S13.4 Zenki Convertible? Anyone? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

John_R · 03-07-2007, 02:31 PM

I recently bought a 93' Vert. The car was in a bit of a front end accident (which I didn't know know about until I took off the fenders). I was considering a silvia front end, but I really like the 95-96 Zenki look ( not as much as a Kouki, but MUCH cheaper). I think it matches the coupes lines better than a kouki front end would.

Does anyone have any information or pictures of a S13.4 Coupe/Vert with a Zenki front end? Any information on how hard of a swap it would be? I would assume it would be the same as going from S13 - S14-Kouki, right?

Thanks a lot guys (and gals)!
John

markyboi · 03-07-2007, 02:55 PM

what?!

s14 zenki's lines match better with the s13? ?????? you're kidding

A Spec Products · 03-07-2007, 03:00 PM

You'd probably have to make your own fenders.

I don't think I've ever seen a production zenki S13.4 fender

For a convertible I could see it looking okay, but it will depend on what the rest of the car looks like and what kit youre using, paint quality, etc.

If you like zenki go for it!

MrBojangles · 03-07-2007, 03:01 PM

you've never seen a s13.4 kouki then eh?

I think this front end is far more suitable on a coupe than a zenki.

John_R · 03-07-2007, 03:01 PM

Markybui: Ive seen S13 with a kouki front end and it just doesn't look right to me. I own a Kouki and the headlights are very aggressive looking (sharp angles and such). When I look down my vert, I just don't get that same feel. It feels rounder and smoother. I feel that the coupe tail lights match up better with the Zenki front end. Its just my opinion though. Then again. Thanks for a useless bump!

Everyone else: I agree that the Kouki does look good on a coupe, but It just doesn't look right (IMHO). like a very modern front end with an outdated rear. *laugh*

I'd love to see a chopped Zenki/Coupe though. Maybe that would help persuade me.

DriftSpecial180 · 03-07-2007, 03:02 PM

i agree with markyboi. especially s13 coupes. the kouki lights are square as opposed to the more round zenki lights. you won't find any round lines on the coupe...

John_R · 03-07-2007, 03:24 PM

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ht=S13.4+Zenki

Go there. Guys is in a 13.4 Zenki and destroyed a Seagull (we call em Flying Rats around here).

Anyone have anymore pictures of this car?

arkive43 · 03-07-2007, 03:30 PM

to each their own. pics of that car show teh fenders arnt that well aligned so you'll prob need fenders hood s14 font supp. lights etc....its possible but kouki front > zenki. my friend casey has a s13.4 kouki and it looks gewt.

cmcdougle · 03-07-2007, 03:36 PM

if you did wide body in the back it would match up right, or at least look like it is supposed to be that way.

Zenki FTW!!!

CKAMC · 03-07-2007, 05:26 PM

wow no one ever thought to call up AIT aka Bmagic....

chmercer · 03-07-2007, 05:40 PM

i like s15 face convertibles

'90RPS13 · 03-07-2007, 05:45 PM

There actually was a S13.4Z Vert on ebay a week or two ago. Check there.

John_R · 03-09-2007, 09:34 AM

So I haven't found any pics of a 13.4 Zenki vert. So I think thats going to be my newest project. Off to a junkyard I'll be this weekend!

brainfood · 03-09-2007, 09:38 AM

I love zenki s14's I would never own a kouki s14. Just my personal preference the body lines dont match as much with the kouki front on s14's. That being said I would never put a zenki front on a s13. If you have to do a front end conversion coupes should get s13 silvia or s14 kouki and nothing else. 180sx should stay pop-ups but if you have to convert s15 is the only front that looks good.

***S14DB*** · 03-09-2007, 09:54 AM

MadScientist · 03-09-2007, 10:21 AM

I agree... S13 has sharp lines, so Kouki does look better... I dont mind the S15 to much now.

Ohhh so pretty!!

