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Youre an idiot and your attempts to project are hilarious.

Please keep going.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

If Ilhan Omar had come here from South Africa you'd still want her sent back because you're a racist.



You'd love her if she came from Russia...because fascist and she'd be white.



Again, you have no idea what a Nazi is and you show it through your use of shitty memes.



Nazis were not socialists. Everyone with any understanding of politics knows this.



Leftists do not hate Jewish people, the only people making these accusations are a SMALL percentage of Jewish clergy (remember, the Jewish population in America is one of the most liberal groups in the country) and far right extremists who believe control of Israel is critical to their view of Armageddon.



https://www.gq.com/story/anti-semiti...e4_cral-top1-2



Calling out human rights violations & mistreatment is very different from hate.



Remember, you guys are the ones shouting about sending American citizens to their ancestral homes. That's r a c i s m & hate right there.

Racist, racist, RACISTTT! Look at your own party, dude.

Ilhan Omar has clearly expressed hatred for Isreal/Jews, was in favor of reducing punishment for people who actually wanted to join ISIS, and downplayed 9/11 as "some people did something"

And the entire democratic party has DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT for months. Pelosi chalked it off as "her use of words" being different or some bullshit. They won't address the attempted bombing of the ICE facility earlier this week, they won't address antifa's violence, they won't address Ayanna Pressley's speech on not needing "brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice". So now they want politicians of color to base their decisions on the color of their skin and not their personal character and values. If you ever want to know if a leftist is spewing racial bullshit, replace black/brown/etc. with white and if it sounds like something that would be said at a KKK meeting then its racist. Example: "we don't need white faces that don't want to be a white voice"

The left is only against the racism that doesnt follow their political agenda.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Holy shit your facebook brain is terminal.



Stalin was not a communist. Pol Pot was not a communist. Etc.



No modern Leftist says OH HEY WE SHOULD BE MORE LIKE POL POT, STALIN, etc.

Maybe so, but they are saying we should be like Stalin, Mao, Fidel, and Venezuela...

So they are demanding the same socilism that Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Musolini wanted...

Why should we expect any different out come?

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Meanwhile you chuds are endlessly looking at Nazi activities/Nazis and thinking, yes, I like this.

I've never once mentioned anything remotely pro Socialist... So what the fuck you going on about?

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

WTF are you talking about?



If Ilhan Omar had come here from South Africa you'd still want her sent back because you're a racist.

Communism is a race now?

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

You'd love her if she came from Russia...because fascist and she'd be white.

Did you seriously just imply one of the most ethnicly diverse countries in the world, and the one that almost single handedly crushed global fascism is comprised of... White Fascists?


Them fucking blonde haired Aryan Nazis!!






Are you fucking retarded?

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Again, you have no idea what a Nazi is and you show it through your use of shitty memes.

Then how can I possibly be one or support them?

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Nazis were not socialists. Everyone with any understanding of politics knows this.

Dude.


Dude.....

The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both Marxist international socialism and free market capitalism. Nazism rejected the Marxist concepts of class conflict and universal equality, opposed cosmopolitan internationalism, and sought to convince all parts of the new German society to subordinate their personal interests to the "common good", accepting political interests as the main priority of economic organization.[4]

The Nazi Party's precursor, the Pan-German nationalist and antisemitic German Workers' Party, was founded on 5 January 1919. By the early 1920s the party was renamed the National Socialist German Workers' Party—to attract workers away from left-wing parties such as the Social Democrats (SPD) and the Communists (KPD)—and Adolf Hitler assumed control of the organization. The National Socialist Program or "25 Points" was adopted in 1920 and called for a united Greater Germany that would deny citizenship to Jews or those of Jewish descent, while also supporting land reform and the nationalization of some industries. In Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"; 1924–1925), Hitler outlined the anti-Semitism and anti-Communism at the heart of his political philosophy, as well as his disdain for representative democracy and his belief in Germany's right to territorial expansion.[5]

Like... Seriously


Dude





Doooooooood


Just shut the fuck up already.


