z32 tranny into a s14

[yankee_TOP-END]

hey ! I have a big question here , I was hopping to get some hints from you!

Im planning to drop a 300zx turbo auto/tranny in my s14 97 is this possible ? what would I need to make this kind of swap??

[brndck]

a z32 tranny, mazworks adaptor, driveshaft (most likely custom), tranny cooler and lines, atf, trans x-member (also most likely custom). shift linkage may work, may need to be modified. try searching, or check with mazworks to see what they recommend.

[sac]

you want to drop a automatic z32 trans into a s14? Guess for DD reasons? Or for Bracket/competition drag racing? dunno.. i am going with the 5 speed. MazworX makes a kit to adapt the 5 speed. You could check to see if they could make the auto work but it might cost you a bit more $.
www.mazworx.com/

[g6civcx]

Start here: http://www.mazworx.com/

[projectRDM]

Originally Posted by yankee_TOP-END

hey ! I have a big question here , I was hopping to get some hints from you!

Im planning to drop a 300zx turbo auto/tranny in my s14 97 is this possible ? what would I need to make this kind of swap??

Though I'm not certain, I'd say it's just as easy as a bellhousing swap. The Z32 non turbo automatic transmission is the exact same unit used in the 240SX, so you can use it in a 240 by just swapping the bellhousing as a direct replacement. Harness is the same, plugs are the same, etc.
If the TT auto is designed the same way, the same should hold true for it. I guess your first step is to verify that the bellhousing is the same length on a TT unit, if so you're gold for fitment, just might have to make a crossmember or shorten the driveshaft depending on where they line up to the TT case.

[spanishricer]

Did Mazworx ever work out the kinks in the mounting that make it so you have to cut a notch in your console so you can engage 4th gear?

[sac]

Originally Posted by spanishricer

Did Mazworx ever work out the kinks in the mounting that make it so you have to cut a notch in your console so you can engage 4th gear?

^ are you talking about the 5 speed z32 trans? I have only heard of having to notch the body of the car. Where the shifter comes into the passenger compartment. Not the console. Notching the console would look ugly as fu*k.

[yankee_TOP-END]

Originally Posted by projectRDM

Though I'm not certain, I'd say it's just as easy as a bellhousing swap. The Z32 non turbo automatic transmission is the exact same unit used in the 240SX, so you can use it in a 240 by just swapping the bellhousing as a direct replacement. Harness is the same, plugs are the same, etc.
If the TT auto is designed the same way, the same should hold true for it. I guess your first step is to verify that the bellhousing is the same length on a TT unit, if so you're gold for fitment, just might have to make a crossmember or shorten the driveshaft depending on where they line up to the TT case.

I wanna have this 240sx for drag racing , does the auto tranny from the z32 non turbo can hold the KA24DET with a T28 @ 10psi ???, sso this mean that It should just to plug and play with the gear box ??? the bellhousing should be the same right ???

[spanishricer]

Originally Posted by sac

^ are you talking about the 5 speed z32 trans? I have only heard of having to notch the body of the car. Where the shifter comes into the passenger compartment. Not the console. Notching the console would look ugly as fu*k.

Someone that installed the Z32 tranny in his S13 said he had to cut an additional 3/4 hole for 4th gear over on Freshalloy. I would assume this would hold true for the S14?

[sac]

Originally Posted by spanishricer

Someone that installed the Z32 tranny in his S13 said he had to cut an additional 3/4 hole for 4th gear over on Freshalloy. I would assume this would hold true for the S14?

had to cut the car body? or the console? I would fuckin return the kit if i had to cut the console and tell the fucker to give me my money back. I want to keep my interior balla..

[spanishricer]

Originally Posted by sac

had to cut the car body? or the console? I would fuckin return the kit if i had to cut the console and tell the fucker to give me my money back. I want to keep my interior balla..

The console. I went back to the original thread to copy the pics here, but he must have deleted them off his photobucket. Bunch of red x's now.

[yankee_TOP-END]

does the auto tranny from the z32 non turbo can hold the KA24DET with a T28 @ 10psi ? so the bellhousing is the same for the z32 and s14 automatics????

[GSXRJJordan]

^^^ That's a question you'd have to ask some drag race teams. My guess is yes, with a different torque converter (you'd want a high-stall anyway)... What that means is that the auto tranny from a 240 would be the same unit = pick it up for free from someone who did a 5spd swap and give it a shot.

[yankee_TOP-END]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

^^^ That's a question you'd have to ask some drag race teams. My guess is yes, with a different torque converter (you'd want a high-stall anyway)... What that means is that the auto tranny from a 240 would be the same unit = pick it up for free from someone who did a 5spd swap and give it a shot.

but the z32 should be stronger right ??? what I was planning to do at first was to drop a shift kit, a high performance torque converter & a HP valve body with a oil tranny cooler , to hold the T28 @ 10 or 9 psi , what should be better ??? this kit or the z32 tranny swap ??

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

The Z32 tranny is over kill for a T28 @ 10psi. Thats maybe 220-ish lbs-ft of torque.

However, the tranny has been used with good results on another KA-T car, found @ AMS performance

http://www.amsperformance.com/store/index.php?cPath=24

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

More specifically:

http://www.amsperformance.com/ivan.php

[projectRDM]

Originally Posted by yankee_TOP-END

does the auto tranny from the z32 non turbo can hold the KA24DET with a T28 @ 10psi ? so the bellhousing is the same for the z32 and s14 automatics????

I really don't like typing a post only to have to go back and retype it because people can't read.
Since we've decided you're not paying attention too well, we'll make it a little more remedial.

1989-1998 Nissan 240SXs all use the exact same automatic transmission, period.
1990-1996 Nissan 300ZXs use the same transmission as well, but with a different bellhousing to accept the VG30 engine.

Now knowing that, any 90-96 NA auto will swap right into any 240SX IF you swap the bellhousing first. What amount of power one can handle will depend on age, mileage, condition, etc., but you're going into knowing it will easily take 200whp or so since that's what the Z puts down in NA form, and NA guys can easily see 260-280 without trouble from the transmission, so I'd say it's good for 300 usable horsepower. So in effect, a T28 at 10psi on a KA won't make any more than that so the automatic you already have will be fine unless it's ragged or abused. If anything, upgrade the torque converter, flush the fluid, replace the filter, and add an external cooler.

Now, *IF* the Z32 TT automatic has the same length bellhousing, is removable, and has a similar rear bolt pattern, it could be adapted to fit a KA bellhousing pretty easily. That I do not know. The TT can handle at least 400whp without issue.

[yankee_TOP-END]

Originally Posted by projectRDM

I really don't like typing a post only to have to go back and retype it because people can't read.
Since we've decided you're not paying attention too well, we'll make it a little more remedial.

1989-1998 Nissan 240SXs all use the exact same automatic transmission, period.
1990-1996 Nissan 300ZXs use the same transmission as well, but with a different bellhousing to accept the VG30 engine.

Now knowing that, any 90-96 NA auto will swap right into any 240SX IF you swap the bellhousing first. What amount of power one can handle will depend on age, mileage, condition, etc., but you're going into knowing it will easily take 200whp or so since that's what the Z puts down in NA form, and NA guys can easily see 260-280 without trouble from the transmission, so I'd say it's good for 300 usable horsepower. So in effect, a T28 at 10psi on a KA won't make any more than that so the automatic you already have will be fine unless it's ragged or abused. If anything, upgrade the torque converter, flush the fluid, replace the filter, and add an external cooler.

Now, *IF* the Z32 TT automatic has the same length bellhousing, is removable, and has a similar rear bolt pattern, it could be adapted to fit a KA bellhousing pretty easily. That I do not know. The TT can handle at least 400whp without issue.

Im sorry if I didn't get some things at the begining there are still some words that I cant catch but now its all clear ! thank U so much !!! I was worried cause I was about to bought a Z32 for the front & rear breaks swap,LSD swap & seats and now I'll do the tranny ! , does any one knows what else can I do with the z32 parts that I can use on my kouki ???

once again ! thank for this tranny lesson !

[Sir]

seats??? they're like 80lbs each (maybe not but heavy as hell)

Get the MAF and wiring, everyone wants that.
wheels, 5lug rear hubs if its NA

[yankee_TOP-END]

Originally Posted by Sir

seats??? they're like 80lbs each (maybe not but heavy as hell)

Get the MAF and wiring, everyone wants that.
wheels, 5lug rear hubs if its NA

one last questione ! does the bellhousing from the z32 needs something to fit the 240sx or it will fit just the way it is ???

[krappy]

Originally Posted by yankee_TOP-END

one last questione ! does the bellhousing from the z32 needs something to fit the 240sx or it will fit just the way it is ???

if the tranny would work you would need to use the KA bellhousing and swap it over to the Z32 one.... you cant use the z32 bellhousing....

[projectRDM]

Originally Posted by yankee_TOP-END

one last questione ! does the bellhousing from the z32 needs something to fit the 240sx or it will fit just the way it is ???

Taken directly from my post above:

Now knowing that, any 90-96 NA automatic will swap right into any 240SX IF you swap the bellhousing first.

[yankee_TOP-END]

Originally Posted by projectRDM

Taken directly from my post above:

Now knowing that, any 90-96 NA automatic will swap right into any 240SX IF you swap the bellhousing first.

got it !! do I need any extra parts to make the bellhousing swap ?? or what will be the main problem doing the swap ??? any ideas ????