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ZenkitonS14 · 02-10-2007, 12:38 PM

All of you super slammed guys. How many of you guys on coilovers are drooping your rear springs. How long have you been on that setup and If you 3 wheel up driveways and the spring gets loose is it safe? My ride height is maxed out and its still not low enough. My only option now is to droop

On S14 btw

Duzzes_Wild · 02-10-2007, 12:59 PM

drooping, wth is drooping it doesnt sound safe, if you mean preloading the spring , it is relatively safe

ZenkitonS14 · 02-10-2007, 01:54 PM

^^^NOT preloading the spring. Im like 1/2 an inch uncaptive. Seems fine to me. I just want to know how many other people are doing this too.

***S14DB*** · 02-10-2007, 03:01 PM

What coils? You have no height adjustment I assume.

McRussellPants · 02-10-2007, 04:32 PM

KTS have been cooking on an inch of droop for about 2 months now.

when they shit their pants Im just gonna get Z32 front replacement shocks.

DRFT180 · 02-10-2007, 06:04 PM

What is the advantage of the Z32 front shocks?

Oh, I'm also on KTS with about 1/2in of droop in the rear for a little over a year now. No problems so far

gotta240 · 02-10-2007, 06:07 PM

wtf is "droop"???

Matej · 02-10-2007, 07:00 PM

Do you mean that the spring does not touch the upper mount? That's bad for the coilover and will shorten its life, move the collars that the springs sit on higher.

What are the benefits to Z32 shocks? I'm guessing they sit lower, but why go from coilovers to Z32 shocks?

ZenkitonS14 · 02-10-2007, 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=Matej]Do you mean that the spring does not touch the upper mount? That's bad for the coilover and will shorten its life, move the collars that the springs sit on higher.

yes, when the car is up in the air the spring is loose. Mine dont really have much room to move from side to side but u can woble them by hand when the car is jacked up in the rear.

[QUOTE=Matej]What coils? You have no height adjustment I assume.

Megan street. Yes, they are height adjustable, but the body adjustments lowest setting isnt low enough for me.

Matej · 02-10-2007, 07:54 PM

When you installed them, did you leave the springs at the factory height, or did you adjust them? I have Megan Streets as well. The spring height comes pre-adjusted to the optimum setting from the factory, so I didn't change it. I only adjusted the body height to go as low as possible, and I also took out the bottom collars, now I scrape ground everywhere. I'm not sure how big the difference for S14's is though.

seekanddestroy · 02-10-2007, 07:55 PM

Not having preload on them is fine as long as its not a rally car, they will pop right back in their perches without damage when you lift a wheel in a driveway, etc. Most cars actually don't have height adjustable coilovers readily available, so no preload is common on a lot of coilovers that have shorter springs when you lower the car more.

ZenkitonS14 · 02-10-2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

When you installed them, did you leave the springs at the factory height, or did you adjust them? I have Megan Streets as well. The spring height comes pre-adjusted to the optimum setting from the factory, so I didn't change it. I only adjusted the body height to go as low as possible, and I also took out the bottom collars, now I scrape ground everywhere. I'm not sure how big the difference for S14's is though.

At first I didnt touch the preload, but after I maxed out the ride height, it still was too high. You took out rear collars?

Quote:

Originally Posted by seekanddestroy

Not having preload on them is fine as long as its not a rally car, they will pop right back in their perches without damage when you lift a wheel in a driveway, etc. Most cars actually don't have height adjustable coilovers readily available, so no preload is common on a lot of coilovers that have shorter springs when you lower the car more.

Mine arent drooped THAT much(maybe like 3/4" at the most, they barely woble, Theyre not TOO loose. Theres some guys that run like 2" uncaptive!!!

seekanddestroy · 02-10-2007, 08:04 PM

If you are REALLY worried about it, simply get some longer springs.. this will let you lower the preload perch, and still be able to put preload on the spring.

You can get new springs from Eibach.

Matej · 02-10-2007, 08:08 PM

If it's still not low enough after you remove the bottom collars, all you can do is preload the springs, which will also take care of your drooping problem.

Nizzan4u2nv · 02-10-2007, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seekanddestroy

If you are REALLY worried about it, simply get some longer springs.. this will let you lower the preload perch, and still be able to put preload on the spring.

You can get new springs from Eibach.

That defeats the whole purpose of wanting to go lower.

Nizzan4u2nv · 02-10-2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

If it's still not low enough after you remove the bottom collars, all you can do is preload the springs, which will also take care of your drooping problem.