The reason the left is always killing people, either as Nazis, Socialists, Communists or Marxist is pretty simple.

The left advocates intrusive Government and limitation on personal freedom for the "greater good". It also advocates siezure of personnel property - companies, factorys, farms and assets (taxes).

This results in a group of people apposing these ideas... And it's generally to the point of requiring force to make them comply.

Once the changes start to happen and the world doesn't become a Utopia, those in power find scape goats to blame so they can remain in power.

Capitalism gave us the United States, the most free, wealthiest, most prosperous, advanced, innovative and powerful country mankind has ever seen.

Marxism has give us 100 years of misery, suffering and industrialized murder greater then all previous wars and genocides from the last 5,000 years combined....

Seems pretty God damn fucking simple to see which idealolgy is the right choice.

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/zJBjjP8WSbc


Ironically, in America, being poor means you end up obesse....

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by Corbic

The left advocates intrusive Government and limitation on personal freedom for the "greater good". It also advocates siezure of personnel property - companies, factorys, farms and assets (taxes).

This results in a group of people apposing these ideas... And it's generally to the point of requiring force to make them comply.

Once the changes start to happen and the world doesn't become a Utopia, those in power find scape goats to blame so they can remain in power.

Capitalism gave us the United States, the most free, wealthiest, most prosperous, advanced, innovative and powerful country mankind has ever seen.

Marxism has give us 100 years of misery, suffering and industrialized murder greater then all previous wars and genocides from the last 5,000 years combined....

Seems pretty God damn fucking simple to see which idealolgy is the right choice.

The left believes that government needs to safeguard the rights of those who can be easily abused and to ensure that bodies of government work as best for as many members as possible, society. Lets talk about imminent domain. There are decades long lawsuits that are still in court over what is private property that would be intersected by the southern border. Is building a border wall assisting the greater good to you? Or is it big government intrusion. No government is perfect, what the democrats try to do is ensure that everyone has a voice at the table, we are all Americans.

You are correct that Utpoia is not achievable, because it is not possible, every one's idea of perfection is different. I think the main difference between the left and the right is the left wants to get involved with what it sees as a problem, those on the right a more hands off (ex. left wants to address directly climate change, right wants more evidence/wait and see?)

America is not a wholly capitalist society/economy and you and i wouldnt want one. I am no fan of Donald Trump and he would say he is a capitalist but even he (as a government official) told/took action to ground the Boeing 737max a/c until they were modified and vetted (and i dont disagree with his decision to get involved). No pure capitalism would have that happen. Capitalism would say that Boeing would repair these planes only when consumers demanded it by not flying on them. If the gov hadn't loaned the pentastar money in the 80's there would be no hellcats, no gladiators, no wranglers. If the gov hadn't lent ford money there would be no raptors, no voodoo v8s, no crown vics. It the gov hadn't lent gm money there would be no 60K c8.

At the end of the day, no one person is entirely one thing, no government should be entirely one thing. We can all agree that America is so widely admired and so sought after by others because America started with goals that the founders knew they couldn't /hadn't meet at the time, but were hopeful that future minds would and that all Americans could invest in a set of guiding principals. We didnt just end up in America, we choose to be here (generally). They knew the limitations of the technology of their time and left guidance open to interpretation as deemed by the people of that time. No one wants to change America's structure, founding principals, star spangled awesomeness; we want to make sure that people can debate and live how they want and not live in fear of medical induced bankruptcy, social marginalization or representative corruption.

[Corbic]

Doood


This muthafuka got more street cred then all y'all combined and you call him a racist. Shit.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[shinhed]

^This.

There are some folks in the thread who use Facebook memes and rhetoric as credible sources of news, but 'gbaby2089' definitely doesn't seem to be one of them.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by shinhed

^This.



There are some folks in the thread who use Facebook memes and rhetoric as credible sources of news, but 'gbaby2089' definitely doesn't seem to be one of them.

No, he's just a complete idiot who dodges everyone question and point.

