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D.Adams · 10-11-2012, 08:05 PM

Fuck em all .. If we could bring people back from the dead I would vote for Hitler.

But on a serious note I vote for Ted Nugent ..

EDacIouSX · 10-11-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Good to see Paul Ryan just straight up LYING about foreign policy.

how so? Please provide citations too. Don't want someone's opinion but facts...

I feel like Biden is being freaken rude too.

gbaby2089 · 10-11-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

how so? Please provide citations too. Don't want someone's opinion but facts...

I feel like Biden is being freaken rude too.

On what topics? They hopped on many, many points, I don't want to spend time clarifying stuff that you don't care about or have a deep understanding of.

EDacIouSX · 10-11-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

On what topics? They hopped on many, many points, I don't want to spend time clarifying stuff that you don't care about or have a deep understanding of.

Hey fuck you man, can't you read the quote? You're the one that made a claim and all I'm asking is for you to clarify it asshole.

FOREIGN POLICY you retard.

gbaby2089 · 10-11-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

Hey fuck you man, can't you read the quote? You're the one that made a claim and all I'm asking is for you to clarify it asshole.

FOREIGN POLICY you retard.

Do you realize how broad a subject that is?

US-Russian relations
US-Israeli relations
Libyan situation
Syria/Assad
Afghanistan
Iranian nuclear situation

Those are each huge subjects.

EDacIouSX · 10-11-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Good to see Paul Ryan just straight up LYING about foreign policy.

Do you realize how broad that statement is?

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

US-Russian relations
US-Israeli relations
Libyan situation
Syria/Assad
Afghanistan
Iranian nuclear situation

"Those are each huge subjects."

Since you don't know what the hell YOU are talking about, why don't we start off with Iran.

gbaby2089 · 10-11-2012, 09:16 PM

I shall get back to you tomorrow. Just posting this to let you know I'm not ignoring you.

DoobieS13 · 10-11-2012, 09:19 PM

Ryan defff had to debate against TWO people tonight lol wow that lady was biased as FUCCCCCCCCC. lol But i did only watch the last 20 mins, the O's had more oif my attention haha

LEG1T · 10-11-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by onehundredoctane

Anyone taking bets on tonights VP debate?

Paul Ryan by a landslide, Biden with foot in mouth syndrome.

The liberal moderator will interupt Paul Ryan in an effort to get him off subject and not finish whatever he was saying that was 100x more relevant than whatever spews out of DrUncle Bidens mouth.

Wouldn't call it a landslide, but according to some polls you sir are correct...Although personally I felt like Biden dominated and held his own well...

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Originally Posted by S14DB

Obama went to her wedding in the 90's! It's a fix!

After last weeks "Anything to win" change in the campaign it's going to be an interesting debate.

That is was, love the back and forth call outs...Moderator was pretty damn aggressive too!!

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Originally Posted by Corbic

I honestly think the whole Biden "stupidity" thing is a scam. I can't help but question that all his blunders and stupid comments are actually well planed as some sort of "Take the heat off Obama" strategy.

He is set up to be the perfect wing man.

Hell of a wing man indeed, although he is as authentic and real as a politician gets...I wouldn't call him a scam though..

EDacIouSX · 10-11-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LEG1T

Wouldn't call it a landslide, but according to some polls you sir are correct...Although personally I felt like Biden dominated and held his own well...

I don't think Biden dominated but he did better sort of...

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Originally Posted by LEG1T

That is was, love the back and forth call outs...Moderator was pretty damn aggressive too!!

More so aggressive towards one person, honestly I would have preferred if she kept quiet more.

1 88 U · 10-12-2012, 12:58 AM

Brian · 10-12-2012, 10:36 AM

^^^^
Sadly, I think a lot of people are going to vote simply based on stupid internet pictures and gifs and t-shirt/sticker campaigns like that.

remember that huge sales tactic with those "hope" and "change" shirts and stickers and whatnot? So many people fell for it. lol

**Phlip** · 10-12-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

how so? Please provide citations too. Don't want someone's opinion but facts...

Ryan lied about a lot of things, foreign policy was but one of them.

