There goes the First Ammendment

[Matej]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

You should check the track record of countries that don't have a constitution like ours if you think it is so good some place else. England and Australia come to mind. You think it sucks here, move to one of those two.

Have you ever lived in either one, for an extended period of time? Tell me what's so terrible about living there.
But that's off the subject, I'm not saying any country has the perfect government.
I'm just tired of people constantly calling on the amendments, that are irrelevant by this century. The Constitution was a masterpiece of its time, but now it's 2008. The king of Britain isn't trying to house soldiers in your homes.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by Matej

Have you ever lived in either one, for an extended period of time?

I have several relatives and friends who have. I know better than to move there. Read some books about them, socialism sucks.

[Matej]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

Read some books about them, socialism sucks.

The US government is currently buying up banks. I could call that socialism, because if that doesn't reek of socialism, I don't know what does. However, that just goes back to the problem of trying to classify everything as black or white. I believe some government involvement in certain things can be a good thing, such as health care for example, it's just a matter of finding a balance that works, something that years from now doesn't result in another catastrophic failure like today's economic situation.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by Matej

The US government is currently buying up banks. I could call that socialism, because if that doesn't reek of socialism, I don't know what does. However, that just goes back to the problem of trying to classify everything as black or white. I believe some government involvement in certain things is can be a good thing, it's just a matter of finding a good balance, that in the future doesn't result in another complete failure like today's economy situation.

You're agreeing with what I am saying. I see where we are going with this whole shift. It IS socialism, and it isn't a good thing. Those banks should be allowed to fail and should be absorbed by the stronger banks. That is the American way, some win, some lose, but you're free do it....not this everybody wins bullshit.

[Matej]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

That is the American way, some win, some lose, but you're free do it....not this everybody wins bullshit.

Obviously it isn't the American way, as even America turns to extreme socialist practices when times get tough.
Let me make it clear that I do not agree with the government buying up banks.
However, as I've already stated, I would be all up for paying higher taxes and having a government funded "free" health care system. That goes back to having a working balance of government involvement in certain areas, where it would actually be beneficial to the people. Socialism and having a smart government involvement are two different things.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by Matej

Obviously it isn't the American way, as even America turns to extreme socialist practices when times get tough.
Let me make it clear that I do not agree with the government buying up banks.
However, as I've already stated, I would be all up for paying higher taxes and having a government funded "free" health care system. That goes back to having a working balance of government involvement in certain areas, where it would actually be beneficial to the people. Socialism and having a smart government involvement are two different things.

I should have said "was". You're right.