He seriously tried to make a statement that Nazis are not Socialists.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by Corbic

No, he's just a complete idiot who dodges everyone question and point.

He seriously tried to make a statement that Nazis are not Socialists.

Nazi = Socialist is VERY misleading at the very least......False history at most. Hitler used the Socialist party as a stepping stone to spread his Nationalist Agenda.


Below is a little history lesson on the rise of Hitler, how he initially used the Socialist workers party in conjunction with propaganda, to later, cast all members of the Socialist party in prison and to break free to form his own Nationalist Party. . It was all part of Nationalist plan....

To say that Hitler understood the value of language would be an enormous understatement. Propaganda played a significant role in his rise to power. To that end, he paid lip service to the tenets suggested by a name like National Socialist German Workers’ Party, but his primary—indeed, sole—focus was on achieving power whatever the cost and advancing his racist, anti-Semitic agenda. After the failure of the Beer Hall Putsch, in November 1923, Hitler became convinced that he needed to utilize the teetering democratic structures of the Weimar government to attain his goals.

Over the following years the brothers Otto and Gregor Strasser did much to grow the party by tying Hitler’s racist nationalism to socialist rhetoric that appealed to the suffering lower middle classes. In doing so, the Strassers also succeeded in expanding the Nazi reach beyond its traditional Bavarian base. By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies. Otto Strasser soon recognized that the Nazis were neither a party of socialists nor a party of workers, and in 1930 he broke away to form the anti-capitalist Schwarze Front (Black Front). Gregor remained the head of the left wing of the Nazi Party, but the lot for the ideological soul of the party had been cast.

Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act. In April 1933 communists, socialists, democrats, and Jews were purged from the German civil service, and trade unions were outlawed the following month

The abstract above was taken from Britannica, a middle of the road unbiased Factual Source

Were the Nazis Socialists?

Media Bias/Fact Check Encyclopedia Britannica



Hitler and as extensions NAZIs were NEVER a Socialist party at heart, or had a socialist agenda. Just used poor and uneducated blue collard folks misfortune to gain their trust.......

And as they said, the rest is history. And history tends to repeat itself....

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Nazi = Socialist is VERY misleading at the very least......False history at most. Hitler used the Socialist party as a stepping stone to spread his Nationalist Agenda.


Below is a little history lesson on the rise of Hitler, how he initially used the Socialist workers party in conjunction with propaganda, to later, cast all members of the Socialist party in prison and to break free to form his own Nationalist Party. . It was all part of Nationalist plan....




The abstract above was taken from Britannica, a middle of the road unbiased Factual Source

Were the Nazis Socialists?

Media Bias/Fact Check Encyclopedia Britannica



Hitler and as extensions NAZIs were NEVER a Socialist party at heart, or had a socialist agenda. Just used poor and uneducated blue collard folks misfortune to gain their trust.......

And as they said, the rest is history. And history tends to repeat itself....

So just like the Democrats?


And just an FYI, the economy they built was very much a Socialist economy, so you are arguing symantics.

The end result is the same, an extreme progressive political agenda designed to tear down the past, coupled with extensive propaganda, identy politics, "Us vs Them" and an extremely intrusive Government without checks or balances.

https://youtu.be/NxwidjWJxAc

[RalliartRsX]

Nationalism and Nazi fascists is the opposite of what the Dems represent at the core as the majority of the Democratic party is made up of Liberals and Progressives.

The Socialist economy (in Germany) was in place WELL before the rise of the Nazi party. This came about because Germany was demoralized after losing WWI. Absolutely NOTHING to do with what Hilter and his fascist regime they built AFTER the fact. Actually quiet the contrary. No one is arguing it WASNT a socialist economy. History has made that very clear. However, it is what Hitler used as "cover" for his Fascist regime until he casted out all the socialist and imprisoned the rest. NOT semantics.

Corbic, I think you are fairly confused.......

Did you even bother to read what is historically correct??

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Nationalism and Nazi fascists is the opposite of what the Dems represent at the core as the majority of the Democratic party is made up of Liberals and Progressives.

