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SilviaDriver · 07-25-2002, 08:17 PM

well..here i am on my friends comp..and i looked through his racing vids..and i came across a vid that was labled..\

"type r vs silvia"\

well i watched the movie..and i saw that..the silvia lost!!!! hrmm..i dunno wats up..but i know u can tell me..im juss guessin cuz the silvia weights a lot more..i cannot think of something else besides that and oh yea..the driver

whateverjames · 07-25-2002, 09:11 PM

reeeely. has anyone seen this video (i'm bein sarcastic)
everyone has their theories about this. either type r's run 14 flat from the factory, the type r was modified, or the silvia driver was having a bad day.

SimpleS14 · 07-25-2002, 09:45 PM

what does the S-14 Silvia run in the 1/4?

SilviaDriver · 07-25-2002, 09:50 PM

both cars were stock for stock..racing each other..teh silvia had it in the beginning...but lost it in the end by like.. ".2" seconds

KiDyNomiTe · 07-25-2002, 09:52 PM

some of those videos are funny, the drivers always have wierd ass expressions on thier face when they get overtaken. IIRC the MR-2 beat an RX-7, i didn't know they could but I guess I put the RX-7 on too high of a pedastool. Still love both cars though. Anyway vids like those aren't always accurate becuase of difference in driver skill. Unless one of the cars gets killed there is always a chance for both cars.

JEdubz · 07-25-2002, 10:04 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilviaDriver @ July 25 2002,10:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">both cars were stock for stock..racing each other..teh silvia had it in the beginning...but lost it in the end by like.. ".2" seconds</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You are making assumptions.... People will often lable videos that are untruthful... Did they lift up their hoods engines in the video and take their engines apart and show that everything was stock? I doubt it. And even so what is to say that it wasnt the drivier that caused the outcome. Don't trust the internet videos...Trust the numbers.

Bbandit · 07-25-2002, 10:41 PM

yea.. s14 silvia goes 14 flat quarter mile while... type r goes mid 14's.. theoretically.. silvia should win.. but out there on the field, anything could happen.. maybe the silvia is an auto.. who'll never know? they didnt show it... rye?

misnomer · 07-26-2002, 12:04 AM

Wow, I think it's been damn near three weeks since somebody mentioned this video. . .

AZN GTR · 07-26-2002, 12:09 AM

A magazine in Hong Kong compared them, stock to stock, the S14 would win if it's not a very long race, ITR has a higher top speed, but S14 has turbo.

MyFirst240SX · 07-26-2002, 04:17 AM

Isn't that the same people who raced the AWD Skyline against an NSX.  ANd the NSX launched off the line much better than the skyline?
doesn't that say something about these videos and there drivers?

camppain · 07-26-2002, 10:02 AM

i just saw a vid of a 3 cylinder metro beating a heavily mopdded civic is that for real? i mean they said they were stock for modified? can anyone tell me? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

Starlin · 07-26-2002, 10:14 AM

Of course it's real, you saw it.
The question is were they both really trying to win? I mean come on, the metro is one of the biggest lemons out there. Sure they get 400mpg but they have like 3hp and after the hamster under the hood gets tired it's down to like 1.5hp and .4ft lbs of torque.

I'm no Honda fan but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one and say it was set up or even rigged.
Just my onion,
Starlin

tnord · 07-26-2002, 05:32 PM

1) of course it's not reliable, it's on the internet. (anybody else sense the irony?)
2) who cares.....it's a drag race

KyoLo · 07-26-2002, 08:02 PM

drag race, nothing new....
240SX will sure beat ITR easy when turns
if you don't think so, ask Tsuchiiya Keiichi, the most powerful Japanese driver in Japan, i believe, he will tell you FR - S14, NOT FF - ITR . I know ITR is a very good FF, S14 is even better. Don't doubt. But if i had chance to get ITR and S14(US Version for both), i would definitely get ITR!!! hahahaha
WHY?? because ITR is worth more than its retail price now, so i will SELL THE CAR!! THEN BUY S14 KOUKI, drop S14 engine, FIX ALL THE UP!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHHA, MUWAHAHAHAHAAH my evil plan.

