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Old 10-20-2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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DEMS GET SET TO MUZZLE THE RIGHT - New York Post


SHOULD Barack Obama win the presidency and Democrats take full control of Congress, next year will see a real legislative attempt to bring back the Fairness Doctrine - and to diminish conservatives' influence on broadcast radio, the one medium they dominate.

Yes, the Obama campaign said some months back that the candidate doesn't seek to re-impose this regulation, which, until Ronald Reagan's FCC phased it out in the 1980s, required TV and radio broadcasters to give balanced airtime to opposing viewpoints or face steep fines or even loss of license. But most Democrats - including party elders Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Al Gore - strongly support the idea of mandating "fairness."

Would a President Obama veto a new Fairness Doctrine if Congress enacted one? It's doubtful.

The Fairness Doctrine was an astonishingly bad idea. It's a too-tempting power for government to abuse. When the doctrine was in effect, both Democratic and Republican administrations regularly used it to harass critics on radio and TV.

Second, a new Fairness Doctrine would drive political talk radio off the dial. If a station ran a big-audience conservative program like, say, Laura Ingraham's, it would also have to run a left-leaning alternative. But liberals don't do well on talk radio, as the failure of Air America and indeed all other liberal efforts in the medium to date show. Stations would likely trim back conservative shows so as to avoid airing unsuccessful liberal ones.

Then there's all the lawyers you'd have to hire to respond to the regulators measuring how much time you devoted to this topic or that. Too much risk and hassle, many radio executives would conclude. Why not switch formats to something less charged - like entertainment or sports coverage?
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so if i had a viewpoint that i wanted to say fuckshitassbitchcumpussygooch on the radio i'd get to say it?

but seriously wtf that sounds like a shitty idea.

The FCC is bigger than it should be as it is.
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i hope barack wins .. even if people dont like black people .. lets see what he can do .. it'll be history im amazed that he hasnt got sniped down yet .. if you go out n vote please vote for barack .. i wish i could.
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why do you always post threads that are negative towards Barack Obama and the democratic party?

where are the negative republican threads at? we all know how smart and experienced Sarah Palin is
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we all know how smart and experienced Sarah Palin is
Better watch what you say.

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When she becomes President in 2012.
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why do you always post threads that are negative towards Barack Obama and the democratic party?

where are the negative republican threads at? we all know how smart and experienced Sarah Palin is
because any idiot can see that stuff.

Has Obama said anything about his views on the fairness doctrine?
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I salute the repost. (the Video, the thread topic otherwise is pretty much shit and not worth explaining)
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Yes, less annoying backwards politics talk shows infesting the airwaves.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NMZv6Vfh8
I like Colin Powell more than RJF Havent met either so I guess I could be wrong about both though...
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shows how fucken ignorant people are. reminds me of the videos i've seen on the worthless klan.

its as if the republican party is perfect with nothing negative to post about them.

all the political threads that RJF has posted have been negative towards the democratic party but nothing at all about the republicans.

why is that?
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DEMS GET SET TO MUZZLE THE RIGHT - New York Post


SHOULD Barack Obama win the presidency and Democrats take full control of Congress, next year will see a real legislative attempt to bring back the Fairness Doctrine - and to diminish conservatives' influence on broadcast radio, the one medium they dominate.

Yes, the Obama campaign said some months back that the candidate doesn't seek to re-impose this regulation, which, until Ronald Reagan's FCC phased it out in the 1980s, required TV and radio broadcasters to give balanced airtime to opposing viewpoints or face steep fines or even loss of license. But most Democrats - including party elders Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Al Gore - strongly support the idea of mandating "fairness."

Would a President Obama veto a new Fairness Doctrine if Congress enacted one? It's doubtful.

The Fairness Doctrine was an astonishingly bad idea. It's a too-tempting power for government to abuse. When the doctrine was in effect, both Democratic and Republican administrations regularly used it to harass critics on radio and TV.

Second, a new Fairness Doctrine would drive political talk radio off the dial. If a station ran a big-audience conservative program like, say, Laura Ingraham's, it would also have to run a left-leaning alternative. But liberals don't do well on talk radio, as the failure of Air America and indeed all other liberal efforts in the medium to date show. Stations would likely trim back conservative shows so as to avoid airing unsuccessful liberal ones.

Then there's all the lawyers you'd have to hire to respond to the regulators measuring how much time you devoted to this topic or that. Too much risk and hassle, many radio executives would conclude. Why not switch formats to something less charged - like entertainment or sports coverage?
I agree, I don't trust him or his party to not abuse that power. It has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with his track record. That and Pelosi is a cunt. No party deserves that much power.
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shows how fucken ignorant people are. reminds me of the videos i've seen on the worthless klan.

its as if the republican party is perfect with nothing negative to post about them.

all the political threads that RJF has posted have been negative towards the democratic party but nothing at all about the republicans.

why is that?
He's an admin. Don't like it go post somewhere else.
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as long as i dont loose my 2nd amendment!
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as long as i dont loose my 2nd amendment!
That'll be next.