Wrong. A policy by policy comparison will show this. You are trying to use the classical term "liberal" (freedom) but this is no longer the case of the modern left.

Nazis are/were "Progressive".

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Did you even bother to read what is historically correct??

I litterally just gave you a video of a brief dissect from the writings of an actual Marxist who lived in Nazi Germany.

I think you are the one that's confused, you only need to watch a speech from Hitler himself to listen to him ramble on about the horrors of capitalists.

Major issues Shared Between the Two:

Pro Abortion
Anti-Gun
Anti Religion (except Islam)
Pro-Pseudo Science
Pro-Censorship
Pro-"political correctness" / speech control
Pro-Socialist Economy
Pro- Union
Pro Government Intervention with Industry
Pro Identitrianism (damn Jews/Slavs : Cis White Men)
Pro Globalism (Single World Government)
Racist (Gas the Jews / Brown People to stupid need Government)

So when you say "oh but Hitler was not really a Marxist, he just manipulated the hordes of illerate communists and Socialists to do his bidding and sieze power", well that looks a lot like this...



Bunch of stupid white communists trying to rile up the brown masses to sieze power and install an even larger, more intrusive Government.

What I can also say about the modern left :




The reason they hate "America" and our culture is because it's a barrier to them seizing perpetual power with the Government being the sole source of aligence.

It's just like the Nazi SS or People's Liberation Army (China's Army), their aligence is not to the people or the Nation, but to the political party.

https://youtu.be/PzRg--jhO8g

Fucking Fascist Pig.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Corbic, you need to stop looking at racist facebook groups for your sources of what liberals/leftists are seeking in 2019.

Also, it is deeply comical how misplaced your accusations of fascism and dedication to party over country are.

I saw a man wearing a TRUMP/PUTIN 2020 shirt this weekend, with a TRUMP 2020 hat on. These are your people:



I've voted for democrats, independents and even a few republicans. I doubt you can say the same.

So your rebuttal is to just change the topic completely?

What does my voting record or a meme t-shirt (a joke that clearly went over your head) have to do with the arguments at hand?

Are you saying this video is a CG Meme made by Facebook Racists to smeer the DNC?

https://youtu.be/WnZxJy6J-0o

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic, within the first 2 mins of your video, Günter Reimann (Marxist Socialist) refers to National Socialist Germany as Fascist. This was categorically refuted by TIK. They are NOT one in the same as you constantly seeming state.

Again, Hitler Nazi took leveraged the Socialist party as its mouthpiece to spread Nazi propaganda. When he rose to power, he banished, imprisoned and murdered Socialist prior to bringing to the forefront the Nazi party. That is not what a Socialist party does.

For whatever reason, you are hell bent on consistently stating this falsehood (Socialist = Nazi), and using this very same falsehood and some bizarre pretzel logic, linking this to the modern day Democratic party (which is mostly made up of Progressive and Liberals) by making a list of incorrect links of support between two parties by stating Progressives = Nazis). It's almost as if you refuse to embrace facts and history....

I do not know where to take this discussion at this point. I simply cannot be angry all the time

[feito]

democrats, the party that brought you penalties for tax-paying legal citizens who didnt have insurance but will be offering free health care to non-tax paying illegal immigrants...
Also, funny how lefties put so much emphasis on skin color. I tell you, the most racist insults Ive received come from lefties when they discover that me, a dark skin latino, votes right. Pretending to be "white" they say... I guess in their mind you gotta vote according to your ethnicity and skin color, go figure
They not only accept, but force the rest of us to accept the idea that if a person pretends to be of the opposite sex we MUST all go along with their little game, but god forbid you act CRAZY by voting right if youre a latino or even an immigrant
BTW, did everybody hear about trumps plan on food stamps? I reaaaally wish this goes through and maybe even gets a bit further by drug testing all recipients. I live in the poor side of town, and see with my own eyes how bad the system is being abused. That shit has gone too far.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by feito

