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Originally Posted by Ninjabread
so the consensus is basically that the .86ar sucks?
Damn, I was just about to buy one 
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No, just figure out what you want more - topend or midrange
In my case I had the Full Race turbo manifold and my .86ar spooled more like a .64 so I got the best of both worlds.
"Good" or "best" are relative terms in this sort of decision. Are you going to drift? Autocross? Street daily driven? Drag or highway race?
I drove my car 95% street and 5% drag, so I went to the .86ar but used cams with better mid range to create a combo that I was really happy with.