Donald Trump For President

[feito]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Your ignorance is all consuming.

How dare you! Im a dark skin latino, that makes you a fascist, a racist, a NAZI!!!!
See, that's the left's mentality right there.
And your city is in need of some reform really bad if you havent need an id or driver license for all those things you've listed.
Let me guess, your city has tent camps?

Democrats, the party of you must prove your innocence without there being a confirmed crime in the first place...

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by feito

How dare you! Im a dark skin latino, that makes you a fascist, a racist, a NAZI!!!!
See, that's the left's mentality right there.
And your city is in need of some reform really bad if you havent need an id or driver license for all those things you've listed.
Let me guess, your city has tent camps?

Democrats, the party of you must prove your innocence without there being a confirmed crime in the first place...

He's a fucking tool bag for sure.


Oh wait, did I just assume his gender?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

I have a driver's license. I grew up in a rural farming community and own two cars. Not everyone in cities grows up like I did.



Rampant (your spelling is not bad phone typing, it is a lack of education on your end) election fraud that has time and time proven to not be an issue, except in North Carolina where Republicans are altering voters' ballots?



Hmmm. It is almost like that's yet more projection.



But I understand, Trump voters don't know anything about the United States, what it stands for, government or history in general. Trump's people (and he himself) don't even know what the presidential seal looks like.







"45 is a puppet."



The only truth affiliated with Turning Point USA.

So you agree.

Voter ID should be mandatory. Need to stop those cheating nazi racists from committing voter fraud.

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by Corbic

I guess you've also never gone to a bar or a club either and you've never driven a car despite being on a 240sx website...


So we should allow the risk of rampet election fraud because some spoiled privliaged city dweller may not need an ID card and is to lazy/stupid to aqquire one?

Sure, that makes sense.

If Gbaby had to cite where the V2 was used on Americans, you need to cite the numbers of rampant election fraud.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by rvns14

If Gbaby had to cite where the V2 was used on Americans, you need to cite the numbers of rampant election fraud.

That was easy....

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

[silverarrow27]

As of today, I'll be voting for Trump come 2020. Democrats are too progressive pushing their socialist agendas. I live in CA where Democrats are always legislating new taxes or additional taxes on top of current ones. Never seen a change out of my 36 years of living here with these new taxes that are suppose to improve our infrastructure(roads, highways, bridges, etc...). Still tons of pot holes everywhere. Reports to Cal Trans are quickly responded to for pot holes, but two weeks later and the pot holes are back. Free healthcare to illegal immigrants. They may be testing a pilot program, pay-per-mileage, in San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. If successful, the state legislature will be pushing to put this on a statewide ballot eventually. I have a feeling it will pass because the people in SD, LA, and SF combine makes up for majority of the population of the state. So Californians will be paying the highest gas taxes in the nation, high vehicle registration, and may eventually be also paying 'per mile' driven in CA. Democrats are trying to peel small parts of Prop 13 away in the last election, I don't doubt they'll keep trying until they've completely gotten rid of Prop 13. A few months ago, I got one of those political surveys from a PAC for the DNC that asked about Prop 13 so I know that's going to be an ongoing issue. So decades of DNC rule in this state has pushed me to the right.

His pushing of Congress to do something about illegal immigration is fantastic. I'm a first generation American here with refugee immigrant parents. If my family had and can wait in line and come into the country properly due to genocide, everyone else can also.

Trade war with China, Trump may have his own hidden agenda. But I look at it as weakening China's globalization of loaning money to poor countries to take control of their resources, military expansion, and IP theft. And no, I try not to buy "Made in China" whenever I can and I've been doing so for the last decade. Not "everything" is made in China like a lot of people are still led to believe.

NAFTA 2.0 haven't been passed yet in Congress so no opinion here. But Trump's insistence of Mexico to curb illegal immigration or "else" seems to be working.

Trumps twitter tirades...he can definitely work on his social networking skills and his personality. He sounds like an idiot and an embarrassment to the USA when dealing in international relations. I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt that that's just the way he is and besides, it's great to have a bit of change of pace in international relations and domestic issues. Is it good or bad? Who knows...only time will tell.

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by Corbic

That was easy....

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Fake news, #crooked conservative media

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by Corbic

That was easy....