democrats, the party that brought you penalties for tax-paying legal citizens who didnt have insurance but will be offering free health care to non-tax paying illegal immigrants...
Also, funny how lefties put so much emphasis on skin color. I tell you, the most racist insults Ive received come from lefties when they discover that me, a dark skin latino, votes right. Pretending to be "white" they say... I guess in their mind you gotta vote according to your ethnicity and skin color, go figure
They not only accept, but force the rest of us to accept the idea that if a person pretends to be of the opposite sex we MUST all go along with their little game, but god forbid you act CRAZY by voting right if youre a latino or even an immigrant
BTW, did everybody hear about trumps plan on food stamps? I reaaaally wish this goes through and maybe even gets a bit further by drug testing all recipients. I live in the poor side of town, and see with my own eyes how bad the system is being abused. That shit has gone too far.

This is what the Left should really be afraid of. I follow sooooo many POC on IG that are trump supporters. The movements are real. People are opening their eyes.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Cool, you have black internet friends? Weird flex but okay.

From Cornell:

8% of African-Americans voted for Donald Trump.

89% of African-Americans voted for Hillary Clinton.

Is this like when you guys declare record numbers of voters turned out to vote for Donald Trump even though less people voted for him than Hillary? (Or ever voted for Obama)

I could have wrote your response for you. You go ahead and believe what you want. We’ll see what 2020 brings. You guys were so right in ‘16 soooooo.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

I had a bad feeling Trump would win in 2016.



Many people did.



I have a bad feeling he'll win again in 2020.



That doesn't mean he's popular like you guys think he is, nor does it mean he & the rest of the Republican party do not embrace heavily anti-democratic views.



Also, if Republicans have such a strong hold on minority votes, why do they keep working hard to suppress those very same voters?



You knew I was going to say what I did because my posts are based in verifiable facts.



Facts bear repeating, it is that simple.



Fascism is on the rise globally, the US' institutions are not strong enough to survive that if its voters are as ignorant as they seem.

Yeah sure...

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Yeah sure...

You forgot buying groceries, truly a man of the people https://youtu.be/XKWNsVlc3dc

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I could have wrote your response for you. You go ahead and believe what you want. We’ll see what 2020 brings. You guys were so right in ‘16 soooooo.

Da comrade, no one saw that coming, GTFO with that assertion and go polish your crystal ball some more.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by midnight zenki

You forgot buying groceries, truly a man of the people https://youtu.be/XKWNsVlc3dc

Well... When all they are doing is using Food Stamps and buying Cigarettes, Alcohol, Sudafed and Vape Juice.... All of those need ID.

Let's not forget , Disability Checks, Payday Advance, Rent A Center, Boost Mobile, Rim Renterz, School Lunch, Foster Care, Court Hearings, Medical Weed, Planned Parenthood.... List goes on.

But when it comes to voting, colored people are so stupid and so disadvantage they can't possibly present an ID card to vote. Those evil racist Nazis! Clearly a conspiracy to stop them dumb, incompetent, inept, helpless, marginalized POC whole lack any sense of self agency.

But yes, Republicans are the Racists.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Not everyone does....any....of those things.

And also not all of those require an ID. It is entirely possible to live in a major city and never once need an ID.

I live in a major city, to get my apartment I didn't need an ID. When I applied to grad school & accepted financial aid, I didn't need an ID. My utilities account has no ID tied to it. The only time I used an ID for my bank account was setting it up, if my parents had set it up for me as a kid...no ID would've been needed. Live somewhere with a decent public transport system? Don't need an ID. I have a bus pass on my phone & that required ZERO ID.

Banking? Ally.com online banking, boom. I apply for credit cards online, no ID needed.

And on & on & on.

Rural America is not the only America.

I guess you've also never gone to a bar or a club either and you've never driven a car despite being on a 240sx website...


So we should allow the risk of rampet election fraud because some spoiled privliaged city dweller may not need an ID card and is to lazy/stupid to aqquire one?

Sure, that makes sense.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope