SR20 oil pump

[mohnissan]

HI GUYS

I need your help plz.

I have a SR20DET red top I have a proplem with my oil pump (it not pumping)

so I will change it now I want to ask you guys

is the sr20de (FWD form G20) fit in my engine (SR20det RWD)

bcuz. in my plane we have the oil pump of the SR20DE form G20 in the dealer for 230$

I do some search in the net and find a oil pump form phase2motortrend.com for $240.00 ( http://shop.store.yahoo.com/phase2mo...0detoemoi.html )




and from JWT for 295.00 ( JWT oil pump )



so what is the beter to do?

thanks for help

[rednerd]

You didn't search and you have the grammer skills of a five year old.

But I will take pitty on you. NO!!! The covers are not the same. While the SR20DE cover may work, one of the small 10mm head bolts won't line up. It is off by about an inch. Changing the oil pump with the engine in a 240sx is a complete bitch so I'd spend the extra $10 and get the right part.

You might want to pull the engine and change the cover outside of the car. While you are at it you might also want to replace the timing chain guides and tensioner.

Jon

P.S. I don't know about Nissan engines but I've seen "hi volume" oil pumps break stuff on other engines.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Phase2 is selling the direct OEM SR20DET replacement with everything you'll need. If you look a the front side of the engine, the whole plate behind the pulley... that whole thing will be replaced with the Phase2 one. Or you can just get the pump itself and figure out how to replace JUST the oil pump gears instead of the whole thing. Also theres aftermarket higher volume oil pumps out there *Tomei* I too have an oil pump issue *not enough pressure when hot* Personally, Id probably go with the Phase2 one just cuz its the easiest route to go. But either way, youre gonna have to tear down the block to get to that plate since it seat between the head and the lower oil buffle.

[mohnissan]

every time I post I must say than I am from bahrain and my first languge is arabic, and that good to my to now this littel English

now

about JWT I give hem E-mail and he say that this oil pump for SR20DET FWD

and the SR20DE not work with me (as I now from you guys)

so now I have only one option, it is phase2motortrend.com

about hi volume oil pump, were can I find it I search the net (tomei and jun) I do not find

so if any one have a link for one help me plz. and give my

thanks

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by rednerd

You didn't search and you have the grammer skills of a five year old.

English isnt his 1st language, check the location of the poster before you make an ass of yourself.

[element240]

heavy throttle sells the oil pump rotor for $100 ( is the oil pump rotor the problem? )

www.srswap.com/shopexd.asp?id=314

who else besides phase2 carries the SR oem front cover w/ oil pump ?

[mohnissan]

o.k element240 I see the oil pump in heavy throttle (thank you)



but see the pic. is the tomei oil pmp fit in the stock timing cover or must order with tomei cover

btw, I E-mail http://www.aebsracing.com/main.pl (the dealer for Tomei in USA) and ask about oil pump

they say they have one for $572.40
AEBS
Tel: 858.693.3200
Fax: 858.693.3449
E-mail : [email protected]

now I will check my nissan dealer if he can do a order from Japan

[mohnissan]

hi guys help me

any one of you have the parts no.# for the SR20DET oil pump

plllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllz. help me

[Sileighty_85]

Sorry to bring this back from the dead
But I came across some info today (that might be helpful) when I orderd my SR Oil pump.

I did a search and Im reading that everyone is saying the USDM SR20DE Oil Pump is differnt from the S13 SR20DET Oil pump

But while I was living in Okinawa and shipping my SR home I went to a local OEM part store (Touguchi's)
and got a print out of an IPB for the 180SX SR20DET,
Today I went to the Nissan Dealership and got an IPB Print out for a 92 Sentra SR20DE and compared Part Numbers and the both have the EXACT same Part number #13035 For the Oil Pump/Timing Cover.

SOOO.... Has anyone actually purchased the SR20DE to see if it works?
Sorry if it been coverd I didnt really feel like searching through every single thread. Just tryin to help out...Peace

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

Sorry to bring this back from the dead
But I came across some info today (that might be helpful) when I orderd my SR Oil pump.

I did a search and Im reading that everyone is saying the USDM SR20DE Oil Pump is differnt from the S13 SR20DET Oil pump

But while I was living in Okinawa and shipping my SR home I went to a local OEM part store (Touguchi's)
and got a print out of an IPB for the 180SX SR20DET,
Today I went to the Nissan Dealership and got an IPB Print out for a 92 Sentra SR20DE and compared Part Numbers and the both have the EXACT same Part number #13035 For the Oil Pump/Timing Cover.

SOOO.... Has anyone actually purchased the SR20DE to see if it works?
Sorry if it been coverd I didnt really feel like searching through every single thread. Just tryin to help out...Peace

If you look at the FWD SR20DE front cover and the RWD SR20DET front cover side by side, you will notice that the two top most bolt holes are different (bolt to the head). On the FWD the bolt are accessible from the outside, as for the RWD these bolts are only accessible from inside of the head. Also, on the FWD front cover, one of the bolt hole is in a slightly different location in comparison to the RWD. There are other differences too, but those are the most noticable.