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Even DT's Voter Election Fraud Org/Committee found an infinitesimal amount a fraud. This is a red herring.

How would you suggest we move forward to solve the real issues we face if we are not using facts/actual knowledge to debate.

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Voter ID should be mandatory.

I'm okay with this if eligible voters are automatically enrolled and issued an ID, automatically updated/synced when moving primary residences, obtaining an ID is not an undue burden, and the security of our electoral infrastructure is strengthened with redundancies in place, such as paper ballots. Mitch recently blocked efforts for the latter, even after the Republican-led Senate report detailed significant intrusions into our electoral systems from Russia.

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by silverarrow27

As of today, I'll be voting for Trump come 2020. Democrats are too progressive pushing their socialist agendas. I live in CA where Democrats are always legislating new taxes or additional taxes on top of current ones. Never seen a change out of my 36 years of living here with these new taxes that are suppose to improve our infrastructure(roads, highways, bridges, etc...). Still tons of pot holes everywhere. Reports to Cal Trans are quickly responded to for pot holes, but two weeks later and the pot holes are back. Free healthcare to illegal immigrants. They may be testing a pilot program, pay-per-mileage, in San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. If successful, the state legislature will be pushing to put this on a statewide ballot eventually. I have a feeling it will pass because the people in SD, LA, and SF combine makes up for majority of the population of the state. So Californians will be paying the highest gas taxes in the nation, high vehicle registration, and may eventually be also paying 'per mile' driven in CA. Democrats are trying to peel small parts of Prop 13 away in the last election, I don't doubt they'll keep trying until they've completely gotten rid of Prop 13. A few months ago, I got one of those political surveys from a PAC for the DNC that asked about Prop 13 so I know that's going to be an ongoing issue. So decades of DNC rule in this state has pushed me to the right.

His pushing of Congress to do something about illegal immigration is fantastic. I'm a first generation American here with refugee immigrant parents. If my family had and can wait in line and come into the country properly due to genocide, everyone else can also.

Trade war with China, Trump may have his own hidden agenda. But I look at it as weakening China's globalization of loaning money to poor countries to take control of their resources, military expansion, and IP theft. And no, I try not to buy "Made in China" whenever I can and I've been doing so for the last decade. Not "everything" is made in China like a lot of people are still led to believe.

NAFTA 2.0 haven't been passed yet in Congress so no opinion here. But Trump's insistence of Mexico to curb illegal immigration or "else" seems to be working.

Trumps twitter tirades...he can definitely work on his social networking skills and his personality. He sounds like an idiot and an embarrassment to the USA when dealing in international relations. I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt that that's just the way he is and besides, it's great to have a bit of change of pace in international relations and domestic issues. Is it good or bad? Who knows...only time will tell.

He has been discussing ending birthright citizenship.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

I'm okay with this if eligible voters are automatically enrolled and issued an ID, automatically updated/synced when moving primary residences, obtaining an ID is not an undue burden, and the security of our electoral infrastructure is strengthened with redundancies in place, such as paper ballots. Mitch recently blocked efforts for the latter, even after the Republican-led Senate report detailed significant intrusions into our electoral systems from Russia.

If you can't get your own ID and Register to vote... then you should not be voting.

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Have you ever thought critically about a single thing in your life?



Also, as for guilty until proven innocent....Bill Clinton was impeached by a Republican house for getting a blowjob & lying about. Donald Trump committed obstruction of justice & hasn't had any impeachment hearings. Stop & frisk was popularized by Republicans. American citizens are held by ICE for weeks at a time.



You & Corbic are middle aged dudes who are watching the world changing and are deeply frightened by it.







Voter ID laws would not have prevented republican methods of voter fraud.







He can't, he'll resort to some extremely biased source like...







Bam. Right wing 'think tank', the NYU School of Law has this to say:



https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/voter-fraud







Under Trump's immigration policies your family would not have been allowed in the US.

Still waiting on that source that V2s killed many Americans.

https://youtu.be/6vvACYVm5BA

https://youtu.be/o7uo0NDtdgE

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[lewisfk]

WOW, reading through this makes my head hurt. Making people show I.D. to vote is not a bad idea, but throughout our history it has been used to suppress the vote of minorities and the poor. (poll tax etc) Each state wants to be sovereign, and that can lead to unnecessary and confusing voter I.D. laws. This also leads to discrimination! Regardless of your political views, you must look at the Constitution for guidance and apply the rule of law.

