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Old 12-31-2012, 12:44 AM   #1
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285/35/18 on 10.5 +15 with a 20mm spacer on the 6666 RB kit. I could go pretty wide in the back easy, but this is good for now. Now to figure out the fronts...... any pointers for a 10.5 on a S13 front. I am open to modding the coliover mounting positions or whatever. As far as where I want the wheel in the guard, a 5mm or less spacer would be great.


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That looks pretty good to me. 20mm isn't too bad compared to what some of the Tra Kyoto kit fitted cars are running.
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Another shot of the 285's...

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Question for you guys.
I'm running 18x10+38 RPF1's with 275/35/18 on the rear of my S14.

I was rubbing wheels on the Rear LCA [the forward portion of the "A" arm] when the car was lowered[tucking 1/2" of tire in the rear with about 0.5degree of camber, 0 toe, 3/4" fender pull/roll on stock metal] on coilovers.

I have sold the coilovers and now am on KYB GR-2's with Tein Lowering springs so no more problems, but I will eventually lower the car back down to it's previous height.

How can I modify the stock LCA to keep it just as strong but give me more wheel clearance? [with out buying after market tubular arms of course]

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Absolutely... You'll have to notch where the wheel was hitting and box it back in. If I recall correctly, Toby has the same thing done on his S13.
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I personally enjoy telling people that I tuck 275's in rear with good alignment on stock fender, so this is a must do so I can have the car lower then pictured above when I get coilovers again.

Any pics/ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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I personally enjoy telling people that I tuck 275's in rear with good alignment on stock fender, so this is a must do so I can have the car lower then pictured above when I get coilovers again.

Any pics/ideas would be greatly appreciated.
I'm assuming you hit because the angle of that arm was actually at an upward slope towards your ball joint, rather than remaining level/flat to the ground. If this is the case, you have a few options without really modifying the control arm.

1. You could get roll centers, which would correct some of your geometry in the rear and move the arm closer to level. This would probably let the car ride better and lessen the amount you may have to clearance on the control arm.

2. Add a small spacer in the rear (2mm or so). However, you'll have to pull the rear fenders slightly more.

3. You could grind the lip of the control arm away just where the rim impinges.

4. Aftermarket LCA's are an option and would give you the best all around combination of clearance and adjustability.

However, if you want to absolutely modify and give the best clearance, I would mark and pull the arm. Notch it, then reinforce the LCA with the same or heavier gauge material, connecting to the existing portion of the arm not needing clearancing.

I have roughly .500" between my LCA and wheel. Im also running +36 rear wheels and not nearly as low as you were. I intend to have my fender arch even with the top of the tire, not really looking to tuck.

I've been looking for photos of notched LCA'S but no dice as of yet. It seems that everyone wants to be herraflush and sacrafice grip for fitment.
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I'm assuming you hit because the angle of that arm was actually at an upward slope towards your ball joint, rather than remaining level/flat to the ground. If this is the case, you have a few options without really modifying the control arm.

1. You could get roll centers, which would correct some of your geometry in the rear and move the arm closer to level. This would probably let the car ride better and lessen the amount you may have to clearance on the control arm.

2. Add a small spacer in the rear (2mm or so). However, you'll have to pull the rear fenders slightly more.

3. You could grind the lip of the control arm away just where the rim impinges.

4. Aftermarket LCA's are an option and would give you the best all around combination of clearance and adjustability.

However, if you want to absolutely modify and give the best clearance, I would mark and pull the arm. Notch it, then reinforce the LCA with the same or heavier gauge material, connecting to the existing portion of the arm not needing clearancing.

I have roughly .500" between my LCA and wheel. Im also running +36 rear wheels and not nearly as low as you were. I intend to have my fender arch even with the top of the tire, not really looking to tuck.