[Sileighty_85]

Originally Posted by WilloW

If you look at the FWD SR20DE front cover and the RWD SR20DET front cover side by side, you will notice that the two top most bolt holes are different (bolt to the head). On the FWD the bolt are accessible from the outside, as for the RWD these bolts are only accessible from inside of the head. Also, on the FWD front cover, one of the bolt hole is in a slightly different location in comparison to the RWD. There are other differences too, but those are the most noticable.

Then why are the part #'s Exactly the same? They already produced the SR20DE in Japan for some vehicals why would the spend more time and money to make it differnt if it already works?

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

Then why are the part #'s Exactly the same?

Don't know, I looked at them side by side and that's what I see. Why don't you try it and let us know if they are the same.

[Sileighty_85]

Originally Posted by WilloW

Don't know, I looked at them side by side and that's what I see. Why don't you try it and let us know if they are the same.

did you look at one from the G20 or the Sentra?
Well i got this info after I got mine ordered from a buddy in Okinawa so I wont know.. but I'll talk to the nissan guys to see if they got one lying around so Ican compare mine with the sentras

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

did you look at one from the G20 or the Sentra?
Well i got this info after I got mine ordered from a buddy in Okinawa so I wont know.. but I'll talk to the nissan guys to see if they got one lying around so Ican compare mine with the sentras

Actually, you could just look at the picture of the front cover that mohnissan posted, and pay close attention to the top most portion of the front cover where the cover bolts to the cylinder head. Note that the bolt holes are on the outside of the front cover, now look at your front cover and you will see that these same bolt holes are on the inside.

When I last had a look, I was comparing the GTIR front cover against the S13 Blacktop's. I figured that all the FWD front cover has the same configuration since the FWD guys are using these as upgrades.

[Sileighty_85]

Originally Posted by WilloW

Actually, you could just look at the picture of the front cover that mohnissan posted, and pay close attention to the top most portion of the front cover where the cover bolts to the cylinder head. Note that the bolt holes are on the outside of the front cover, now look at your front cover and you will see that these same bolt holes are on the inside.

When I last had a look, I was comparing the GTIR front cover against the S13 Blacktop's. I figured that all the FWD front cover has the same configuration since the FWD guys are using these as upgrades.

Well the Plusar GTIR is like a differnt breed of red tops, internals and externals are completly differnt from regular red tops so that why they appear differnt.
My buddy had one in Oki and we ripped it appart rebuilt it and slapped on a T-67 so I know this first hand

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

Well the Plusar GTIR is like a differnt breed of red top internals and externals are completly differnt from regular red tops so that why they appear differnt.
My buddie had one in Oki and we ripped it appart rebuilt and slapped on a T-67 so I know this first hand

I know the GTIR SR is different than the regular SR, what I'm trying to tell you is that the FWD front cover that you mentioned (GTIR, SR20VE, SR20DE fwd) are different than the RWD front cover. If the GTIR oilpump is sooo completely different then how does the FWD guys bolts it to their FWD SR but we can't?

[Sileighty_85]

Hmmmm.... Is it possible the G20 SR20 and the Sentra SR20 are different? (I dont see why they would be though) I read lots of ppl talking about the G20 but not the Sentra.
I dont know much about the US Engines Cuz I didnt get into Street Racing until I was living in Okinawa So I only know the "JDM" Engines..
I just happend to notice that the "JDM" SRDET Oil pump and the "USDM" SRDE Part #'s were the same but Im gonna look in to this though. I gonna try to get my hands on a Senta SR20DE pump and compare first hand.

[johngriff]

the GTI-R front assembly is diffent from all others in all respects, including the water pump.

If it is just the top holes, drill and retap. Done deal. I am interested in this thread, and some answers.

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

Hmmmm.... Is it possible the G20 SR20 and the Sentra SR20 are different? (I dont see why they would be though) I read lots of ppl talking about the G20 but not the Sentra.
I dont know much about the US Engines Cuz I didnt get into Street Racing until I was living in Okinawa So I only know the "JDM" Engines..
I just happend to notice that the "JDM" SRDET Oil pump and the "USDM" SRDE Part #'s were the same but Im gonna look in to this though. I gonna try to get my hands on a Senta SR20DE pump and compare first hand.

If they're the same, I'll buy you a beer whenever you're in Dallas.

[Sileighty_85]

Originally Posted by WilloW

If they're the same, I'll buy you a beer whenever you're in Dallas.

HaHa Sounds good to me ^_^b

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by johngriff

the GTI-R front assembly is diffent from all others in all respects, including the water pump.

If it is just the top holes, drill and retap. Done deal. I am interested in this thread, and some answers.

Are you thinking about swaping front cover to get more volume? If you are, then I'm probably thinking the same.

There's a guy from Australia that fitted a GTIR oilpump/front cover onto a RWD SR, his reason for doing it was because he wanted more oil volume. With some minor modification, he got it to bolt on to the RWD SR with only one of the top bolt hole.

For a while I was thinking about fitting the VE front cover onto my Blacktop using the same method the Australian guy used, but I never had the time to do it. Ontop of that the VE front cover is about $250, and I had just purchased a RWD front cover. Someone on SR20 Forum, actually took apart the GTIR, DE, and VE pump gear to compared them and the GTIR and the VE pump gears are thicker (more volume?).