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Old 08-17-2008, 09:14 PM   #241
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I hope I stop hearing how the rest of the world is catching
up to the USA in terms of basketball talent. This "Redeem Team"
is smashing teams left and right, and they haven't really played a
full game of consistency. This team is just too athletic, and 5+ players
can take over a game at any given time.
I think the rest of the world is catching up, but only individual players, not teams. The world has the talent now, but the USA has the talent in larger numbers.
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anyone have the link where i could watch the usa vs spain bball?


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this usa team is way above & beyond any nba all star team.

and to see spain hang on there just shows how tuff they are.


i really wanted to see what this rubio hype is all about, but usa pushed pressure D on the pgs he couldn't show much.
i still cant believe this kid is only 17 and is gonna be the top draft pick next summer.
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Fucking gymnastics is rigged. Fei Cheng (China)
fell to her knees on the vault, yet managed to get
a score of 15.62, while Alicia Sacramone only did a hop,
but got 15.53, taking her off the medal podium. I'm glad
Bela Carolyi is lashing out about it, since all the journalists
are afraid of speaking out against China. Bela said that throughout
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:05 AM   #246
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Seriously, it's crazy. Blah, sucks for her.
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:30 AM   #247
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all I caught today for gymnastics was the floor stuff. Was there more before that? Took a nap and forgot all about it

Starting to like Nastia more and more.
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:32 AM   #248
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The vault exercise was before. Nastia... I love that name,
her too.

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Old 08-18-2008, 03:22 AM   #249
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I hope I stop hearing how the rest of the world is catching
up to the USA in terms of basketball talent.

Are they really saying this?


Do they not have the ability to see?
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Well, they said it because of how the USA didn't
win the gold in the past world competitions, dating back
to 2000, as they usually do.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:06 AM   #251
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all I caught today for gymnastics was the floor stuff. Was there more before that? Took a nap and forgot all about it

Starting to like Nastia more and more.
She still looks like she could stare right through you, where as her teamate (shawn johnson) looks like she doesn't have one care in the world.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:37 AM   #252
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Fucking gymnastics is rigged. Fei Cheng (China)
fell to her knees on the vault, yet managed to get
a score of 15.62, while Alicia Sacramone only did a hop,
but got 15.53, taking her off the medal podium. I'm glad
Bela Carolyi is lashing out about it, since all the journalists
are afraid of speaking out against China. Bela said that throughout
all the Olympics he's seen, he has never seen anything like this.

Seriously, so fucking rigged! I'm glad Bela Karolyi said that the Chinese where cheating on Live TV.

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Old 08-18-2008, 10:40 AM   #253
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Fucking gymnastics is rigged. Fei Cheng (China)
fell to her knees on the vault, yet managed to get
a score of 15.62, while Alicia Sacramone only did a hop,
but got 15.53, taking her off the medal podium. I'm glad
Bela Carolyi is lashing out about it, since all the journalists
are afraid of speaking out against China. Bela said that throughout
all the Olympics he's seen, he has never seen anything like this.

I watched that one. Bullshit. Anything with judges is rigged, they all hate us anyway and we are ignorant to think politics don't influence the scores. I will however admit that the american girls were sloppy in some of the events but this crap is ridiculous. The sports with timers etc are awesome because no matter how much they hate us...we still kick their asses and there is nothing the world can do about it
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:49 AM   #254
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Man, IMO Russia did a better job in the W omen's all around Gymnastics. They should have gotten Bronze instead of China. At least they where STICKING there landings.
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Béla Károlyi called the Chinese gymnasts "half people".

Cheng Fei had a much higher difficulty value than Sacramone (.7 of a point I believe) and that factors greatly into scoring, also since the FIG want to encourage harder routines and judge accordingly.

Take it for what its worth.
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I know about start value and that, but from what I
remember, falling is a .8 deduction, yet she wins by
a .09 margin over someone who landed the vault and
did one hop, which is either a .1 or .3 deduction, depending
how big of a hop or step.
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Man, IMO Russia did a better job in the W omen's all around Gymnastics. They should have gotten Bronze instead of China. At least they where STICKING there landings.
Exactly. Even that old German chick did better.