Remember we're supposedly "bitter" and "cling to our guns and religion"
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as long as i dont loose my 2nd amendment!
That's the thing, if you make one amendment "obsolete" or "invalid" you pretty much do that to the rest of them. Remember this quote while you enjoy your police state with in the next 10 years... "an unarmed citizen is a subject."
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Screw the Constitution.
Yes I said it.
I can't believe people in 2008 want to live by a document written over 200 years ago, back when times were completely different and it was written to suit the needs of the people of that time.
The Constitution is obsolete and needs to be overhauled. Even though I definitely do not trust the current government to rewrite it.
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Screw the Constitution.
Yes I said it.
I can't believe people in 2008 want to live by a document written over 200 years ago, back when times were completely different and it was written to suit the needs of the people of that time.
The Constitution is obsolete and needs to be overhauled.
You should check the track record of countries that don't have a constitution like ours if you think it is so good some place else. England and Australia come to mind. You think it sucks here, move to one of those two.
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You should check the track record of countries that don't have a constitution like ours if you think it is so good some place else. England and Australia come to mind. You think it sucks here, move to one of those two.
Have you ever lived in either one, for an extended period of time? Tell me what's so terrible about living there.
But that's off the subject, I'm not saying any country has the perfect government.
I'm just tired of people constantly calling on the amendments, that are irrelevant by this century. The Constitution was a masterpiece of its time, but now it's 2008. The king of Britain isn't trying to house soldiers in your homes.
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Have you ever lived in either one, for an extended period of time?
I have several relatives and friends who have. I know better than to move there. Read some books about them, socialism sucks.
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Read some books about them, socialism sucks.
The US government is currently buying up banks. I could call that socialism, because if that doesn't reek of socialism, I don't know what does. However, that just goes back to the problem of trying to classify everything as black or white. I believe some government involvement in certain things can be a good thing, such as health care for example, it's just a matter of finding a balance that works, something that years from now doesn't result in another catastrophic failure like today's economic situation.
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The US government is currently buying up banks. I could call that socialism, because if that doesn't reek of socialism, I don't know what does. However, that just goes back to the problem of trying to classify everything as black or white. I believe some government involvement in certain things is can be a good thing, it's just a matter of finding a good balance, that in the future doesn't result in another complete failure like today's economy situation.
You're agreeing with what I am saying. I see where we are going with this whole shift. It IS socialism, and it isn't a good thing. Those banks should be allowed to fail and should be absorbed by the stronger banks. That is the American way, some win, some lose, but you're free do it....not this everybody wins bullshit.
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Remember we're supposedly "bitter" and "cling to our guns and religion"

every been to hicksville nowhere in the bible belt?? THATS ALL THEY DO

"real men love jesus" bumper sticker right next to the gun rack in the back of the truck.

stores all closed on sundays.
gun shops on every street.

HAH.

and i LOVE the fact republicans always bring up terrorists or terror as a way to scare people. and i love the fact they always refer to the news as "the liberal media" when rupert murdoch, ceo of news corp. AND A REPUBLICAN owns most of the worlds media outlets.
News Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there's a list of everything he controls. how ignorant do you have to be to not see that the repubs control most media in the united states. rupert murdoch, an australian, runs the media and our country. he can put whatever the hell he wants on the news, and most of the retards in this country would believe it! they do anyway. american politics are corrupted, dems and repubs. believe me, if i ahd the money and a job in a different country i would move in a heartbeat. canada, england, australia, wherever. people need to stop acting like america is the best country in the world and that capitalisim is so great. its capitalisim and closeminded thinking that got america so fucked up in the first place.
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That is the American way, some win, some lose, but you're free do it....not this everybody wins bullshit.
Obviously it isn't the American way, as even America turns to extreme socialist practices when times get tough.
Let me make it clear that I do not agree with the government buying up banks.
However, as I've already stated, I would be all up for paying higher taxes and having a government funded "free" health care system. That goes back to having a working balance of government involvement in certain areas, where it would actually be beneficial to the people. Socialism and having a smart government involvement are two different things.
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so fox might actually be fair and balanced instead of a 24/7 smear campaign? oh no
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unless they are advocating government ownership akin to the soviet union, it aint socialism people. Socialism is what china, the USSR and north vietnam HAD, yes HAD. There is no country in the world that is socialist in the sense that keeps being mentioned. Even Hugo Chavez isnt really a socialist (what he is is unclear, but we will see after the oil wealth drys up...)

what you meant to say is social democratic and england, second only to ireland, is probably the worst example in the world. Fuck our anglocentrism. England does not represent europe by both their own and european admission.

if you had family members live there, were they citizens? did they have jobs? what sort? more important why did it suck? I am pretty sure is someone came to this country from europe and lived the way we treat most latin american immigrants they wouldnt have kind things to say about us. We probably shouldnt have kind things to say about us either.

My point is that you really need to be born and grow up in a regime to understand it or invest serious effort in attempting to understand it. Going there on business or as a troop deployment certainly will not give you an acurate representation of the situation (because you arent living like a normal citizen, Parts of life are closed to you. If you think this is wrong, try to vote in england )

oh, and because it is fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
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I personally hate the FCC. If I could, I would take the FCC, put it on a ship, and send it back to europe where it belongs.

If you dont like whats on tv, change the station
if you dont like what on the radio, turn it off
if you dont like whats in the news paper, put it down.

All of these politically correct people and their bullshit ideas of what I need to hear and see, I hate it. If I want to watch 2 asian hookers go down on a midget in a bikini, I don't want the government saying I cant.

Basically, in the words of so many,

FUCK THE FCC
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people need to stop acting like america is the best country in the world and that capitalisim is so great. its capitalisim and closeminded thinking that got america so fucked up in the first place.
OK, name a better country.

And if we are so f!@^&d up, why does everyone in the world want to come here?
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