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Old 11-04-2008, 11:08 PM   #151
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I'm tired of the fucking race card and "the man" Is keeping us down.

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I hope yall dont honestly think him being elected is going to stop the race card from being pulled. As long as racism exists, the race card is goin to be pulled. Its goin to take a hell of alot more than that to stop the race card.

I gurantee you that black people who were "celebrating" got arrested tonight, gurantee you that some of those people pulled the race card.

I've never pulled it, and hope I dont have to. It would have to be a significant amount of evidence that it was race related for me to pull that card.


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i would like see an official citation (from an authorized source) on where you got that information about "what's considered upper class." thanks, don't tell me to search it myself. you're the one that stated it.
YouTube - Obama: families making $97,000 are "upper class" and should pay more taxes
how 'bout the horses mouth?

i will admit, he said that in november of '07. (so the timeline is off) he then switched it to $250k. then to $150k. most recent is $120k. if the pattern continues, mccain is correct. he will re-define "upper class", and screw ALOT more people over.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:12 PM   #155
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written by a friend who'll remain anonymous.. couldn't have worded my thoughts better than he.

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Tonight might very well be the last night of the world as I know it. In 24 hours, they'll be tallying ballots and the news will eagerly show the end of one of the most significant presidential races in American history...

I can't help but feel an overwhelming sense of dread about the whole ordeal. It feels so uneasy. I'm bothered by the amount of people who have no clue what they're voting about, the vast amount of Blacks who are voting simply because a candidate looks like they do, and with a false sense that this eloquent, hope-filled man will somehow bring them to the promised land that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed about. How they believe he is for them, and how suddenly, they'll be able to see the entire struggle of the Black race come full circle.

I'm bothered that so many Christians have been so completely blind-sided into sealing their own fate... how they can campaign and post pictures of a party that hates what they believe in, and sees their belief system as nothing but hypocritical lies told to control them and make them complacent. How can they help to usher in a time where they will be eventually be prosecuted for their faith. How can they ignore the examples that have already been set in motion? It defies logic, especially given how many warnings exist in the Bible about the persecution of Christians during the end of the world.

Tomorrow, Prop 8 won't pass, and although so many are so short-sighted to simply believe it to only be about marriage, time will show that it was only the next step on the agenda's ladder. What was once simply written off as something that was done in the privacy of people's bedrooms has now become something that no one can avoid or escape. It's simply thrust upon without your choosing. Soon, having the opinion that homosexuality is wrong will simply get you labeled a bigot and a person filled with hate, regardless of what rational ideas you have to support your stance, and eventually the problems facing churches in Mass. will be held nationwide as Gays grow fed up with these places preaching hate.

After tomorrow, Obama will take office, and eventually the Democrats will shift the balance of the entire democracy of the US to one side after they manage to successfully takeover the senate and put an end to our system of checks and balances. With that, we will see changes that will certainly shift our economic system as well as social issues. The American public has become drunk on promises. Intoxicated with looking at politics at face value. We do not realize that Obama's "tax cuts" are simply more government handouts, a system that is already so broken and taken advantage of, that it costs the country millions of dollars.

After tomorrow, taxes will raise for everyone because there's simply no way 95% of America can receive tax cuts when we are trillions of dollars in debt, and Obama said during his primary debates that "raising taxes was the fair thing to do" when asked about why he intended to raise capital gain taxes.

Clearly McCain and Palin are not much better, and it's why I go to sleep tonight without anticipation of heading to the voting booth. I'm only voting on policies. I see no point in choosing the same of two evils. It's like choosing between drowning in the ocean or a lake. Different places, different water, maybe even a different experience, but still the same result. I realize that the things I care about the most do not really matter in the eyes of the collective majority. I realize that this concept of hope and change and progress is nothing of the sort, and how we'll be dealing with a new set of problems on top of the ones we already have. For now, I'm just a spectator waiting to get his kicks by saying "I told you so".

And of course, I could be 100% wrong about everything, and things really could change, and if ever I wanted to be wrong about something, this would certainly be it...

But that's not very realistic now, is it.
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anybody else catch the irony of thousands of christians/catholics vote for someone whose beliefs are opposed to by the other? we've sealed our fate! the beginning of the end of the world begins.. *sinister laugh*

..and the gays! sodom and gomorrah was a city destroyed by god because of fornication and homosexuality. PROP 8?

hmmm.. coincidence? i hope so! i want to see my car finished before i die..

You post that and expect people not to take it serious, ha good luck with that.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:14 PM   #158
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Ok I am going to speak up. I personally did not like a lot of what Obama was saying. Though it was impressive that he got out the vote more so than anytime in the last 60 years. That is both amazing and a good thing. Why? Because basically it has caused the American people to finally stop being apathetic about voting. It also showed a lot of people that their vote counts. Now regardless of them being dumb or ignorant of things,it will cause them to vote again in the future and maybe in a more informed way.

Also before people start with the sky is falling. I want to state something mentioned by a political analyst. Basically two things need to be kept in mind.

The Democrats will have to be careful in pushing the Democratic agenda if they go to far then in two years in the Senate elections tables will be turned. It happened in the Clinton administration.