Peace
Drew

drew935 · 03-09-2007, 10:30 AM

/\ pretty...just call it s13.4 bling. I like it a lot. That was the one at SEMA right? cool tonneau cover as well. Just outright sweet Silvia bling.

rewplayff · 03-09-2007, 12:18 PM

IMO any s14/s15 front would look like shit without a huge widebody butt. the zenki on a convertible might just look like a rock at the end of a ruler without one.

a rough photochop. i think the shape works with the shape of the rear widebody

Ronald_Mcdonald · 03-09-2007, 01:08 PM

Durdan Perfab in St. Pete, Florida did a Zenki front on a RHD Hatch.

I'm gonna find pictures of it right now.

I know its not on a coupe, but he did it all himself. Cut, weld, weld some more, body filler, paint.

Ronald_Mcdonald · 03-09-2007, 01:22 PM

These pics are while the car was still being put together, coilovers, 5 lug, full suspension, wheels, big brakes all came later.

I know thats not on a coupe, but still gives you an idea.

irax · 03-09-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadScientist

I agree... S13 has sharp lines, so Kouki does look better... I dont mind the S15 to much now.

Ohhh so pretty!!

Peace
Drew

The VQ35DE powered s13.4, does any one have info on who owns that and contact info? I'm kinda doing the same exact thing, but oppisitie. Im doing a vq35de swap into an s14.3 LOLS!

jdizzy204 · 03-09-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irax

The VQ35DE powered s14.3, does any one have info on who owns that and contact info? I'm kinda doing the same exact thing, but oppisitie. Im doing a vq35de swap into an s14.3 LOLS!

ask and you shall receive
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=171360

illvialuver · 03-09-2007, 04:36 PM

i think the zenki front end looks best on a s14, and the kouki front looks best on the s13 coupe. the lines are sharp and squarish, and so is the coupe but whatever floats your boat. good luck.

hella_flushed · 03-09-2007, 05:47 PM

zenki lights on a s13 coupe? i just threw up in my my mouth a little. i agree w/ everyone else, kouki does fit best bein' that it flows with the overall shape of the car, sharp and squarish. just a my .02...

TheTimanator · 03-09-2007, 08:49 PM

arg...i need to stop looking at this thread. I'd really like to have a vert project. Good luck with it, even though I think the zenki S14 front end isn't going to look good....

John_R · 03-09-2007, 08:57 PM

So I've been thinking about it. Everyone just seems to hate Zenkis. Its not just with the coupe. Most people just like the Kouki. Its not that I think it looks bad. But whenever I see a S13.4 Kouki, you can tell how much the fenders don't line up with the rest of the body. Even though the headlights look great, the fenders just like ass. (Its just an opinion guys!) I have both a 98 kouki and a 93 Vert, and I just can't justify putting a kouki front end on this car.

Another huge reason in switching to a Zenki instead. MONEY. People are just tossing their Zenki stuff out. I can get my hands on a Zenki front end for $300-400. Opposed to a kouki that I could barely get the headlights and corner lights for that much. This vert isn't a show car, just a fun little beater. So whats it gonna hurt? Seriously, having some Zenki coupe pictures would really help, but I've only seen one. Its a funky blue one with a mismatched hood, etc.

Just some thoughts! Sorry you guys hate the idea.......Maybe I'm just being stupid. At least I wanna try something new. *shrugs*

Bryants95240sx · 03-09-2007, 09:13 PM

Meh, it will look like poo imo. But its your car do want you want, i just think a s15 or kouki looks better on verts.

I dont see how you can say the zenki is gonna flow with vert better than a kouki conisdering a vert is pretty squarish and zenki is round.

irax · 03-10-2007, 03:15 AM

just do it. zenki s13 vert is what i plan on doing later after my s14.3 is done.