I've been looking for photos of notched LCA'S but no dice as of yet. It seems that everyone wants to be herraflush and sacrafice grip for fitment.
Roll center adjustment with stock LCA at that height would also require a notching/reinforcement, because at that point, the LCA would be berried into the wheel.

spacer is not an option as I absolutely want to be able to stay hub-centric, so the minimal amount of spacer I would use is 10mm slip-on with built in hub-lip/ring.

I have ground down the lip leaving about 1mm of metal on it still not wanting it to bend, but it's still so scary close to the wheel.

I don't care for the aftermarket LCA's as I am not doing any professional racing or drifting.

yeah, i have no luck in finding anyone with notched LCA's either. but I want to be herraflush and have no camber either

i unno..trying something new here, not trying to prove anything to anyone but to myself.

I want to be about 1/4" lower then this picture eventually.


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So i picked up some 17x8 + 35 and some 17x9 + 35 Wheels and i'm finally going to be getting around to getting them put on. I originally was planning on trying to squeeze a 275/40/17 on the 17x9+35's and do a 235/40 or 45/17 on the 17x8+35 But it seems like a 255/40/17 might be the better idea for the 17x9.

This is going on a S13 Coupe. with rolled fenders (can pull if need be but not looking to do any major massaging. Just not sure if the 275 would be a better idea to hold a 500+WHP hit.

Still debating on what tire, Trying to get away from running a drag radial all the time.
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So i picked up some 17x8 + 35 and some 17x9 + 35 Wheels and i'm finally going to be getting around to getting them put on. I originally was planning on trying to squeeze a 275/40/17 on the 17x9+35's and do a 235/40 or 45/17 on the 17x8+35 But it seems like a 255/40/17 might be the better idea for the 17x9.

This is going on a S13 Coupe. with rolled fenders (can pull if need be but not looking to do any major massaging. Just not sure if the 275 would be a better idea to hold a 500+WHP hit.

Still debating on what tire, Trying to get away from running a drag radial all the time.
A 265 would probably be the most you'd be able to squeeze on a 9. If you look at some of the tires available they run extremely wide. I had 265/35/18 Azenis RT615's and they were less than an .125" or an 1/8" smaller than the 275's, which is why I went to 285's.
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im tucking 335's on my s13...... but definately not on a stock fender....lol
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Looking for GRIP on my 1JZ powered S13-hatch, figured I need 245/35/18's or 17's in front and 285/35/18's in the rear.. willing to roll/pull but no over-fenders or wheel spacers, no drifting/racing just wanna have a killer ride :-) but, don't know where to start :-( ..any advice is greatly appreciated....Thanks ZILVIANS!
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Looking for GRIP on my 1JZ powered S13-hatch, figured I need 245/35/18's or 17's in front and 285/35/18's in the rear.. willing to roll/pull but no over-fenders or wheel spacers, no drifting/racing just wanna have a killer ride :-) but, don't know where to start :-( ..any advice is greatly appreciated....Thanks ZILVIANS!
If you don't mind rolling and pulling just go for some 285/30-18 or 295/30-18 (common size for 993 Porsche Carreras) in the rear and a 245/40-18 in the front.
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If you don't mind rolling and pulling just go for some 285/30-18 or 295/30-18 (common size for 993 Porsche Carreras) in the rear and a 245/40-18 in the front.
Yes I like those but, what about offset and rim sizes, that's where i'm confused as hell..lol, I have old-school K-SPORT coil-overs but don't wanna buy anything that's gonna be way too much hasle to make it work and want to figure this out before I have the car painted of course!..Thanks guys!
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Yes I like those but, what about offset and rim sizes, that's where i'm confused as hell..lol, I have old-school K-SPORT coil-overs but don't wanna buy anything that's gonna be way too much hasle to make it work and want to figure this out before I have the car painted of course!..Thanks guys!
You have an S13 so I'm really not too sure. But on my car I'm running 18X10.5 ET30 with ta 275/35-18 with less the -2 degrees of camber and I still have about 10mm from the inner lip to the coilovers and i could probably even go up to a 295/30-18 and I only have my fenders rolled. NO PULL.