Cant do that for the rear of s14. That doesnt give any adjustment, and nothing will hold the spring up. That will work for the front though.

seekanddestroy · 02-10-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nizzan4u2nv

That defeats the whole purpose of wanting to go lower.

Yeah, my bad... got confused there for a sec. You would have to have the shock shafts shortened.

Matej · 02-10-2007, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nizzan4u2nv

Cant do that for the rear of s14. That doesnt give any adjustment, and nothing will hold the spring up. That will work for the front though.

Sorry, I assumed they were pretty much the same as the S13 ones, I apologize.

02-10-2007, 12:38 PM	#1
ZenkitonS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 471 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Uncaptive/Drooping Springs All of you super slammed guys. How many of you guys on coilovers are drooping your rear springs. How long have you been on that setup and If you 3 wheel up driveways and the spring gets loose is it safe? My ride height is maxed out and its still not low enough. My only option now is to droop On S14 btw __________________ Email Jake@optionimports.com [email protected] Tel: 626-581-7200 Fax: 626-330-3155 275 S 3rd Ave. #2 La Puente, CA 91746 Last edited by ZenkitonS14; 02-10-2007 at 01:55 PM..

02-10-2007, 01:54 PM	#3
ZenkitonS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 471 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^^^NOT preloading the spring. Im like 1/2 an inch uncaptive. Seems fine to me. I just want to know how many other people are doing this too. __________________ Email Jake@optionimports.com [email protected] Tel: 626-581-7200 Fax: 626-330-3155 275 S 3rd Ave. #2 La Puente, CA 91746

02-10-2007, 03:01 PM	#4
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What coils? You have no height adjustment I assume. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

02-10-2007, 07:23 PM	#9
ZenkitonS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 471 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	[QUOTE=Matej]Do you mean that the spring does not touch the upper mount? That's bad for the coilover and will shorten its life, move the collars that the springs sit on higher. yes, when the car is up in the air the spring is loose. Mine dont really have much room to move from side to side but u can woble them by hand when the car is jacked up in the rear. [QUOTE=Matej]What coils? You have no height adjustment I assume. Megan street. Yes, they are height adjustable, but the body adjustments lowest setting isnt low enough for me. __________________ Email Jake@optionimports.com [email protected] Tel: 626-581-7200 Fax: 626-330-3155 275 S 3rd Ave. #2 La Puente, CA 91746

02-10-2007, 12:59 PM	#2
Duzzes_Wild Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: asheville Age: 37 Posts: 93 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	drooping, wth is drooping it doesnt sound safe, if you mean preloading the spring , it is relatively safe

02-10-2007, 04:32 PM	#5
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	KTS have been cooking on an inch of droop for about 2 months now. when they shit their pants Im just gonna get Z32 front replacement shocks.

02-10-2007, 06:04 PM	#6
DRFT180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 656 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	What is the advantage of the Z32 front shocks? Oh, I'm also on KTS with about 1/2in of droop in the rear for a little over a year now. No problems so far

02-10-2007, 06:07 PM	#7
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	wtf is "droop"???

02-10-2007, 07:00 PM	#8
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Do you mean that the spring does not touch the upper mount? That's bad for the coilover and will shorten its life, move the collars that the springs sit on higher. What are the benefits to Z32 shocks? I'm guessing they sit lower, but why go from coilovers to Z32 shocks?

02-10-2007, 07:54 PM	#10
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	When you installed them, did you leave the springs at the factory height, or did you adjust them? I have Megan Streets as well. The spring height comes pre-adjusted to the optimum setting from the factory, so I didn't change it. I only adjusted the body height to go as low as possible, and I also took out the bottom collars, now I scrape ground everywhere. I'm not sure how big the difference for S14's is though.

02-10-2007, 07:55 PM	#11
seekanddestroy Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: califorrrnia Posts: 187 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not having preload on them is fine as long as its not a rally car, they will pop right back in their perches without damage when you lift a wheel in a driveway, etc. Most cars actually don't have height adjustable coilovers readily available, so no preload is common on a lot of coilovers that have shorter springs when you lower the car more.

02-10-2007, 08:04 PM	#13
seekanddestroy Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: califorrrnia Posts: 187 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you are REALLY worried about it, simply get some longer springs.. this will let you lower the preload perch, and still be able to put preload on the spring. You can get new springs from Eibach.

02-10-2007, 08:08 PM	#14
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	If it's still not low enough after you remove the bottom collars, all you can do is preload the springs, which will also take care of your drooping problem.