03-07-2007, 02:31 PM	#1
John_R Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S13.4 Zenki Convertible? Anyone? I recently bought a 93' Vert. The car was in a bit of a front end accident (which I didn't know know about until I took off the fenders). I was considering a silvia front end, but I really like the 95-96 Zenki look ( not as much as a Kouki, but MUCH cheaper). I think it matches the coupes lines better than a kouki front end would. Does anyone have any information or pictures of a S13.4 Coupe/Vert with a Zenki front end? Any information on how hard of a swap it would be? I would assume it would be the same as going from S13 - S14-Kouki, right? Thanks a lot guys (and gals)! John

03-07-2007, 03:00 PM	#3
A Spec Products Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,256 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	You'd probably have to make your own fenders. I don't think I've ever seen a production zenki S13.4 fender For a convertible I could see it looking okay, but it will depend on what the rest of the car looks like and what kit youre using, paint quality, etc. If you like zenki go for it! __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 103 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

03-07-2007, 03:01 PM	#4
MrBojangles Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Metro-Atl Posts: 84 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you've never seen a s13.4 kouki then eh? I think this front end is far more suitable on a coupe than a zenki. __________________ Old Project: Black on Gold S14. Ka-T 8 PSI. 255whp/254ft.lbs

03-07-2007, 03:01 PM	#5
John_R Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Opinions are like a..holes....Everyone's got one. Markybui: Ive seen S13 with a kouki front end and it just doesn't look right to me. I own a Kouki and the headlights are very aggressive looking (sharp angles and such). When I look down my vert, I just don't get that same feel. It feels rounder and smoother. I feel that the coupe tail lights match up better with the Zenki front end. Its just my opinion though. Then again. Thanks for a useless bump! Everyone else: I agree that the Kouki does look good on a coupe, but It just doesn't look right (IMHO). like a very modern front end with an outdated rear. laugh I'd love to see a chopped Zenki/Coupe though. Maybe that would help persuade me.

03-07-2007, 03:36 PM	#9
cmcdougle Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,361 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you did wide body in the back it would match up right, or at least look like it is supposed to be that way. Zenki FTW!!! __________________

03-07-2007, 02:55 PM	#2
markyboi Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: california Posts: 1,105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what?! s14 zenki's lines match better with the s13? ?????? you're kidding

03-07-2007, 03:02 PM	#6
DriftSpecial180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OC, CA Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i agree with markyboi. especially s13 coupes. the kouki lights are square as opposed to the more round zenki lights. you won't find any round lines on the coupe...

03-07-2007, 03:24 PM	#7
John_R Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ht=S13.4+Zenki Go there. Guys is in a 13.4 Zenki and destroyed a Seagull (we call em Flying Rats around here). Anyone have anymore pictures of this car?

03-07-2007, 03:30 PM	#8
arkive43 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: houston Age: 41 Posts: 795 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	to each their own. pics of that car show teh fenders arnt that well aligned so you'll prob need fenders hood s14 font supp. lights etc....its possible but kouki front > zenki. my friend casey has a s13.4 kouki and it looks gewt.

03-07-2007, 05:26 PM	#10
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 37 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow no one ever thought to call up AIT aka Bmagic.... __________________

03-07-2007, 05:40 PM	#11
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 38 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i like s15 face convertibles

03-07-2007, 05:45 PM	#12
'90RPS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Age: 37 Posts: 2,839 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There actually was a S13.4Z Vert on ebay a week or two ago. Check there.

03-09-2007, 09:34 AM	#13
John_R Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No luck. So I haven't found any pics of a 13.4 Zenki vert. So I think thats going to be my newest project. Off to a junkyard I'll be this weekend!

03-09-2007, 09:38 AM	#14
brainfood Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Eagle Rock, CA Age: 41 Posts: 2,957 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I love zenki s14's I would never own a kouki s14. Just my personal preference the body lines dont match as much with the kouki front on s14's. That being said I would never put a zenki front on a s13. If you have to do a front end conversion coupes should get s13 silvia or s14 kouki and nothing else. 180sx should stay pop-ups but if you have to convert s15 is the only front that looks good. __________________ Bryan Rogers http://www.seriousbadass.com