Q1) Did the citizen Trump ask for foreign help?

Q2) Did President Trump ask for foreign help?

Q3) Did he lie about business ventures in Russia?

Q4) Did he pay women during his campaign to silence them?

Q5) Does he make discouraging remarks about women and people of color?

If you feel the President did not do any of this, then why the endless lies? As an active duty member if I did any of these I would face NJP or even Court Martial. Robert Mueller's report states this. Allegations or Facts, history will judge us on the facts.


https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02...ed-boondoggle/

[lewisfk]

WOW, reading through this makes my head hurt. Making people show I.D. to vote is not a bad idea, but throughout our history it has been used to suppress the vote of minorities and the poor. (poll tax etc) Each state wants to be sovereign, and that can lead to unnecessary and confusing voter I.D. laws. This also leads to discrimination! Regardless of your political views, you must look at the Constitution for guidance and apply the rule of law.

Q1) Did citizen Trump ask for foreign help?

Q2) Did President Trump ask for foreign help?

Q3) Did he lie about business ventures in Russia?

Q4) Did he pay women during his campaign to silence them?

Q5) Does he make discouraging remarks about women and people of color?

If you feel the President did not do any of this, then why the endless lies? As an active duty member, if I did any of these I would face NJP or even Court Martial. Robert Mueller's report states this. Allegations or Facts, history will judge us on the facts.


https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02...ed-boondoggle/

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

WOW, reading through this makes my head hurt. Making people show I.D. to vote is not a bad idea, but throughout our history it has been used to suppress the vote of minorities and the poor. (poll tax etc) Each state wants to be sovereign, and that can lead to unnecessary and confusing voter I.D. laws. This also leads to discrimination! Regardless of your political views, you must look at the Constitution for guidance and apply the rule of law.

Q1) Did citizen Trump ask for foreign help?

Q2) Did President Trump ask for foreign help?

Q3) Did he lie about business ventures in Russia?

Q4) Did he pay women during his campaign to silence them?

Q5) Does he make discouraging remarks about women and people of color?

If you feel the President did not do any of this, then why the endless lies? As an active duty member, if I did any of these I would face NJP or even Court Martial. Robert Mueller's report states this. Allegations or Facts, history will judge us on the facts.


https://www.texastribune.org/2019/02...ed-boondoggle/

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

And you claim liberals/leftists (two very different entities) are the ones obsessed with team sports?

How many Americans died from V2 Missile Strikes?

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by Corbic

How many Americans died from V2 Missile Strikes?

..........and how many times are you going to continually sprout categorically and historically false information (without any citation) that Democrats and Progressives are Nazis and somehow leverage some pretzel logic tying this to Socialist??

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

I've stated I was wrong.

It is what adults do.

You have realized you're way out of your depths because you don't care about or understand politics, you just want 'your guy' to win.



He won't respond to that.

Or he'll post some weird boomer meme.

No one is a victim like a modern republican; how down trodden, how unfair can it be when you controlled at one point the legislative/exec/and judicial branches (at that point not getting it done is just incompetence)?

Asking the same v2 question and not responding when others ask questions is expected when defending an defensible position. They are full of sound and fury...

[silverarrow27]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

@silverarrow: How do you like this?

https://www.propublica.org/article/a...new-trump-rule

Maybe look beyond FU I GOT MINE.

Also, your roads in CA are better than my roads in WI. You also have many, many more people traveling them & many more roads in need of maintenance. Just because the 15 roads you drive most are not immaculate does not mean your taxes are being wasted.

Has nothing to do with "FU I GOT MINE". It sucks that Trump did to those people. It is what it is. Happens to American citizens for laws that gets implemented here too. Welcome to America!

Even if the 15 roads I drive most are not immaculate, they've been the same for the last 36 yrs I've lived here. No expansion, no repavement, pot holes just keeps getting half-ass filled, and roadways are developing more mid-size to large cracks now. Does it take more than 36 yrs to see SOMETHING improve/fixed for the taxes myself and many Californians have put towards it?

