Which tune is right for me?

[4nmscle]

Virus, stfu.

OP, honestly, I think you should just get a rom tune. I really don't think there is a need for the real time tune and squeezing every ounce out of a sub 400hp engine. The rom tune will work great, is very cost effective and if you change things up you can get a retune chip sent to you for a Franklin.

I use a JWT 700hp program rom tune on a 500+whp sr with a 62mm turbo and even I don't feel the need for the trouble of real time just yet. The MAF setup adapts well to weather changes as well as setup changes. Literally anything this side of a compression or injector change is taken care of by the MAF. Different turbo, more boost, different IC, different cams, anything you would want to upgrade doesn't require a trip to a dyno.

And there is no ball and chain keeping you here. If you feel it's such a shit house around here, feel free to find a new forum..

[FourtyKid]

Originally Posted by 4nmscle

Virus, stfu.

OP, honestly, I think you should just get a rom tune. I really don't think there is a need for the real time tune and squeezing every ounce out of a sub 400hp engine. The rom tune will work great, is very cost effective and if you change things up you can get a retune chip sent to you for a Franklin.

I use a JWT 700hp program rom tune on a 500+whp sr with a 62mm turbo and even I don't feel the need for the trouble of real time just yet. The MAF setup adapts well to weather changes as well as setup changes. Literally anything this side of a compression or injector change is taken care of by the MAF. Different turbo, more boost, different IC, different cams, anything you would want to upgrade doesn't require a trip to a dyno.

And there is no ball and chain keeping you here. If you feel it's such a shit house around here, feel free to find a new forum..

Thank you, this is the info I needed. I didn't know the MAF adapted like that, cool.

[4nmscle]

Originally Posted by FourtyKid

Thank you, this is the info I needed. I didn't know the MAF adapted like that, cool.

VERY versatile. Very simple and effective. Depending on where you live, summer to winter can cause some slight offsets with MAP tunes, granted Nistune uses a maf, the rom tunes are just so easy and SAFE. Until you start making crazy power there really isn't much reason for real time tuning to the ragged edge. A bad batch of gas and a hot summer day could turn into a nightmare. And all for what? MAYBE 30whp.. That is 30hp none the less, but it's just not worth the extra hassle to me. Just my opinion and of course everyone has one, but why even deal with sending your ecu off for a daughter board, sending it off for a base tune, driving to your tuner, paying him, then the actual tuning and right back you go if your setup changes.

With Enthalpy or JWT you just plug it up and go. As long as injectors stay the same you have nothing to worry about. Low boost, high boost, hot weather, cold weather, upgrades, you name it. And let me stress SAFE.

[Frank_Jaeger]

Originally Posted by 4nmscle

Virus, stfu.

OP, honestly, I think you should just get a rom tune. I really don't think there is a need for the real time tune and squeezing every ounce out of a sub 400hp engine. The rom tune will work great, is very cost effective and if you change things up you can get a retune chip sent to you for a Franklin.

I use a JWT 700hp program rom tune on a 500+whp sr with a 62mm turbo and even I don't feel the need for the trouble of real time just yet. The MAF setup adapts well to weather changes as well as setup changes. Literally anything this side of a compression or injector change is taken care of by the MAF. Different turbo, more boost, different IC, different cams, anything you would want to upgrade doesn't require a trip to a dyno.

And there is no ball and chain keeping you here. If you feel it's such a shit house around here, feel free to find a new forum..

you do not need to be giving tuning advice to anyone. jesus christ.

edit: too fucking late. don't listen to this asshole, the maf doesnt 'adapt' for shit. that guy's running a mismatched halfass tune and is asking for trouble all over.

[FourtyKid]

Originally Posted by Frank_Jaeger

you do not need to be giving tuning advice to anyone. jesus christ.

edit: too fucking late. don't listen to this asshole, the maf doesnt 'adapt' for shit. that guy's running a mismatched halfass tune and is asking for trouble all over.

Ok, so he's wrong. Why Nistune over the others? That Nismotronic looks pretty awesome.

[Frank_Jaeger]

Originally Posted by FourtyKid

Ok, so he's wrong. Why Nistune over the others?

Nistune supports real time editing and map tracing. The software's easy to use, and if you do proper research (as in, not making a thread like this), you can learn to tune yourself. At least I'm assuming you're capable. I come from a background in computer programming, I have a very aggressive desire to learn how systems work, and I'm moderately intelligent.

There's no waiting on mail-order tunes which are always rough tunes and only serve as a starting point for a vehicle. With rom tunes, every time you make a significant* change, you need to retune which entails burning endless roms if you do it yourself. With Nistune you cando it yourself in real time.

*here significant includes but is not limited to, changes in injector size, maf type, blowthrough / drawthrough changes, turbo type, octane used / e85 if applicable, cams, piston compression ratio, cylinder bore, headwork, intake / exhaust manifolds used, etc etc etc etc etccccccc

[4nmscle]

[QUOTE=Frank_Jaeger;5204521 With rom tunes, every time you make a significant* change, you need to retune which entails burning endless roms if you do it yourself. With Nistune you cando it yourself in real time[/QUOTE]

Please show me one ROM company that asks for turbo used.. This is absolutely retarded. Cams, bore size, exhaust??? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?? REALLLY???

[4nmscle]

Originally Posted by Frank_Jaeger

you do not need to be giving tuning advice to anyone. jesus christ.

edit: too fucking late. don't listen to this asshole, the maf doesnt 'adapt' for shit. that guy's running a mismatched halfass tune and is asking for trouble all over.

Are you fucking stupid? Research a fucking rom tune dumb ass. You don't have to change a JWT ATALL for ANYTHING except injectors or specialties like launch control and speed limit.

How much power does your shit box make there champ?

[Frank_Jaeger]

Originally Posted by 4nmscle

Are you fucking stupid? Research a fucking rom tune dumb ass. You don't have to change a JWT ATALL for ANYTHING except injectors or specialties like launch control and speed limit.

How much power does your shit box make there champ?

JWT is psychic and can provide a spot on ROM tune for your setup without being severely overly conservative from hundreds of miles away? Do you care about the longevity of your engine? Maximum performance? Neither? Then again, why bother when you can just throw 12k under the hood, am I right? Who gives a shit if you're not utilizing all of your power and get a shitty spool because your maps are all off. Show us the receipts.

[4nmscle]

Originally Posted by Frank_Jaeger

you do not need to be giving tuning advice to anyone. jesus christ.

edit: too fucking late. don't listen to this asshole, the maf doesnt 'adapt' for shit. that guy's running a mismatched halfass tune and is asking for trouble all over.

Goddamn you have got under my skin punk. Please show me one FUCKING PAGE that says you have to retune for ANYTHING except injector or maf change. JWT and Enthalpy dont even ask what turbo you run. They ask OCTANE, INJECTORS, AND MAF. That's it. So stfu and post up some numbers big boy. I'm anxious to see how your ride stacks up.