So if you're willing to pull I would probably go with a 18X10.5 ET22 Varrstoen or something like that.
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Looking for GRIP on my 1JZ powered S13-hatch, figured I need 245/35/18's or 17's in front and 285/35/18's in the rear.. willing to roll/pull but no over-fenders or wheel spacers, no drifting/racing just wanna have a killer ride :-) but, don't know where to start :-( ..any advice is greatly appreciated....Thanks ZILVIANS!

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So if you're willing to pull I would probably go with a 18X10.5 ET22 Varrstoen or something like that.
He would need a pretty decent pull to fit a 285 on a 10.5 +22 on an S13. I'm running 18x11 +30 on a 285/30/18 and it's absolutely perfect. That's with -2.75 degrees of camber, about a 25mm pull and I'm fairly low. Mojos13 If you want to be low at all you will also need wide front fenders to fit a 245 on an S13. Not to mention you will need to modify the upper wheel housing lip, back wheel housing lip and relocate the drivers side chassis harness. Otherwise a 245 will rub on all of those while at full lock.

My rear fitment and pull for reference... this is probably exactly what you are looking for:







Front fitment: 18x9.5 +12 with a 245/35/18 with -2.5 degrees of camber and 20mm wide fenders:





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Note: with an 11" +30 I had to modify the upper wheel housing, and notch the OEM lower control arm. So you may want to roughly stick to the size that JDM SPUG mentioned... a 10.5" in the +24 range or a 10" +17 range.

You can also go here if you want to see some of the different size setups I have had over the years. Let me know if you need additional close-up fitment pics of any of those setups.

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Broadfield, can you please take a picture of your rear lower control arm that's been notched?

I'm scratching my head on this one to figure out how to actually do it.

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I'm scratching my head on this one to figure out how to actually do it.

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I run a 245/40 on a 17x9.5 +19 up front on my s13 with just a mild roll (you can see in this picture the edge isnt flat). 3 degees of camber. 255 should work with a slight pull

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I run a 245/40 on a 17x9.5 +19 up front on my s13 with just a mild roll (you can see in this picture the edge isnt flat). 3 degees of camber. 255 should work with a slight pull
You are not very low though... what you can fit is GREATLY going to depend on ride height. I use to run a 245 with zero camber, stock fenders, no roll, no pull, no nothing.... but my ride height was as high as yours.
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This is after the pull/alignment.

Specs,

Front.
18x9 +14
275/35/18 Nitto NT-05
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18x10.50 +20
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Not sure how much I pulled the fenders, but It maxed out an eastwood roller.
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255/40/17 Toyo RA1's all around. 17x9 +25 front, 17x9.5 +30 rear. -3 camber up front, -2 in the rear. Fronts are rolled, rears are rolled and pulled.
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Chris28, since you run 255/40/17 in the front, 245/40/17 should be cake on the same 17/9 +25 rim correct?...that's the kind of info i need so i can get my rims/tires and start massging/hammering stuff to make fit. I don't need to be so much slammed/hella-flush, just don't want the 4X4 look...lol!
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255/40/17 Toyo RA1's all around. 17x9 +25 front, 17x9.5 +30 rear. -3 camber up front, -2 in the rear. Fronts are rolled, rears are rolled and pulled.
would those front's 17x9 + 25 255/40/17 fit in the rear with a roll and no pull, any change in camber needed for that or slightly different offset ?
looking for flush + meaty fitment on my S13 hatch.
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This is after the pull/alignment.

Specs,

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Rear
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Not sure how much I pulled the fenders, but It maxed out an eastwood roller.
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how the hell do you have a rear windshield wiper?
Legit Silvia I imported, Its got some other rare-ish oem goodies too.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:29 PM   #30
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Yeah that looks doable to me, the biggest issue is the 285's that i need in the rear, what do you guys think of the 245/40/17 in front & 285/30/18 rear???
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