SilviaDriver · 07-26-2002, 09:41 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ July 26 2002,9:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">drag race, nothing new....
240SX will sure beat ITR easy when turns
if you don't think so, ask Tsuchiiya Keiichi, the most powerful Japanese driver in Japan, i believe, he will tell you FR - S14, NOT FF - ITR . I know ITR is a very good FF, S14 is even better. Don't doubt. But if i had chance to get ITR and S14(US Version for both), i would definitely get ITR!!! hahahaha
WHY?? because ITR is worth more than its retail price now, so i will SELL THE CAR!! THEN BUY S14 KOUKI, drop S14 engine, FIX ALL THE UP!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHHA, MUWAHAHAHAHAAH my evil plan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yea dats one mean evil plan man..but as for me..id get teh ITR..and keep it..and sell my 240 hahaha

Ni5mo180SX · 07-28-2002, 12:18 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ July 25 2002,10:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">drag race, nothing new....
240SX will sure beat ITR easy when turns
if you don't think so, ask Tsuchiiya Keiichi, the most powerful Japanese driver in Japan, i believe, he will tell you FR - S14, NOT FF - ITR . I know ITR is a very good FF, S14 is even better. Don't doubt. But if i had chance to get ITR and S14(US Version for both), i would definitely get ITR!!! hahahaha
WHY?? because ITR is worth more than its retail price now, so i will SELL THE CAR!! THEN BUY S14 KOUKI, drop S14 engine, FIX ALL THE UP!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHHA, MUWAHAHAHAHAAH my evil plan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wow, so people in this forum now speak for others in Japan? We had a big debate on the ITR v. S14 video a while ago. Best Motoring times are very sketchy at best. Someone mentioned the MR2 v. RX7 video earlier. I was hoping they would point out BM's inconsistency but they believed what they say! The MR2 ran a mid 13 I believe and the FD ran a 14.4. By using common sense its very easy to tell something wasn't right with that run. Watch the video again, watch the way the RX7 jerks on the 1st to 2nd shift and try and tell me that was an optimal run.
BTW- The S13 and S15 are both favored over the S14 as far as drifting.

07-25-2002, 09:11 PM	#2
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	reeeely. has anyone seen this video (i'm bein sarcastic) everyone has their theories about this. either type r's run 14 flat from the factory, the type r was modified, or the silvia driver was having a bad day. __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

07-25-2002, 09:45 PM	#3
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what does the S-14 Silvia run in the 1/4? __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

07-25-2002, 09:52 PM	#5
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	some of those videos are funny, the drivers always have wierd ass expressions on thier face when they get overtaken. IIRC the MR-2 beat an RX-7, i didn't know they could but I guess I put the RX-7 on too high of a pedastool. Still love both cars though. Anyway vids like those aren't always accurate becuase of difference in driver skill. Unless one of the cars gets killed there is always a chance for both cars. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

07-25-2002, 10:04 PM	#6
JEdubz Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 195 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilviaDriver @ July 25 2002,10:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">both cars were stock for stock..racing each other..teh silvia had it in the beginning...but lost it in the end by like.. ".2" seconds</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> You are making assumptions.... People will often lable videos that are untruthful... Did they lift up their hoods engines in the video and take their engines apart and show that everything was stock? I doubt it. And even so what is to say that it wasnt the drivier that caused the outcome. Don't trust the internet videos...Trust the numbers. __________________ JEdubz

07-25-2002, 10:41 PM	#7
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea.. s14 silvia goes 14 flat quarter mile while... type r goes mid 14's.. theoretically.. silvia should win.. but out there on the field, anything could happen.. maybe the silvia is an auto.. who'll never know? they didnt show it... rye? __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

07-25-2002, 08:17 PM	#1
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	well..here i am on my friends comp..and i looked through his racing vids..and i came across a vid that was labled..\ "type r vs silvia"\ well i watched the movie..and i saw that..the silvia lost!!!! hrmm..i dunno wats up..but i know u can tell me..im juss guessin cuz the silvia weights a lot more..i cannot think of something else besides that and oh yea..the driver

07-25-2002, 09:50 PM	#4
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	both cars were stock for stock..racing each other..teh silvia had it in the beginning...but lost it in the end by like.. ".2" seconds

07-26-2002, 12:04 AM	#8
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow, I think it's been damn near three weeks since somebody mentioned this video. . . __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

07-26-2002, 12:09 AM	#9
AZN GTR Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A magazine in Hong Kong compared them, stock to stock, the S14 would win if it's not a very long race, ITR has a higher top speed, but S14 has turbo.

07-26-2002, 04:17 AM	#10
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Isn't that the same people who raced the AWD Skyline against an NSX.  ANd the NSX launched off the line much better than the skyline? doesn't that say something about these videos and there drivers? __________________ It is better to drive a Slow car fast than to drive a fast Car slow! '89 FastBack 5spd: Intake/Exhaust,Strut Bars and JL15. '90 Parts car/Some day drag car.