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I know about start value and that, but from what I
remember, falling is a .8 deduction, yet she wins by
a .09 margin over someone who landed the vault and
did one hop, which is either a .1 or .3 deduction, depending
how big of a hop or step.
That's the new math. Get with the program. You for got to deduct points for being an American It all makes sense now.
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It's official. Olympic gymnastics is rigged.
Nastia Liukin was ROBBED of the gold medal.
Absolutely ROBBED. Kexin and Liuikin had the same
start value, and final score, yet Kexin had absolutely
more noticeable errors then Liukin, including a not-so-perfect
dismount landing, where Nastia nailed hers. The damn tie-breaker
gave the gold to Kexin, and even though the tie-breaker awarded
the right person, it never should have been a tie in the first place.

Fuck the judging.

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Old 08-19-2008, 12:40 AM   #259
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USA vs China baseball gets VERY physical

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^You mean vs China.
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that was awesome

i wish nastia would fuck those judges up...and those little chinese second graders
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^You mean vs China.
hahah shit yea i did

Forgive me I just got home from studying 7hrs straight, just a bit brain dead. My head literally feels heavy.
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wow. that was some crazy shit

they just straight ran them over. haha

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HAHAHA my roommates are from Hong Kong and they were telling me how the government issues fake ID's to Olympic contestants....
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HAHAHA my roommates are from Hong Kong and they were telling me how the government issues fake ID's to Olympic contestants....
I don't think there's a question about faking documents
such as ID's, birth certificates, etc. Those gymnasts look
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they just straight ran them over.
It's legal in baseball to do that when the catcher is over the plate.
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It's official. Olympic gymnastics is rigged.
Nastia Liukin was ROBBED of the gold medal.
Absolutely ROBBED. Kexin and Liuikin had the same
start value, and final score, yet Kexin had absolutely
more noticeable errors then Liukin, including a not-so-perfect
dismount landing, where Nastia nailed hers. The damn tie-breaker
gave the gold to Kexin, and even though the tie-breaker awarded
the right person
, it never should have been a tie in the first place.

Im sorry, but your post confuses me.... do you think that kexin should have won or liukin?
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Im sorry, but your post confuses me.... do you think that kexin should have won or liukin?
What I mean that, with the circumstances, the tie-breaker
awarded the right person and did the job it was suppose to,
due to the scores they got, BUT, that tie NEVER should have
happened in the first place. I hope that's clearer to understand.

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A complete score is now made up of two parts, A and B. The first, the A score, or the start value, is an assigned degree of difficulty.I n this instance, both He and Liukin had the same start value, 7.7.

The second part of a score, the B score, is an execution score. Six judges vote. The high and the low are tossed per the rules.
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That leaves four scores. Those four are averaged. That average becomes the B score. Add the A and B together and you get a complete score.

In this instance, both He and Liukin got 16.725.

Thus: onto tiebreakers.

The first tiebreak is the B score. Here both got the same B score, 9.025.

The next tiebreak: the judges drop the next highest deduction. That obviously leaves three judges' scores instead of four -- or to be precise, the marks those three judges gave for deductions.

Here, the average of those three judges' deductions for He: .933. For Liukin: .966.

Liukin had a greater deduction. Thus she was second.

Another way of getting to that math: Take the B scores of the three judges from that second tie-break, add them together and divide by three.

The math for He: 9.1, 9.1, 9.0. That equals 27.2. Divide that by three, and that equals 9.066, the sixes stretching out to infinity.

For Liukin: 9.1, 9.0, 9.0. That equals 27.1. Divide that by three and it's 9.0333, the threes going out forever.

Thus she was second.
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O, ok, yea the tie breaker did work, but that shit was gay. That and liukin is kinda hott.... especially with how flexible she is.
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You can blame the Australian judge for the resulting tie.
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The Australian judge did deduct a lot more
from Nastia, when Kexin should have had
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