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Old 10-11-2012, 07:31 PM   #1
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Good to see Paul Ryan just straight up LYING about foreign policy.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:10 PM   #2
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Good to see Paul Ryan just straight up LYING about foreign policy.
how so? Please provide citations too. Don't want someone's opinion but facts...




I feel like Biden is being freaken rude too.
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how so? Please provide citations too. Don't want someone's opinion but facts...

I feel like Biden is being freaken rude too.
On what topics? They hopped on many, many points, I don't want to spend time clarifying stuff that you don't care about or have a deep understanding of.
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On what topics? They hopped on many, many points, I don't want to spend time clarifying stuff that you don't care about or have a deep understanding of.
Hey fuck you man, can't you read the quote? You're the one that made a claim and all I'm asking is for you to clarify it asshole.

FOREIGN POLICY you retard.
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Hey fuck you man, can't you read the quote? You're the one that made a claim and all I'm asking is for you to clarify it asshole.

FOREIGN POLICY you retard.
Do you realize how broad a subject that is?

US-Russian relations
US-Israeli relations
Libyan situation
Syria/Assad
Afghanistan
Iranian nuclear situation

Those are each huge subjects.
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Do you realize how broad that statement is?

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US-Russian relations
US-Israeli relations
Libyan situation
Syria/Assad
Afghanistan
Iranian nuclear situation
"Those are each huge subjects."



Since you don't know what the hell YOU are talking about, why don't we start off with Iran.
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how so? Please provide citations too. Don't want someone's opinion but facts...
Ryan lied about a lot of things, foreign policy was but one of them.

A select few:

1 – “it took the president two weeks to acknowledge Libya as a terrorist attack”
truth – it was acknowledged as such the very next day
2 – “the administration is blocking us every step of the way” in reference to Iran sanctions
truth – quite the opposite, to the point where the Israeli praises the administration and the steps they have taken to stop Iran.
3 – “the VP was in charge of $90bil in green pork to contributors”
truth – the guy overseeing him in this was Herb Allison. Herb should be familiar to conservatives as the finance chair for McCain’s failed attempt at becoming president in 2008. No such “pork” was found.
4 – “Obamacare takes 716bil from medicare to spend on Obamacare”
truth – most of that money is taken from overpayments to insurance companies, which in turn cuts rampant fraud, waste, and abuse of the system for profit.
5 – “8 of 10 businesses file their taxes as individuals, not as corporations”
truth – in context, less than half the people who would be affected by the expiring tax cuts get their income as a small business.
6 – “the 5 billion dollar plan has been discredited”
truth – the studies he cites actually PROVE, not discredit the claim


A lot of these are the same old shit, though... If you repeat a lie enough, eventually it will grow legs and SOMEONE will accept it as the truth.
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