07-26-2002, 10:02 AM	#11
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i just saw a vid of a 3 cylinder metro beating a heavily mopdded civic is that for real? i mean they said they were stock for modified? can anyone tell me? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

07-26-2002, 10:14 AM	#12
Starlin Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 128 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Of course it's real, you saw it. The question is were they both really trying to win? I mean come on, the metro is one of the biggest lemons out there. Sure they get 400mpg but they have like 3hp and after the hamster under the hood gets tired it's down to like 1.5hp and .4ft lbs of torque. I'm no Honda fan but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one and say it was set up or even rigged. Just my onion, Starlin __________________ '89 240 SX: Chrome Tinted Windows/5 speed '67 Ford Fairlane: Edlebrock:RPM Intake/Cam & Lifters/750cfm Carb/Alum. Heads/Alum. Valve Covers/Alum. Air Filter, Hooker Headers, Griffen Alum. Radiator, Mallory Ignition Sys, 9mm Ford Racing Wires, Flowmaster Exhaust + misc = 560hp/12.6 sec 1/4 Mile

07-26-2002, 05:32 PM	#13
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	1) of course it's not reliable, it's on the internet. (anybody else sense the irony?) 2) who cares.....it's a drag race

07-26-2002, 08:02 PM	#14
KyoLo Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UCSD Posts: 249 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	drag race, nothing new.... 240SX will sure beat ITR easy when turns if you don't think so, ask Tsuchiiya Keiichi, the most powerful Japanese driver in Japan, i believe, he will tell you FR - S14, NOT FF - ITR . I know ITR is a very good FF, S14 is even better. Don't doubt. But if i had chance to get ITR and S14(US Version for both), i would definitely get ITR!!! hahahaha WHY?? because ITR is worth more than its retail price now, so i will SELL THE CAR!! THEN BUY S14 KOUKI, drop S14 engine, FIX ALL THE UP!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHHA, MUWAHAHAHAHAAH my evil plan. __________________ Signature Exceeds Forum Limits

07-26-2002, 09:41 PM	#15
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ July 26 2002,9:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">drag race, nothing new.... 240SX will sure beat ITR easy when turns if you don't think so, ask Tsuchiiya Keiichi, the most powerful Japanese driver in Japan, i believe, he will tell you FR - S14, NOT FF - ITR . I know ITR is a very good FF, S14 is even better. Don't doubt. But if i had chance to get ITR and S14(US Version for both), i would definitely get ITR!!! hahahaha WHY?? because ITR is worth more than its retail price now, so i will SELL THE CAR!! THEN BUY S14 KOUKI, drop S14 engine, FIX ALL THE UP!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHHA, MUWAHAHAHAHAAH my evil plan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yea dats one mean evil plan man..but as for me..id get teh ITR..and keep it..and sell my 240 hahaha

07-28-2002, 12:18 PM	#16
Ni5mo180SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orange County Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ July 25 2002,10:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">drag race, nothing new.... 240SX will sure beat ITR easy when turns if you don't think so, ask Tsuchiiya Keiichi, the most powerful Japanese driver in Japan, i believe, he will tell you FR - S14, NOT FF - ITR . I know ITR is a very good FF, S14 is even better. Don't doubt. But if i had chance to get ITR and S14(US Version for both), i would definitely get ITR!!! hahahaha WHY?? because ITR is worth more than its retail price now, so i will SELL THE CAR!! THEN BUY S14 KOUKI, drop S14 engine, FIX ALL THE UP!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHHA, MUWAHAHAHAHAAH my evil plan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> wow, so people in this forum now speak for others in Japan? We had a big debate on the ITR v. S14 video a while ago. Best Motoring times are very sketchy at best. Someone mentioned the MR2 v. RX7 video earlier. I was hoping they would point out BM's inconsistency but they believed what they say! The MR2 ran a mid 13 I believe and the FD ran a 14.4. By using common sense its very easy to tell something wasn't right with that run. Watch the video again, watch the way the RX7 jerks on the 1st to 2nd shift and try and tell me that was an optimal run. BTW- The S13 and S15 are both favored over the S14 as far as drifting. __________________ Mazda RX-7 FC3S: Jspec motor, ported turbo & wastegate, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Mazdatrix adj. rear camber link, TB mod, Koyo 53mm Radiator, Corksport Cat back/midpipe/downipe, 3" Al TID, Apex'i air cleaner, Mazda Comp. mission/motor/differential mounts, Mazdaspeed Strut Bar(R), FD torsen differential, HKS SSQV, HKS elec. boost gauge & elec water temp, Cusco Oil catch, 680cc secondary's, Walbro 255, Banzai Racing FCD, RB DTSS Eliminator bushings, Exedy Clutch & PP, Exedy chrome moly flywheel, RB oil baffle, RB dual alt. pulley, 5 lug conversion, FC3S.org thermal bypass pellet, KVR Cross drilled rotors, complete Energy PU bushings, stainless steel brake lines/clutch line, Aerodyne shroud panel, Azenis RS, and some other stuff. A hybrid of sorts I guess