A select few:

1 – “it took the president two weeks to acknowledge Libya as a terrorist attack”
truth – it was acknowledged as such the very next day
2 – “the administration is blocking us every step of the way” in reference to Iran sanctions
truth – quite the opposite, to the point where the Israeli praises the administration and the steps they have taken to stop Iran.
3 – “the VP was in charge of $90bil in green pork to contributors”
truth – the guy overseeing him in this was Herb Allison. Herb should be familiar to conservatives as the finance chair for McCain’s failed attempt at becoming president in 2008. No such “pork” was found.
4 – “Obamacare takes 716bil from medicare to spend on Obamacare”
truth – most of that money is taken from overpayments to insurance companies, which in turn cuts rampant fraud, waste, and abuse of the system for profit.
5 – “8 of 10 businesses file their taxes as individuals, not as corporations”
truth – in context, less than half the people who would be affected by the expiring tax cuts get their income as a small business.
6 – “the 5 billion dollar plan has been discredited”
truth – the studies he cites actually PROVE, not discredit the claim

A lot of these are the same old shit, though... If you repeat a lie enough, eventually it will grow legs and SOMEONE will accept it as the truth.

gbaby2089 · 10-12-2012, 11:56 AM

He also made the Iranian nuclear program seem much further along than it really is. Even is Iran has the ability to enrich plutonium/uranium/whatever right now, look at how long it has taken North Korea to build a missile that wouldn't go into the sea less than 100 miles off the coast.

With the sanctions and support of most of the globe against the Iranian regime, it'll be a LONNNGGGG time.

And lets not forget that where the Obama admin. has taken steps to work with the Russians, Mitt has said that he considered Russia our number one foe.

Highway Riding · 10-12-2012, 12:03 PM

Biden lied about not voting for 2 wars on a cc
WH walks back biden tax comments (basically lied)
In 1982, Biden voted for a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade.
In 1986, Jeannie Rosoff, a top official of Planned Parenthood, said, “Joe Biden moans a lot and then usually votes against us.”

onehundredoctane · 10-12-2012, 12:45 PM

Love the memes floating around after the debates, I'll admit Drunk Uncle had his funny moments, but instead of sticking his foot in his mouth he just laughed the entire time and interupted Ryan over and over.

gbaby2089 · 10-12-2012, 01:17 PM

I don't understand why people pants are in a bunch for Biden interrupting Paul Ryan.

Did not a single one of you see Mitt interrupting Obama and the moderator on a constant basis?

Chrischeezer · 10-12-2012, 01:29 PM

[/QUOTE]

, I though he kicked ass.
paul ryan seemed so fake, dodged a few questions.

**Phlip** · 10-12-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

I don't understand why people pants are in a bunch for Biden interrupting Paul Ryan.

Did not a single one of you see Mitt interrupting Obama and the moderator on a constant basis?

When Mitt did it, he was being “assertive,” and showing leadership qualities by taking control of the situation. It was totally okay.

When Biden does it, he is being a rude asshole and might have been drunk.

If you do not respect the double standard, you are a liberal, and that is totally a bad word.

Speaking of last week...

To which Romney:

***S14DB*** · 10-13-2012, 06:34 AM

So, a small business is based on how many employees you have and not how much you make?

Quote:

The legal definition of "small" varies by country and by industry. In the United States the Small Business Administration establishes small business size standards on an industry-by-industry basis, but generally specifies a small business as having fewer than 500 employees for manufacturing businesses and less than $7 million in annual receipts for most non manufacturing businesses. The definition can vary by circumstance dash; for example, a small business having fewer than 25 full-time equivalent employees with average annual wages below $50,000 qualifies for a tax credit under the health care reform bill Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Small business - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What's all this talk of the top 3% off small businesses making over $100m a year?

90white240 · 10-13-2012, 12:53 PM

Don't trust politicians, there all greedy assholes.

gbaby2089 · 10-13-2012, 02:46 PM

Am I the only person who finds it difficult to accept the political opinion of someone who can't comprehend there/their/they're?

They're all seeking something, to say they're greedy is silly. Some simply want power, some want approval, some may be in it for $$$ reasons (although getting into politics for the money is a bit silly), etc. Most successful politicians were faced with some sort of difficulty early in life that shaped them forever.

**Phlip** · 10-13-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Am I the only person who finds it difficult to accept the political opinion of someone who can't comprehend there/their/they're?

They're all seeking something, to say they're greedy is silly. Some simply want power, some want approval, some may be in it for $$$ reasons (although getting into politics for the money is a bit silly), etc. Most successful politicians were faced with some sort of difficulty early in life that shaped them forever.

Oh, but the money is there too...
A pension more handsome than any of us will earn and sometimes a lifetime salary as well is worth telling/supporting a couple hundred lies.
Self-preservation is among the first human instincts, and setting up your own future for beyond what is foreseeable is more than adequate for that description.
All of this goes not to mention the EXTRA cash one stands to make on appearance fees and book deals.

gbaby2089 · 10-13-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

Oh, but the money is there too...
A pension more handsome than any of us will earn and sometimes a lifetime salary as well is worth telling/supporting a couple hundred lies.
Self-preservation is among the first human instincts, and setting up your own future for beyond what is foreseeable is more than adequate for that description.
All of this goes not to mention the EXTRA cash one stands to make on appearance fees and book deals.