Obama is still inheriting the economic situation as well. There is no room for raising tax's until the U.S, returns to a growth economy. That is almost 3 years out at the soonest.
If things do not turn around in the next 4 years then American voters will turn on him. This happened in California with the Govenator . He was voted in promising change from the mess that Pete Wilson inherited and made worse. He was not able to fulfill a lot of his promises and his popularity has sunk.
Obama will most likely move closer to center than people realize for the sake of running the country.
In the end we will see but its not the end of the World. I hope he is able to do the right things and not be as socialist sounding as he was in his campaign.
Of course most candidates do not make good on any of their campaign promises anyways.

Oh and for edacious about the bailout plan. Ah we dodged the bullet on going into a depression because of it. You may not like but it saved our asses. Oh and do not even compare us to Japan in the late 80's. Japan's financial system is ten times worse than ours is our could ever be. There are so many back door deals and graft its crazy compared to the problems we have. Seriously.

In the end Its time to move forward people and work towards our future. Lets put the differences and dislike behind us. The U.S. is not going to change tomorrow. Its not going to change that much in 4 years. Bush has done a good job of destroying our position in the world lets hope Obama can make it more positive.
i unfortunately like this answer lol. Come on people, socialism is not a fixed doctrine. Don't be afraid of Obama "sounding" like a socialist, America is still far away of being a "socialist country." Congratulations to the democratic party for taking up most of the three branches.
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heres your change...
fartsniffing ecogangster mafia is going to rip your turbo, nitro, catback and every part that makes noise or drinks too much off your car,
take any and all weapons that you would use to hunt or protect yourself,
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tax you some more,
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tell you you cant say things you have the right to say,
ALSO AND I QUOTE'' THE WHITE MAN IS INHERANTLY EVIL AND WILL BURN IN HELL.'' NU QUOTE FROM MISS BARRAKS MOUTH,
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where the fuck is the rest of your sentence?

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I think all the people who don't like Obama are panicking for nothing.

We'll see though.
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My joking in my previous point aside..

What is the point of this thread? Obama won. Either you like it or you don't... Now live your life, fend for yourself and your loved ones the best you can, and fuck anyone who tries to stop you.

The election is over. Time to go back to the real world... Where politics doesn't mean shit and the day that it does is likely the day you'll wish you had that gun.

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Call me whatever you want... It should not be just that. He was elected president. His racial origin is black/african/whatever the PC term may be blah blah blah.... What does that affect at all? See what I'm getting at? Getting all "ZOMGOMG!!!!!!11111 a BLACK PRESIDENT!!!!????!11119393432" is just the reverse of playing the race card in its typical negative sense, but with the same result... The race card is played in the end.
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The thing is, educated voters heavily favored Obama and the democratic party in the past...and god forbid a guy inspires the apathetic youth of today to care for something...
i say we up the voting age to 25. then we will have a much higher percentage of people that actually contribute to society and deal with taxes, healthcare, etc. the people that are actually directly effected by whom is in office. not the money sucking leetches that are the vast majority of college students (or college age people. myself included). the people that dont deal with their own health care. the people that dont have real jobs and pay real taxes. dont own homes or have investments. dont worry about insurance. the people that spend the majority of their income (very small income) on car parts, or the latest rainbow colored shoes nike is making and calling "rare". how 'bout that idea?
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you guys needa get over it.. either canidates would have been good.
Go to sleep, wake up tomarrow, guess what, nothing changed.. Will take some time, and it wont be drastic enough to freak out about.
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i unfortunately like this answer lol. Come on people, socialism is not a fixed doctrine. Don't be afraid of Obama "sounding" like a socialist, America is still far away of being a "socialist country." Congratulations to the democratic party for taking up most of the three branches.
This is where I put out a response that people will label as smug and arrogant and whatever. LOL

You don't like liking my answer because believe it or not, I tend to speak from a place of thought, analysis and fact. Most people can't stand that when they cannot and it makes them feel small.
I am sorry if my statements make some people feel small. I only speak when there is a point to be made a fact to be stated and information that needs correcting.

Hate me for it. You could do worse.

Oh and Nancy Pelosi is still a jackass and needs to shut the fuck up.
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drift freaq demonstrated quite well how "the truth hurts" haha.

And yes, Socialism IS a fixed doctrine: It refers to a group of economic concepts of social organization that promote state and/or collective ownership, as well as administration, of the means of production of goods and distribution of wealth, and the founding of an egalitarian society.
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"Change has coem to AMERICA"
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:38 PM   #174
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:41 PM   #175
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man just put clinton back as president haha
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:44 PM   #177
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:59 PM   #178
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seriously why is everyone throwing a fit?

nothing has happened yet.

Obama hasn't made any changes to anything yet.

sure he may have promised this or that for his term, but in all honesty, has there ever been a president who actually delivers 100% of what he promised in his campaign?

campaigns are to pick up voters and get elected, they are not necessarily a checklist of things to instate once elected.

the truth is, who knows what he is and isn't going to do?

everyone can start fleeing to canada and/or bitching about his policies AFTER they're actually in place, not because they THINK they know what he's actually going to do once in the white house.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:59 PM   #179
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i supported for obama..

and like he said...

"Change has coem to AMERICA"
Yeah......... and look what happened when change had "coem" to the Soviet Union.
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:09 AM   #180
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change coems to a lot of places, both good and bad
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