ensure a proper (ie rich) air/fuel mix.
Fuel pump.

I've heard of people running into lean
issues with BPU. You can't treat these engines like SRs or 4Gs.

Corbic · 05-18-2011, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro379ss

It makes a great daily driver as long as you dont beat on it everyday just like any other car. Every car has its weakest points.

Define "good daily". They are cramped, fuel chugging and harsh ridding. Also "beat on"? You need to get on it frequently to prevent carbon build up.

SlideOrDie831 · 05-18-2011, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxHybridx

is there any way to make FDs reliable?

or is just the same as ANY car...just take care of it.
is rotary really THAT bad? people make it seem like having one for a daily is a bad idea.

ditch the factory radiator and intercooler.

13B's require a little bit more love and when they are "properly" maintained it won't let you down.

i honestly think 13B,and 13BT is better then the 13BT-REW.

camaro379ss · 05-18-2011, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic

Define "good daily". They are cramped, fuel chugging and harsh ridding. Also "beat on"? You need to get on it frequently to prevent carbon build up.

Every sports car is cramped big deal. Every sports car is fuel chugging. Every sports car is harsh riding. THATS what makes sports cars sports cars.

Ok 7,8,9k etc rpm shifts.....not necessary for daily driving.

Quick start/shut offs prevent them from flooding yes. And normal driving will prevent carbon build up.

MidwestMyriad · 05-18-2011, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

buy the rx7

Then pull the engine, buy some parts, then realize you have no clue about rotaries and sell the lot for a loss of profits.

dudermagee · 05-18-2011, 08:07 AM

Surprised that no one pointed out that the rotary motor puts out as much torque as a Honda motor.

camaro379ss · 05-18-2011, 08:08 AM

Rotary motors are higher reving hp motors not torque.

The tt version still put out around 200ft lbs I believe which isnt too bad for the 250ish hp mark of a rotary.

dudermagee · 05-18-2011, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro379ss

Rotary motors are high reving hp motors not torque.

Just like a honda motor

camaro379ss · 05-18-2011, 08:12 AM

true but at least this is rwd and handles much better.

namawon · 05-18-2011, 08:18 AM

Just buy a 2nd gen. Yah, rotarys are reliable, if you dont drive like a idiot and have a proper tune.

dudermagee · 05-18-2011, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro379ss

true but at least this is rwd and handles much better.

off topic, but I'd rather have an s2k

MaxGTST · 05-18-2011, 08:48 AM

Rotary needs water/meth injection to be reliable..

Best way to make any car like an FD is to do like me..

Take your old car

Sell it and then buy this

It's the easiest way, trust me.. then cry cause you bought a bridgeported, T78 powered rotary

titangts · 05-18-2011, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PshNHrd

What you did is Tier 1 status. That is badass my friend. Unfortunately I can't afford to do such an expensive swap

yes, i have invested a ton of money to do this swap. I will say this, its true when they say, add up what you think it will cost to do what you want to, and double it. in my case, triple it! It costs to be a boss.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

why anyone would install that fucking front-heavy toyota motor in that piece of shit mazda is beyond me.

LOL. yeah, why would anyone want to install one of the best designed motors ever, in one of the best chassis completely perplexes me too!

camaro379ss · 05-18-2011, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudermagee

off topic, but I'd rather have an s2k

Oh yea totally forgot about that lol...I was thinking si's and crap like that.

SlideOrDie831 · 05-18-2011, 10:47 AM

F20C and F22C aren't known for torque neither.

MaxGTST · 05-18-2011, 10:53 AM

Torque is not that badd on a modded rotary

05-17-2011, 08:24 AM	#31
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	That looks good. There was a swapped fd in the st louis area that I saw once that was also up for sale a month or so ago that was 2jz swapped. It was a beautiful car. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

05-17-2011, 08:32 AM	#33
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Thats definitely something to keep in mind for sure. Your best bet there would be to buy it back and try and salavge as much as you can from it then. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

05-17-2011, 09:52 AM	#38
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I wouldnt buy it myself but its something thats just cool to see done once. I am too much of a rotary fan to do that. I have seen an sr on the rx7 forums and it looks good. But like I said earlier if you are gonna do a swap triple rotor is the way to go with an fd. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

05-17-2011, 12:09 PM	#39
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Blah blah blah __________________

05-17-2011, 04:30 PM	#42
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	FD one of the best chassis' ever. __________________

05-17-2011, 08:29 AM	#32
PshNHrd Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If I happen to purchased in the future it would have to be completely stock. I might just keep it stock. I want it to be as reliable as possible. The only issue with buying an S13 and droppings $8k- $10k is if it gets stolen or totaled then I wont get back as much as I put in to it from insurance.

05-17-2011, 08:59 AM	#35
ixfxi Guest Posts: n/a	why anyone would install that fucking front-heavy toyota motor in that piece of shit mazda is beyond me.

05-17-2011, 09:12 AM	#36
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 41 Posts: 8,226 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	With gas at $4 a gallon, it's something to consider. My FC rarely saw over 17mpg, so changing over to 24mpg in my SR S13 is WOW. You can't "save up" to buy an FD, you either can afford it, or you can't. It like a Ferrari in that sense. If it's your only car you need to realize that you'll pay twice as much for gas, 3x as much for insurance and parts like door handles, dashes and trim are just about nonexistent and if you do fine them, your throwing down Bennies, not lunch money. There are only like 13,000 FDs out there and if it was a piston car, I'm sure you'd see pricing in line with Supra MK4s. The high cost of Rotary ownership drives prices down. A few years with an FD and you'll be saying "I could have bought a Supra or NSX". A modified S13/4 vs a Stock FD is a stupid comparison. Some people enjoy modifying a car, and a 20 year old FD is going to need THOUSANDS in maintenance to get you a car running like any quality 7k S-chasis.

05-17-2011, 04:11 PM	#41
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,483 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	see my first post

05-18-2011, 12:49 AM	#43
XxHybridx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 301 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	is there any way to make FDs reliable? or is just the same as ANY car...just take care of it. is rotary really THAT bad? people make it seem like having one for a daily is a bad idea.

05-18-2011, 06:12 AM	#44
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	It makes a great daily driver as long as you dont beat on it everyday just like any other car. Every car has its weakest points. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

05-18-2011, 08:08 AM	#51
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Rotary motors are higher reving hp motors not torque. The tt version still put out around 200ft lbs I believe which isnt too bad for the 250ish hp mark of a rotary. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

05-18-2011, 08:12 AM	#53
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	true but at least this is rwd and handles much better. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

05-18-2011, 08:18 AM	#54
namawon Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Psl, Florida Age: 33 Posts: 161 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just buy a 2nd gen. Yah, rotarys are reliable, if you dont drive like a idiot and have a proper tune. __________________ I'd walk a thousand miles with a broken spine before i'd change my mind.

05-18-2011, 08:48 AM	#56
MaxGTST Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 35 Posts: 70 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Rotary needs water/meth injection to be reliable.. Best way to make any car like an FD is to do like me.. Take your old car Sell it and then buy this It's the easiest way, trust me.. then cry cause you bought a bridgeported, T78 powered rotary

05-18-2011, 10:47 AM	#59
SlideOrDie831 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: 831 Cali/Fort Bragg Age: 36 Posts: 250 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	F20C and F22C aren't known for torque neither.

05-18-2011, 10:53 AM	#60
MaxGTST Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 35 Posts: 70 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Torque is not that badd on a modded rotary