To say that's the only reason is silly though. The likelihood of becoming a successful politician is extremely unlikely, so to make money being a politician, you do have to be quite good.

**Phlip** · 10-13-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

To say that's the only reason is silly though. The likelihood of becoming a successful politician is extremely unlikely, so to make money being a politician, you do have to be quite good.

Quick, without Google, name ONE "successful" politician whose guts you hate, please include no fewer than four good reasons not related to him acting on his own accord instead of any of his constituents as reasoning why he deserves to be buttraped and eaten by a pack of wild jackals.

gbaby2089 · 10-13-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

Quick, without Google, name ONE "successful" politician whose guts you hate, please include no fewer than four good reasons not related to him acting on his own accord instead of any of his constituents as reasoning why he deserves to be buttraped and eaten by a pack of wild jackals.

I don't hate any politicians, not even George Dubya.

Brian · 10-13-2012, 10:29 PM

Do you hate Bin Laden?

Matej · 10-13-2012, 10:45 PM

Anyone who actually listens to anything they are told during the election period is an idiot. The parties are willing to say anything to pander to voters, to the point of it being totally obvious and cheesy, and I do not understand how some people can take it seriously.
I cannot listen to either candidate or the people backing them, because I feel they are insulting my intelligence, and when I think how much money is being spent on the campaigning, it just saddens me.

gbaby2089 · 10-13-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Do you hate Bin Laden?

As a person and his actions? Of course.

He did act rationally toward his goal. (That speaking from a purely logical perspective on my own part)

Omarius Maximus · 10-14-2012, 10:01 AM

I need affordable healthcare. Voting for Obama.

When I need rich people to trickle down some wealth on my face; I'll vote for Romney.

10-11-2012, 08:05 PM	#271
D.Adams Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona Age: 41 Posts: 2,587 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Fuck em all .. If we could bring people back from the dead I would vote for Hitler. But on a serious note I vote for Ted Nugent .. __________________ “About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends.” ―Herbert Hoover The build http://zilvia.net/f/builds-builds-on...u-city-az.html Owner of NVS Fabrications

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Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	^^^^ Sadly, I think a lot of people are going to vote simply based on stupid internet pictures and gifs and t-shirt/sticker campaigns like that. remember that huge sales tactic with those "hope" and "change" shirts and stickers and whatnot? So many people fell for it. lol __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

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Highway Riding Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Out on the Highway! Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Biden lied about not voting for 2 wars on a cc WH walks back biden tax comments (basically lied) In 1982, Biden voted for a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade. In 1986, Jeannie Rosoff, a top official of Planned Parenthood, said, “Joe Biden moans a lot and then usually votes against us.” __________________ The Sun Rises in the East!

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DoobieS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Delaware Age: 33 Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ryan defff had to debate against TWO people tonight lol wow that lady was biased as FUCCCCCCCCC. lol But i did only watch the last 20 mins, the O's had more oif my attention haha

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gbaby2089 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: WI Posts: 833 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He also made the Iranian nuclear program seem much further along than it really is. Even is Iran has the ability to enrich plutonium/uranium/whatever right now, look at how long it has taken North Korea to build a missile that wouldn't go into the sea less than 100 miles off the coast. With the sanctions and support of most of the globe against the Iranian regime, it'll be a LONNNGGGG time. And lets not forget that where the Obama admin. has taken steps to work with the Russians, Mitt has said that he considered Russia our number one foe.

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onehundredoctane Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Greensborough, NC Posts: 2,783 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Love the memes floating around after the debates, I'll admit Drunk Uncle had his funny moments, but instead of sticking his foot in his mouth he just laughed the entire time and interupted Ryan over and over.

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gbaby2089 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: WI Posts: 833 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't understand why people pants are in a bunch for Biden interrupting Paul Ryan. Did not a single one of you see Mitt interrupting Obama and the moderator on a constant basis?

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gbaby2089 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: WI Posts: 833 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Am I the only person who finds it difficult to accept the political opinion of someone who can't comprehend there/their/they're? They're all seeking something, to say they're greedy is silly. Some simply want power, some want approval, some may be in it for $$$ reasons (although getting into politics for the money is a bit silly), etc. Most successful politicians were faced with some sort of difficulty early in life that shaped them forever.

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Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Anyone who actually listens to anything they are told during the election period is an idiot. The parties are willing to say anything to pander to voters, to the point of it being totally obvious and cheesy, and I do not understand how some people can take it seriously. I cannot listen to either candidate or the people backing them, because I feel they are insulting my intelligence, and when I think how much money is being spent on the campaigning, it just saddens me.

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Omarius Maximus Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 564 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I need affordable healthcare. Voting for Obama. When I need rich people to trickle down some wealth on my face; I'll vote for Romney.