03-09-2007, 09:54 AM	#15
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03-09-2007, 10:21 AM	#16
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 47 Posts: 1,970 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I agree... S13 has sharp lines, so Kouki does look better... I dont mind the S15 to much now. Ohhh so pretty!! Peace Drew __________________ Follow on IG - KoukiTheToolBox

03-09-2007, 10:30 AM	#17
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	/\ pretty...just call it s13.4 bling. I like it a lot. That was the one at SEMA right? cool tonneau cover as well. Just outright sweet Silvia bling. __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

03-09-2007, 12:18 PM	#18
rewplayff Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Jose Age: 40 Posts: 317 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	IMO any s14/s15 front would look like shit without a huge widebody butt. the zenki on a convertible might just look like a rock at the end of a ruler without one. a rough photochop. i think the shape works with the shape of the rear widebody

03-09-2007, 01:08 PM	#19
Ronald_Mcdonald Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 'Merica Age: 37 Posts: 198 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Durdan Perfab in St. Pete, Florida did a Zenki front on a RHD Hatch. I'm gonna find pictures of it right now. I know its not on a coupe, but he did it all himself. Cut, weld, weld some more, body filler, paint. __________________ Determined to be famous, destined to be infamous.

03-09-2007, 01:22 PM	#20
Ronald_Mcdonald Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 'Merica Age: 37 Posts: 198 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	These pics are while the car was still being put together, coilovers, 5 lug, full suspension, wheels, big brakes all came later. I know thats not on a coupe, but still gives you an idea. __________________ Determined to be famous, destined to be infamous.

03-09-2007, 04:36 PM	#23
illvialuver Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: M-A-R-S... MARS BITCHES Age: 41 Posts: 5,065 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	i think the zenki front end looks best on a s14, and the kouki front looks best on the s13 coupe. the lines are sharp and squarish, and so is the coupe but whatever floats your boat. good luck.

03-09-2007, 05:47 PM	#24
hella_flushed Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 107 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	zenki lights on a s13 coupe? i just threw up in my my mouth a little. i agree w/ everyone else, kouki does fit best bein' that it flows with the overall shape of the car, sharp and squarish. just a my .02... __________________ zilvia is wack now...

03-09-2007, 08:49 PM	#25
TheTimanator Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 41 Posts: 2,535 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: TheTimanator Feedback Score: 1 reviews	arg...i need to stop looking at this thread. I'd really like to have a vert project. Good luck with it, even though I think the zenki S14 front end isn't going to look good.... __________________ 89 S13 hatch/////98 Subaru 2.5RS

03-09-2007, 08:57 PM	#26
John_R Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well a couple reasons and thoughts So I've been thinking about it. Everyone just seems to hate Zenkis. Its not just with the coupe. Most people just like the Kouki. Its not that I think it looks bad. But whenever I see a S13.4 Kouki, you can tell how much the fenders don't line up with the rest of the body. Even though the headlights look great, the fenders just like ass. (Its just an opinion guys!) I have both a 98 kouki and a 93 Vert, and I just can't justify putting a kouki front end on this car. Another huge reason in switching to a Zenki instead. MONEY. People are just tossing their Zenki stuff out. I can get my hands on a Zenki front end for $300-400. Opposed to a kouki that I could barely get the headlights and corner lights for that much. This vert isn't a show car, just a fun little beater. So whats it gonna hurt? Seriously, having some Zenki coupe pictures would really help, but I've only seen one. Its a funky blue one with a mismatched hood, etc. Just some thoughts! Sorry you guys hate the idea.......Maybe I'm just being stupid. At least I wanna try something new. shrugs

03-09-2007, 09:13 PM	#27
Bryants95240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: alabama Age: 36 Posts: 668 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Meh, it will look like poo imo. But its your car do want you want, i just think a s15 or kouki looks better on verts. I dont see how you can say the zenki is gonna flow with vert better than a kouki conisdering a vert is pretty squarish and zenki is round. __________________

03-10-2007, 03:15 AM	#28
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	just do it. zenki s13 vert is what i plan on doing later after my s14.3 is done. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.