[silverarrow27]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Under Trump's immigration policies your family would not have been allowed in the US.

My family came here legitimately as refugees due to genocide committed by the "motherland" government. Not because of poverty or gangs as what I've been reading and watching a lot on all the news media channels.

Originally Posted by rvns14

He has been discussing ending birthright citizenship.

I know, nothing against it as long as its well written. I believe the terms so far that has been brought up is that one parent must be an American citizen. I'm not sure about legal permanent residents. But if you're here legally and even if your kids weren't given US citizenship right off the bat, the parents would just need to get naturalized before all their kids turn 18 to get automatic citizenship. We'll see if this latter part gets rewritten as well though.

[Corbic]

https://twitter.com/w_terrence/statu...865391104?s=09

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

I've been paying in taxes my whole life..

Lie, since you didn't pay for shit for at least 15 years. Also, "I pay taxes" is a slippery slope, since the majority of Americans don't pay shit into federal income taxes.

Your sales tax, gas tax, and other regional fees and surcharges are the local governments fault. It's nothing to do with T$.

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

The government keeps wasting it on wars, walls and putting children in cages.

Trump stopped the demand to expand conflict in Syria and held back bombing Iran recently. He was called a Russian Puppet by the left for this.

Obama implemented "childern in cages" in 2014. Only now its an issue. And stopping illegal. Immigration at the boarder is far cheaper then letting them in.

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

They're not fixing my roads.

Road funding is primarily driven by the state. So "childern in cages and bombing Iran" are not taking "road money".

You live in fucking Wisconsin. Your roads will always be shit because we have this thing called "winter" and "salted roads".

You will never have the roads like glass found in Florida or Texas.

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

, providing healthcare, etc., the Republicans aren't helping me. .

Nor are the Democrats. I thought Obama Care was going to fix everything? You finally passed the health care reform you wanted. You didn't even need to compromise as you shoved it through without bipartisan support... So why did healthcare prices fucking explode instead of come down?

Also, even now, Democrats don't give a shit. They'd rather expand medicare/caid to Illegal Aliens instead of finding a way to make it more affordable for working Americans. No, you'll just see a premium hike and tax increase to support it.

I can't think of a single talking point shared by Democrats that helps me in anyway.

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

,Here's the rub, unless you vote for people & policies, not just one party or the other, you'll never see that realized .

Which is why people voted for Trump. He's an outsider. He took massive flack from Republican establiment and was accused of not being a real Republican. He has a long history of social liberalism, Democratic support and not following traditional Rebulican and Neo-Con idealolgy.

This is also why the Democrats went hard to tank Bernie in 2016 and have destroyed Andrew Yang in this primary.

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

,

Also a key is seeing what is BS and what isn't. .

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

,

ZERO refugees allowed in is being floated by the Trump administration. That's you too, well it would be if you weren't grandfathered in and now being shitty about it.

Good. Fix Baltimore and the 2k homeless Childern living there before taking in more problems. Fix the drug crisis in Seattle and San Francisco, fix the Roads of Wisconsin.

There's enough Charity cases in the US to focus on for the next Hundred years. AMERICA FIRST BRUH

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

,Birthright citizenship is the way it should be. Everyone should understand that, but especially someone in your position. Don't be a selfish jerk.

End it. End Anchor Babies. End DACA.

It's not 1906 anymore. We now have a strained social welfare system, deficit that's out of this world, and millions upon millions of Americans, already here, that need guidence and support.

The period of great migration to the US prior to WW2 was during a time of great expanse. We needed millions of unskilled workers to fill out an empty country. To farm the land, to work in dangerous factories. We needed loggers and coal miners. Hell, in the 17th century we needed people so bad we brought them in chains as slaves and criminals.

The world had changed.

We now have an over population and housing crisis across this country as people flock to major cities to find jobs or hand outs. This isn't the industrial age where we need tens of thousands of unskilled workers to operate smelting plants for $2 a day. This is why people cry about free college so much, our modern economy requires skilled, trained and technical workers.

You want to live in a racist free, equal world? Start putting a priority on merit first again.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Your roads will always be shit because we have this thing called "winter" and "salted roads".

No man, the roads are shit because of Republicans and their v2 rockets

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope