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***FaLKoN240*** · 05-15-2006, 02:42 AM

Wow, that set up is straight up GANGSTA. I can't wait to hear it in person. . .again.

Neejay · 05-15-2006, 09:35 AM

Damn that's nice man. Good job.

Also, you said that that intercooler was good to about 400hp? So why do people get those huge ones with waaaay less power? Or does this have to do with the ITB setup? (Not being an ass, I really just dont understand)

And I like the way the intercooler is in between the headlights (less air travel, and unique to me)

*NemeGuero* · 05-15-2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neejay

So why do people get those huge ones with waaaay less power?

RICE RICE BABY!!

95Blue240sx · 05-15-2006, 10:07 AM

Whats gansta is that he doesnt have turn signals on his colum.

Wicked shit thoughhhh

PoorMans180SX · 05-15-2006, 10:36 AM

DO you have more pics of the ITB setup before the plenum? And how did you hook up the throttle cable? PM me please. I've been wanting to do this for forever!

axiomatik · 05-15-2006, 11:51 AM

here's his original ITB thread:

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=68181

wootwoot · 05-15-2006, 12:46 PM

are you planning on upgrading the radiator with that intercooler stealing a lot of the airflow away?

Neejay · 05-15-2006, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot

are you planning on upgrading the radiator with that intercooler stealing a lot of the airflow away?

That's what I was wondering too, but I would think he has plenty of airflow the regular way (through the front bumper).

Maybe that also had something to do with going with that style intercooler?

j00ni3 · 05-15-2006, 01:02 PM

post some vids and more pics~~

i like how you did the whole setup... i was thinking about doing something like this hehe...

sncs14 · 05-15-2006, 01:23 PM

I demand event footage ASAP

meatish · 05-15-2006, 01:36 PM

Haha scoot those are some cute welds.. did you use a $60 stick welder from pep boys?
Just kidding, looks SICK, cant wait to hear it. I'll probably see you at event soon after I get my new car.
Have you finished tuning yet?

SimpleS14 · 05-15-2006, 01:58 PM

Damn that is some nice work Scott. I wish I can see the setup in person and hear the car. I hope your numbers are what your looking for, unlike the ITB project.

ramblux · 05-15-2006, 03:42 PM

Scott, do you have any audio or video of your original N/A setup? I think people would shit if they haven't had a chance to hear it. It's SICK.

RBS14 · 05-15-2006, 06:11 PM

Everyone else runs huge intercoolers because they either think they need one that big or just like how it looks more than functionality.

Mike, I never got any video with good sound when it was N/A. Oh wells.

Little update. Turbine side oil seal is blown. Fantastic. So I guess I'm not going to the event on sunday, or having my car running in the next anytime soon. Fucking sweet. Goes out for warranty repairs tomorrow.

SpeedMonkeyInc · 05-15-2006, 06:32 PM

Thats all it took? The seals went out that fast? Garbage. I am sorry.

RBS14 · 05-15-2006, 06:39 PM

Yup. You know how it goes tho. Did you get your turbos back yet?

SpeedMonkeyInc · 05-15-2006, 06:59 PM

One of them yeah. Car is running great thanks. The smaller turbo that I will end up sticking with is still out. 3 months and still no word.

BigVinnie · 05-15-2006, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chibo

The equalizing pressure makes sense to me but I can't visualize how it accomplishes it for the life of me

It's really very simple to visualize, there just like swirl control valves. Maximum swirl to deliver optimum atomization. Kinda of like OBD and OBD1 KA's with out the super long runners, and an added TB before the runners, more responsive and very much larger than the KA runner scv's too.
This kind of setup should be very jumpy on the throttle responce.
Plus Scott is using velocity stacks everywhere from the turbo to the plenum, unfucking believable....
I can't wait to see speed monkey, Neme, and RBS go head up on the dyno's and the track, and all these guys come outta cali where the ballers play......Big Pimpin....

ms!3 · 05-15-2006, 07:27 PM

your setup is so tight. ive wanted to have itbs and a turbo and ive never seen anybody do it on a 240. now i know that i can do it in my car.

Neejay · 05-15-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBS14

Little update. Turbine side oil seal is blown. Fantastic. So I guess I'm not going to the event on sunday, or having my car running in the next anytime soon. Fucking sweet. Goes out for warranty repairs tomorrow.

Fucking fantastic isn't it? Everytime you get close to something, something stupid happens.

*NemeGuero* · 05-15-2006, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigVinnie

It's really very simple to visualize, there just like swirl control valves. Maximum swirl to deliver optimum atomization. Kinda of like OBD and OBD1 KA's with out the super long runners, and an added TB before the runners, more responsive and very much larger than the KA runner scv's too.
This kind of setup should be very jumpy on the throttle responce.
Plus Scott is using velocity stacks everywhere from the turbo to the plenum, unfucking believable....
I can't wait to see speed monkey, Neme, and RBS go head up on the dyno's and the track, and all these guys come outta cali where the ballers play......Big Pimpin....

I don't know what my name is doin' on that list.. heh

ranisron · 05-15-2006, 07:53 PM

Scott, best of luck to your setup (it is very sweet!). Hope you get your turbo back soon.

and of course, we all want numbers.

big props to you.

RBS14 · 05-15-2006, 07:55 PM

well it looks like it's not my turbo. The engine was REALLY hard to start after the oil problem showed up. Kind of like it was running on 3 cylinders (and it sounded that way after it finally started). And about 5 mins before the oil started squirting everywhere the engine sounded like it had a little knock, but I figured it was something else benign as how could an engine knock at like 1500 rpms after warming up for the first time in a month. No hard driving or anything. The #2 exhaust port is filled with fresh oil, as is the exhaust mani. That oil could not have come from the turbo, so there's only one other source. Guess I need to do a comp test and hope my cams are still ok.

FUCK.

Any ideas?

BigVinnie · 05-15-2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemeGuero

I don't know what my name is doin' on that list.. heh

Just for shits and giggles...... It would be nice to see the differences in power between plenum design, and ITB plenum design..... But ehh it was a nice thought since you are runnin' standalone (BIKI VS. Haltech).....
Although the T32 is a step up to what you have.....

TheTimanator · 05-15-2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBS14

Everyone else runs huge intercoolers because they either think they need one that big or just like how it looks more than functionality.

Why is it that all the FMIC kits have such larger intercoolers and for instance the HKS type S is only rated for 400hp? I just put mine on and that thing is huge. It makes me nervous

especially driving around without a front bumper

If I had to go it again, I'd go go custom.

EDIT: I guess it's not your turbo. That could possibly be even worse! Good luck man.

SpeedMonkeyInc · 05-15-2006, 08:14 PM

Oh no Scooter! That sounds bad. Did you prime the oil before starting?

spdfreek0o · 05-15-2006, 08:19 PM

did you make the downpipe flange or did you get it somewhere?

kay_arsen · 05-15-2006, 08:59 PM

wow awsome work two thumbs up man

nissantuner22 · 05-16-2006, 06:39 AM

Wow keep us updated on how the engine is!

RBS14 · 05-16-2006, 08:54 AM

I bought the downpipe flange from ATP turbo.

Turns out the engine is fine. My injectors are dumping an assload of fuel for some reason. Enough fuel to mix with the carbon deposits in the exhaust ports and look (and burn) like oil. So maybe (I hope) both my engine and turbo are fine! I'm gonna figure out what's wrong with my injectors and then put it all back together, put new oil in it (that's not half fuel) and start it up again. We'll see.

05-15-2006, 02:42 AM	#31
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Wow, that set up is straight up GANGSTA. I can't wait to hear it in person. . .again. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

05-15-2006, 10:07 AM	#34
95Blue240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Girls pee-pee when they see me Age: 41 Posts: 4,084 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95Blue240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Whats gansta is that he doesnt have turn signals on his colum. Wicked shit thoughhhh __________________ Please leave me feedback

05-15-2006, 10:36 AM	#35
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 5,616 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	DO you have more pics of the ITB setup before the plenum? And how did you hook up the throttle cable? PM me please. I've been wanting to do this for forever! __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

05-15-2006, 11:51 AM	#36
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05-15-2006, 12:46 PM	#37
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	are you planning on upgrading the radiator with that intercooler stealing a lot of the airflow away? __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

05-15-2006, 09:35 AM	#32
Neejay Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: lol Age: 39 Posts: 2,586 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Neejay Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Damn that's nice man. Good job. Also, you said that that intercooler was good to about 400hp? So why do people get those huge ones with waaaay less power? Or does this have to do with the ITB setup? (Not being an ass, I really just dont understand) And I like the way the intercooler is in between the headlights (less air travel, and unique to me)

05-15-2006, 01:02 PM	#39
j00ni3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC.... 브롱동~ Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	post some vids and more pics~~ i like how you did the whole setup... i was thinking about doing something like this hehe... __________________ 빨리 달리자... 싫으면 말고~ driver's side window button fix

05-15-2006, 01:23 PM	#40
sncs14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: sncs14 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I demand event footage ASAP

05-15-2006, 01:36 PM	#41
meatish Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Haha scoot those are some cute welds.. did you use a $60 stick welder from pep boys? Just kidding, looks SICK, cant wait to hear it. I'll probably see you at event soon after I get my new car. Have you finished tuning yet? __________________ Mr. Pibb + Red Vines = CRAZY DELICIOUS -Dont wanna be a drifter no more.. Im not a drifter i just crash a lot.

05-15-2006, 01:58 PM	#42
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Damn that is some nice work Scott. I wish I can see the setup in person and hear the car. I hope your numbers are what your looking for, unlike the ITB project. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

05-15-2006, 03:42 PM	#43
ramblux Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 735 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Scott, do you have any audio or video of your original N/A setup? I think people would shit if they haven't had a chance to hear it. It's SICK.

05-15-2006, 06:11 PM	#44
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Everyone else runs huge intercoolers because they either think they need one that big or just like how it looks more than functionality. Mike, I never got any video with good sound when it was N/A. Oh wells. Little update. Turbine side oil seal is blown. Fantastic. So I guess I'm not going to the event on sunday, or having my car running in the next anytime soon. Fucking sweet. Goes out for warranty repairs tomorrow. __________________

05-15-2006, 06:32 PM	#45
SpeedMonkeyInc Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oakland Age: 45 Posts: 1,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats all it took? The seals went out that fast? Garbage. I am sorry.

05-15-2006, 06:39 PM	#46
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yup. You know how it goes tho. Did you get your turbos back yet? __________________

05-15-2006, 06:59 PM	#47
SpeedMonkeyInc Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oakland Age: 45 Posts: 1,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	One of them yeah. Car is running great thanks. The smaller turbo that I will end up sticking with is still out. 3 months and still no word.

05-15-2006, 07:27 PM	#49
ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 35 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	your setup is so tight. ive wanted to have itbs and a turbo and ive never seen anybody do it on a 240. now i know that i can do it in my car.

05-15-2006, 07:53 PM	#52
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 43 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Scott, best of luck to your setup (it is very sweet!). Hope you get your turbo back soon. and of course, we all want numbers. big props to you. __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

05-15-2006, 07:55 PM	#53
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well it looks like it's not my turbo. The engine was REALLY hard to start after the oil problem showed up. Kind of like it was running on 3 cylinders (and it sounded that way after it finally started). And about 5 mins before the oil started squirting everywhere the engine sounded like it had a little knock, but I figured it was something else benign as how could an engine knock at like 1500 rpms after warming up for the first time in a month. No hard driving or anything. The #2 exhaust port is filled with fresh oil, as is the exhaust mani. That oil could not have come from the turbo, so there's only one other source. Guess I need to do a comp test and hope my cams are still ok. FUCK. Any ideas? __________________

05-15-2006, 08:14 PM	#56
SpeedMonkeyInc Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oakland Age: 45 Posts: 1,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh no Scooter! That sounds bad. Did you prime the oil before starting?

05-15-2006, 08:19 PM	#57
spdfreek0o Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 280 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	did you make the downpipe flange or did you get it somewhere?

05-15-2006, 08:59 PM	#58
kay_arsen Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: kitchener Posts: 184 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow awsome work two thumbs up man __________________ ﻱ

05-16-2006, 06:39 AM	#59
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05-16-2006, 08:54 AM	#60
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I bought the downpipe flange from ATP turbo. Turns out the engine is fine. My injectors are dumping an assload of fuel for some reason. Enough fuel to mix with the carbon deposits in the exhaust ports and look (and burn) like oil. So maybe (I hope) both my engine and turbo are fine! I'm gonna figure out what's wrong with my injectors and then put it all back together, put new oil in it (that's not half fuel) and start it up again. We'll see. __________________